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Posted: 4/18/2016 7:49:29 PM EDT
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Like anyone here would tell you to NOT get an Octane
No Form 3 drama and fees and a solid can. If one of the new wonder-cans becomes available to you, that's just gravy assuming you have the cash. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 7:59:48 PM EDT
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Back pressure
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Posted: 4/18/2016 8:09:35 PM EDT
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What AAC cans?
Tirant > Octane |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 8:10:06 PM EDT
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I use an octaNE 9 on my scorpion and it is awesome. Quiet and no issues.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 8:22:37 PM EDT
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What AAC cans? Tirant > Octane Pretty much this. I prefer my tirant over my octane. Quieter, lighter, less blowback. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 8:25:04 PM EDT
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What AAC cans? Tirant > Octane Tirant 45 and 9S. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 8:26:03 PM EDT
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I wont, I have one and am waiting on the Form 3 on my 2nd one.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 8:26:32 PM EDT
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Tirant 45 and 9S. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What AAC cans? Tirant > Octane Tirant 45 and 9S. If they're both the same price i'd buy a tirant 45 before an octane 9 Ymmv |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 9:05:56 PM EDT
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Backpressure on the Octane is a bitch. You're running PCCs, go for it! Handguns are a no go for the Octane in my book.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 9:27:48 PM EDT
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Octane9 on my mp5 reverse stretch and 9mm AR is great to shoot. Solid can for PCC. I never understood the blowback complaint when shooting my Sig P226, then I got an M&P.......and I feel the blowback.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 9:33:48 PM EDT
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I would say not at all ...
This past weekend, I had an opportunity to get together with another ARFCOMer and we played with a CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1, Sig MPX, POF MP5 and a 9mm AR along with an Octane 9 with GA 3-lug, Octane 9 with Silencerco 3-lug, Ti-Rant 9 and Mystic. We also had a bunch of different ammo from Federal AE suppressor to 124 gr subsonic loads, 147 gr sub loads made with TiteGroup and 147 gr sub loads with VV N320. The handloads chronoed around the same velocity. Honestly while there were differences with suppressors, ammunition selection made a HUGE difference in perceived volume. Even comparing the 147 gr sub loads, the N320 loads were a touch quieter than the TiteGroup loads. We experienced no noticeable blowback/gas issues with our handloads through any of the suppressors. It was an interesting experience. While we were originally there to compare the different PCCs, it became an impromptu test of different ammunition as well. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 9:35:57 PM EDT
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Octane9 on my mp5 reverse stretch and 9mm AR is great to shoot. Solid can for PCC. I never understood the blowback complaint when shooting my Sig P226, then I got an M&P.......and I feel the blowback. Use a Glock with the Octane and you'll taste the blowback.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 10:56:57 PM EDT
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Use a Glock with the Octane and you'll taste the blowback. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Octane9 on my mp5 reverse stretch and 9mm AR is great to shoot. Solid can for PCC. I never understood the blowback complaint when shooting my Sig P226, then I got an M&P.......and I feel the blowback. Use a Glock with the Octane and you'll taste the blowback. I don't know if it makes a difference that its an Octane 45, vs an Octane 9 though... |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:02:48 PM EDT
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Strange, I shoot my G17, G34 and G21 and an Octane with no issues... I don't know if it makes a difference that its an Octane 45, vs an Octane 9 though... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Octane9 on my mp5 reverse stretch and 9mm AR is great to shoot. Solid can for PCC. I never understood the blowback complaint when shooting my Sig P226, then I got an M&P.......and I feel the blowback. Use a Glock with the Octane and you'll taste the blowback. I don't know if it makes a difference that its an Octane 45, vs an Octane 9 though... Octane .45 on a G22 for me. Never again. But I really don't like suppressed handguns anyway, so it's not a big deal. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:04:37 PM EDT
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I role with a g17 and octane 9. Blowback doesn't bother me one bit, until I read about it her on ar15.com
Also shoot it with a 9mm AR 4" tros barrel. No problem there either
also shoot it with a 300 blkout handyrifle . No problem with blowback either
Also shoot it with a 300 blkout 8" AR. You can guess it - no problem with blowback
I really don't know what the world is coming to? When the octane 9 was released there were no reviews where blowback was mentioned to be a problem and now a few years later the blowback has morphed into a game changer where the can isn't even recommended because the blow back is so severe? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:12:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I role with a g17 and octane 9. Blowback doesn't bother me one bit, until I read about it her on ar15.com Also shoot it with a 9mm AR 4" tros barrel. No problem there either also shoot it with a 300 blkout handyrifle . No problem with blowback either Also shoot it with a 300 blkout 8" AR. You can guess it - no problem with blowback I really don't know what the world is coming to? When the octane 9 was released there were no reviews where blowback was mentioned to be a problem and now a few years later the blowback has morphed into a game changer where the can isn't even recommended because the blow back is so severe? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:28:35 PM EDT
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I role with a g17 and octane 9. Blowback doesn't bother me one bit, until I read about it her on ar15.com
Also shoot it with a 9mm AR 4" tros barrel. No problem there either
also shoot it with a 300 blkout handyrifle . No problem with blowback either
Also shoot it with a 300 blkout 8" AR. You can guess it - no problem with blowback
I really don't know what the world is coming to? When the octane 9 was released there were no reviews where blowback was mentioned to be a problem and now a few years later the blowback has morphed into a game changer where the can isn't even recommended because the blow back is so severe? No shit, there's no blowback on your Handi Rifle? Tell me more.
I have an Octane and the backpressure was dangerous on my Glock. Shit was flying out of the gun and hitting me in the face with enough velocity that it was really uncomfortable and distracting. Eye protection was an absolute must.
Just because you haven't had the same experience that plenty of others have had doesn't mean the "world is coming to" anything.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:02:21 AM EDT
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Reason not to get an Octane 9?
Octane 45HD. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:02:50 AM EDT
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Pretty much this. I prefer my tirant over my octane. Quieter, lighter, less blowback. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What AAC cans? Tirant > Octane Pretty much this. I prefer my tirant over my octane. Quieter, lighter, less blowback. Yeah.... I hate to admit it. The Octane was my first can, but after getting a Tirant during the crazy blowout prices, I prefer it. Noticeably quieter on my 4.5" SBR. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 9:21:13 AM EDT
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Octane 45K on my G21 produces no projectiles other than the one that is intended. Blowback is very minimal and the sound is more than acceptable for a K-can.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 3:10:16 AM EDT
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No shit, there's no blowback on your Handi Rifle? Tell me more.
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I role with a g17 and octane 9. Blowback doesn't bother me one bit, until I read about it her on ar15.com
Also shoot it with a 9mm AR 4" tros barrel. No problem there either
also shoot it with a 300 blkout handyrifle . No problem with blowback either
Also shoot it with a 300 blkout 8" AR. You can guess it - no problem with blowback
I really don't know what the world is coming to? When the octane 9 was released there were no reviews where blowback was mentioned to be a problem and now a few years later the blowback has morphed into a game changer where the can isn't even recommended because the blow back is so severe? No shit, there's no blowback on your Handi Rifle? Tell me more.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 7:10:40 AM EDT
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If the price is right, it's a solid can. It's just not the latest and greatest anymore.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 8:38:04 AM EDT
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How about this choice:
Octane 9 VS. Griffin Armament Revolution 45 for a PCC? That's my morning dilemma. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 8:41:47 AM EDT
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If it's strictly for PCC - have you considered a dedicated 3 lug subgun can? Higher volume will reduce blow back and sound signature. Highly recommend Gemtech MK9K.
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Posted: 4/20/2016 8:52:22 AM EDT
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In stock anywhere for less than $700?
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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:38:39 AM EDT
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Mmm because I got a GM45 for less than $500 but its on backorder.
I would get the octane, I wanted a octane K but they did not come with pistons at my LE dealer so I went with surefire. Now I am waiting on the fixed barrel thingy for my rifles. The good thing of the octane its proven and has accesories instead of waiting for the company to release them. |
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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:52:42 AM EDT
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How about this choice: Octane 9 VS. Griffin Armament Revolution 45 for a PCC? That's my morning dilemma. Subgun can |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 9:37:09 AM EDT
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What is a "K" can?
Thanks. I have no issues using my octane 45hd on 9mm or my glock 45s I have a griffin rev9 on order but after a month or more there are none in stock at SS so I think I will switch to a tirant 45 based on articles I've read. |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 9:40:25 AM EDT
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What is a "K" can? Thanks. I have no issues using my octane 45hd on 9mm or my glock 45s I have a griffin rev9 on order but after a month or more there are none in stock at SS so I think I will switch to a tirant 45 based on articles I've read. K stands for Kurz in German which means 'short'. So a short can or MP5K (short MP5). |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 10:17:07 AM EDT
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Thanks.
Probably not as quiet, too, right? |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 10:38:00 AM EDT
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Thanks. Probably not as quiet, too, right? Correct |
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Posted: 4/21/2016 12:53:25 PM EDT
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No blowback issues with my Oct 9 when using either a Scorpion or G19. Can is very quiet with the Scorpion and 147gr bullets.
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Posted: 4/21/2016 1:11:20 PM EDT
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Octane 9 isnt horrible. If you bought one, nobody would make fun of you. There are newer, improved options. If you like it and the price is right, go for it.
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Posted: 5/2/2016 9:27:01 PM EDT
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Well I went a different direction entirely and bought a Surefire Ryder 9mm.
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Posted: 5/2/2016 9:41:03 PM EDT
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Well I went a different direction entirely and bought a Surefire Ryder 9mm. <a href="http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Ozman2/media/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/Ozman2/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg</a> With no aftermarket support? I do like the color though |
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Posted: 5/2/2016 11:02:32 PM EDT
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Slick looking can for sure.
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Posted: 5/2/2016 11:25:20 PM EDT
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Well I went a different direction entirely and bought a Surefire Ryder 9mm. <a href="http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Ozman2/media/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/Ozman2/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg</a> With no aftermarket support? I do like the color though The Surefire certainly is an interesting choice for a PCC can. I don't think it would be my first pick for the application, but it'll probably get the job done. Since you're going to have more complete powder burn in a longer PCC barrel, I'd rather have a short (and potentially, but not necessarily fatter) can for use on something like a Scorpion EVO. I'd also prioritize 3-lug compatibility, which is coming in a future (but different) Ryder. The slim Ryder is better for pistols where it offers less sight obstruction and is lighter than most other full-length 9mm suppressors. |
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Posted: 5/2/2016 11:31:53 PM EDT
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The Surefire certainly is an interesting choice for a PCC can. I don't think it would be my first pick for the application, but it'll probably get the job done. Since you're going to have more complete powder burn in a longer PCC barrel, I'd rather have a short (and potentially, but not necessarily fatter) can for use on something like a Scorpion EVO. I'd also prioritize 3-lug compatibility, which is coming in a future (but different) Ryder. The slim Ryder is better for pistols where it offers less sight obstruction and is lighter than most other full-length 9mm suppressors. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well I went a different direction entirely and bought a Surefire Ryder 9mm. <a href="http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Ozman2/media/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/Ozman2/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg</a> With no aftermarket support? I do like the color though The Surefire certainly is an interesting choice for a PCC can. I don't think it would be my first pick for the application, but it'll probably get the job done. Since you're going to have more complete powder burn in a longer PCC barrel, I'd rather have a short (and potentially, but not necessarily fatter) can for use on something like a Scorpion EVO. I'd also prioritize 3-lug compatibility, which is coming in a future (but different) Ryder. The slim Ryder is better for pistols where it offers less sight obstruction and is lighter than most other full-length 9mm suppressors. I understand its not really Ideal for a PCC but I decided to get something a little more pistol friendly as well, also I was very impressed by the construction of the Surefire and I got a decent deal on it. I may still buy the Octane but I felt this one needed to come home with me. |
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Posted: 5/2/2016 11:37:26 PM EDT
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I understand its not really Ideal for a PCC but I decided to get something a little more pistol friendly as well, also I was very impressed by the construction of the Surefire and I got a decent deal on it. I may still buy the Octane but I felt this one needed to come home with me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well I went a different direction entirely and bought a Surefire Ryder 9mm. <a href="http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Ozman2/media/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h103/Ozman2/FE749FFF-1EDB-4A6E-A849-0F25BCCFF01E_zps2lujjw71.jpg</a> With no aftermarket support? I do like the color though The Surefire certainly is an interesting choice for a PCC can. I don't think it would be my first pick for the application, but it'll probably get the job done. Since you're going to have more complete powder burn in a longer PCC barrel, I'd rather have a short (and potentially, but not necessarily fatter) can for use on something like a Scorpion EVO. I'd also prioritize 3-lug compatibility, which is coming in a future (but different) Ryder. The slim Ryder is better for pistols where it offers less sight obstruction and is lighter than most other full-length 9mm suppressors. I understand its not really Ideal for a PCC but I decided to get something a little more pistol friendly as well, also I was very impressed by the construction of the Surefire and I got a decent deal on it. I may still buy the Octane but I felt this one needed to come home with me. It sounds like your head is in the right place then. I like the design of the Ryder (though I have yet to try one) for a dedicated pistol can. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 9:17:25 AM EDT
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If the price is right, it's a solid can. It's just not the latest and greatest anymore. This is how i would approach it. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 1:55:59 PM EDT
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I was an early adopter of the Octane 9. I got the first model, then sent it back to have it updated to HD2 specs with the CTA baffles. I have shot the piss out of this thing. Over the years it's gotten plenty of mileage on my MP5, SIG P239, Glock 19 and Browning Buckmark .22lr.
In my experience, most problems with blowback/backpressure are related to ammo, or more specifically, powder types. Your cheap 147 grain fodder from your favorite mass manufacturer is likely to sandblast your face when fired from a pistol. I had the worst luck with American Eagle, in fact that stuff caused me issues with all of my 9mm hosts. I decided that I was tired of being held hostage by the availability of 9mm subs, so I started reloading my own. I control the bullet profile, powder type, etc. I also load it for roughly half the cost of factory subs. I shot a ton of 9mm each year, so for me it is very much worth the time and effort reloading subsonic loads. The Octane is a super tough can. I like that I can throw the whole baffle stack and any other steel parts into an ultrasonic cleaner and emerge with a fresh, clean can within a short period of time. I like that it was always available with all the pistons and mounts I needed, whereas other manufacturers made us wait for YEARS just to produce a 3-lug mount. The Octane is backed by one of the best companies in the business and their Customer Service is impeccable. Clearly, there are many new cans that borrow heavily from the Octane HD design. Some might meter a little better, and some might even have a little less blowback, but I'd have no qualms about buying an Octane given the robustness of the design and the business ethics of its manufacturer. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 2:24:27 PM EDT
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In my experience, most problems with blowback/backpressure are related to ammo, or more specifically, powder types. Your cheap 147 grain fodder from your favorite mass manufacturer is likely to sandblast your face when fired from a pistol. I had the worst luck with American Eagle, in fact that stuff caused me issues with all of my 9mm hosts. I decided that I was tired of being held hostage by the availability of 9mm subs, so I started reloading my own. I control the bullet profile, powder type, etc. I also load it for roughly half the cost of factory subs. I shot a ton of 9mm each year, so for me it is very much worth the time and effort reloading subsonic loads. I have come to this conclusion too. My pet 147 sub loads were done using Titegroup and I recently had a chance to shoot some 147s loaded with VV N320. Not a huge difference but it was noticeable and both loads were chronoing at around 950 fps. It was enough of a difference than I'm definitely going to get some N320 and try it out myself for some more controlled testing. |
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Posted: 5/3/2016 8:01:31 PM EDT
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Octane9 on my mp5 reverse stretch and 9mm AR is great to shoot. Solid can for PCC. I never understood the blowback complaint when shooting my Sig P226, then I got an M&P.......and I feel the blowback. Use a Glock with the Octane and you'll taste the blowback. Got my Octane 2 months ago and yet have to try it out on my S.Co barreled G-17. Mmmmm sweet blowback, can't wait to taste it 
ETA: My Octane and SpecWar are my first cans, I'm just psyched to have them. Blowback be damned. |
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