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Posted: 12/2/2015 12:06:49 AM EDT
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Is that 124 a dry db rating? That is huge! What about wet rating? Just bought a 9s that is on a form 3 I may not keep it and just sell it and buy this....
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Posted: 12/2/2015 12:38:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it adds 1.5, that would make it identical to the length of the 3 lug configured Optimus can which also metered ~125 with 147 subsonic on an MP5 and is user servicable and full 17-4 in that configuration. The SICO product would be lighter for about 10,000 rounds until it picked up enough lead to be identical in weight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting. The 3-lug mount looks like it adds 1.5", so it's not really that short as a 3-lug can. If it adds 1.5, that would make it identical to the length of the 3 lug configured Optimus can which also metered ~125 with 147 subsonic on an MP5 and is user servicable and full 17-4 in that configuration. The SICO product would be lighter for about 10,000 rounds until it picked up enough lead to be identical in weight. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 1:07:30 AM EDT
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It's a fully welded tubeless design so it will be GTG on super BLK. This was my thought, it's built like sigs rifle cans so I can't imagine why it couldn't do supers. It's now on my short list. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 7:32:20 AM EDT
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So they're different... Fortunately yes. It would be hard to sell a sealed pistol can on the current market. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 11:22:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fortunately yes. It would be hard to sell a sealed pistol can on the current market. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So they're different... Fortunately yes. It would be hard to sell a sealed pistol can on the current market. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 1:18:04 PM EDT
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User serviceable pistol cans are highly overrated unless youre shooting cast. Especially with this thing being rifle rated I dont see it being a problem.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 3:14:50 PM EDT
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For size comparisons...
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Posted: 12/2/2015 3:56:21 PM EDT
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:50:56 PM EDT
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So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Yeah... I was just thinking about that.... Link: http://www.griffinarmament.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=REVQDK 
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Posted: 12/2/2015 7:10:02 PM EDT
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So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 7:43:44 PM EDT
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Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. Any "cheap" sources for a GA 3 lug? |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 7:49:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26:  I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 8:16:19 PM EDT
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Can't remember that you can use one mount from one company on the other company's can, but not the other way around...
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Posted: 12/2/2015 9:11:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't remember that you can use one mount from one company on the other company's can, but not the other way around... You can use Silencerco's Octane/Osprey pistons in GA's Revolution. The opposite does not work. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:57:47 AM EDT
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If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. That's awesome, I can see a need for one of these. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 3:31:55 AM EDT
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If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. Agreed. I just found some of the language strange that there "would be pistons available" or whatever it was they said. It makes me wonder if there won't be 100% compatibility across the board, but it wouldn't make sense. Not a big fan of a sealed pistol can, but a shorter, larger diameter 9mm can sounds awesome for subgun stuff. |
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Posted: 12/4/2015 12:02:43 AM EDT
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Any idea if the end cap can be removed/replaced in case of strike?
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Posted: 12/5/2015 7:07:35 PM EDT
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When is the expected general release?
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Posted: 12/5/2015 7:59:40 PM EDT
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When is the expected general release? Shipping to dealers right after shot show is what I was told by SiCo this past week. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 10:19:15 AM EDT
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What are wet figures?
Thinking of just keeping the Tirant 9s on form 3 and getting both. Love these numbers. |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 3:09:25 PM EDT
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Shipping to dealers right after shot show is what I was told by SiCo this past week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When is the expected general release? Shipping to dealers right after shot show is what I was told by SiCo this past week. Darn was hoping to get one of these before the possible 41P implementation :( |
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Posted: 12/6/2015 4:07:09 PM EDT
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Shipping to dealers right after shot show is what I was told by SiCo this past week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When is the expected general release? Shipping to dealers right after shot show is what I was told by SiCo this past week. Does that mean they will be ready to be Form 3'd shortly after shot show or does that mean the dealers still are waiting to have them transferred? |
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Posted: 12/11/2015 2:09:27 PM EDT
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If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: Nice looking setup for my XDm 9mm 3.8 Compact in 2016! https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: Nice looking setup for my XDm 9mm 3.8 Compact in 2016! https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount.
That will be a nice looking setup for my XDm 9mm 3.8 compact in 2016. |
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Posted: 12/11/2015 9:09:51 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg That will be a nice looking setup for my XDm 9mm 3.8 compact in 2016. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For size comparisons... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-etU6TDtn0LE/Vl9CsRw-e_I/AAAAAAAAuf8/PXnBlvTrXR4/s800-Ic42/Omega_9k_9s_Octane.jpg So if you drop a GA 3-lug adapter in there, then it becomes about as short as a TiRant9s? Assuming the GA 3-lug works. I'm betting it will, but there's no way to be sure yet. If you look at the picture from Izhevsk54r's post, you can see it's attached to a G26: Nice looking setup for my XDm 9mm 3.8 Compact in 2016! https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it probably uses Octane pistons, so there should be enough depth to accept a GA 3-lug mount. https://i.imgur.com/DRvc3YCl.jpg That will be a nice looking setup for my XDm 9mm 3.8 compact in 2016. I want one for my full size mp5 clone 
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Posted: 12/12/2015 11:33:51 PM EDT
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Any guess how much length the ASR mount will add to that 4.7" length?
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Posted: 12/13/2015 12:18:15 PM EDT
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Any guess how much length the ASR mount will add to that 4.7" length? Zero....looks like it will only take Octane mounts. |
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Posted: 12/13/2015 12:26:29 PM EDT
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Zero....looks like it will only take Octane mounts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any guess how much length the ASR mount will add to that 4.7" length? Zero....looks like it will only take Octane mounts. Which makes it retarded to name this the Omega 9K. Imagine how many people are going to be confused about this. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 1:28:52 PM EDT
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Yeah....when I saw Omega, I thought its compatible with the Omega mounts..but thats not the case.
So...anyone concerned about filling up the can? Seems like this was built primarily as a rifle can...which are mostly sealed...rather than a user serviceable pistol can. However, the size and compatibility with Octane/Osprey Piston/Mounts is pretty compelling. I dont have a good photo editing program..but I wanted to see what the GA 3-Lug mount looked like on the Omega 9k....size is also very very compelling....hmmmm..... 
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Posted: 1/1/2016 3:43:46 AM EDT
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How is it that much quiter than the 9s? My plan is use as a thread on pistol can for full size semi auto.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 9:47:16 AM EDT
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Volume?
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:26:25 PM EDT
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Really seems like a nominal amount of volume for almost 20db dry difference. Is the baffle design that much better/more effective?
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:38:49 PM EDT
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Really seems like a nominal amount of volume for almost 20db dry difference. Is the baffle design that much better/more effective? Marketing 101, I take manufacturers db reduction numbers with a grain of salt. Wait for the independent testing for a better idea. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 6:57:00 PM EDT
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It does look like capital armory changed the db rating from 124 to 131 which seems a little bit more realistic.
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Posted: 1/2/2016 10:05:02 AM EDT
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Per SilencerCo:
124.9 dB on the Dakota Tactical MP5 clone. 131.5 dB on a CZ Scorpion 9mm (147gr. AE) 133.7 dB on a Noveske 16" .300 BLK (SUBSONIC, 220gr. SCO) 138.4 dB on a Noveske 16" .300 BLK (SUPERSONIC, 110gr. VMAX) |
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Posted: 1/2/2016 1:29:50 PM EDT
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Really seems like a nominal amount of volume for almost 20db dry difference. Is the baffle design that much better/more effective? I see a big difference in the above pic. Look at the 2 cans in the middle. The 3 lug is taking up the rear quarter of that 9s and the 9k is larger diameter too. Looks like a large volume difference to me. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 10:47:00 AM EDT
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Any news on this after the New Year? I still don't see it on the Silencerco web site.
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Posted: 1/3/2016 12:09:40 PM EDT
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Any news on this after the New Year? I still don't see it on the Silencerco web site. Likely won't see much else until Shot Show |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 12:32:47 PM EDT
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Any news on this after the New Year? I still don't see it on the Silencerco web site. What do you want to know? |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 12:34:51 PM EDT
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Per SilencerCo: 124.9 dB on the Dakota Tactical MP5 clone. 131.5 dB on a CZ Scorpion 9mm (147gr. AE) 133.7 dB on a Noveske 16" .300 BLK (SUBSONIC, 220gr. SCO) 138.4 dB on a Noveske 16" .300 BLK (SUPERSONIC, 110gr. VMAX) Would a full size 9mm like a g17 be higher or lower ? |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 12:45:05 PM EDT
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Any news on this after the New Year? I still don't see it on the Silencerco web site. What do you want to know? Just the guys I needed to hear from. Just wondering if there are any updates on the omega9ks release date and if they have mentioned exoa ding this line to 40 & 45. Any ideas when you guys will have one in? |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 1:06:15 PM EDT
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Just the guys I needed to hear from. Just wondering if there are any updates on the omega9ks release date and if they have mentioned exoa ding this line to 40 & 45. Any ideas when you guys will have one in? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any news on this after the New Year? I still don't see it on the Silencerco web site. What do you want to know? Just the guys I needed to hear from. Just wondering if there are any updates on the omega9ks release date and if they have mentioned exoa ding this line to 40 & 45. Any ideas when you guys will have one in? No official ship date yet and no mention of a 40 or 45 version. I imagine they'll start shipping in the next couple of weeks to distributors, in dealers hands February or March, Capitol Armory may have them a little sooner. Just a guess on my part though. What I do know, it comes with a 5/8x24 direct thread mount, no piston. Uses Osprey/Octane accessories. Full auto rated > 8" barrel for 300BLK supersonic. 4.7" long, 1.475" diameter and 8.8 oz with direct thread. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 1:11:52 PM EDT
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No official ship date yet and no mention of a 40 or 45 version. I imagine they'll start shipping in the next couple of weeks to distributors, in dealers hands February or March, Capitol Armory may have them a little sooner. Just a guess on my part though. What I do know, it comes with a 5/8x24 direct thread mount, no piston. Uses Osprey/Octane accessories. Full auto rated > 8" barrel for 300BLK supersonic. 4.7" long, 1.475" diameter and 8.8 oz with direct thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any news on this after the New Year? I still don't see it on the Silencerco web site. What do you want to know? Just the guys I needed to hear from. Just wondering if there are any updates on the omega9ks release date and if they have mentioned exoa ding this line to 40 & 45. Any ideas when you guys will have one in? No official ship date yet and no mention of a 40 or 45 version. I imagine they'll start shipping in the next couple of weeks to distributors, in dealers hands February or March, Capitol Armory may have them a little sooner. Just a guess on my part though. What I do know, it comes with a 5/8x24 direct thread mount, no piston. Uses Osprey/Octane accessories. Full auto rated > 8" barrel for 300BLK supersonic. 4.7" long, 1.475" diameter and 8.8 oz with direct thread. replaceable end cap in case of strike or fully welded? |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 1:34:53 PM EDT
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replaceable end cap in case of strike or fully welded? Fully welded. 
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Posted: 1/3/2016 1:37:52 PM EDT
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Fully welded. http://hansohnbrothers.com/image/cache/data/Silencers/SilencerCo/omega9k_2-1000x1000.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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replaceable end cap in case of strike or fully welded? Fully welded. http://hansohnbrothers.com/image/cache/data/Silencers/SilencerCo/omega9k_2-1000x1000.jpg Thank you. Also, any idea why 5/8x24 for the DT mount? Surprised it isn't 1/2x28 or 1/2x36. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 2:11:18 PM EDT
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Thank you. Also, any idea why 5/8x24 for the DT mount? Surprised it isn't 1/2x28 or 1/2x36. I suspect there are more 300 BLK SBRs than sub-guns or 9mm SBRs in use. Based on my own sales, I move a lot more 5/8x24 DT than 1/2x36 DT mounts. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 2:39:30 PM EDT
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I suspect there are more 300 BLK SBRs than sub-guns or 9mm SBRs in use. Based on my own sales, I move a lot more 5/8x24 DT than 1/2x36 DT mounts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you. Also, any idea why 5/8x24 for the DT mount? Surprised it isn't 1/2x28 or 1/2x36. I suspect there are more 300 BLK SBRs than sub-guns or 9mm SBRs in use. Based on my own sales, I move a lot more 5/8x24 DT than 1/2x36 DT mounts. That surprised me given the rise in the mpx, cz Evo and mp5 clone variants. Thanks for the insight. I'm interested in the 9k for a reverse stretch mp5 to use the spare 3lug mount I have. I hope these retail similar to the new 45/9 modular offerings from other companies ($655 and under) |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 2:43:52 PM EDT
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I'll have hi-res pics on my FB ad IG accounts VERY soon as well as a full review...I'm not at liberty to say a date at the moment but when I say soon just know......soon lol. Keep an eye out fellas!
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Posted: 1/3/2016 2:50:35 PM EDT
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I hope these retail similar to the new 45/9 modular offerings from other companies ($655 and under) Around $635 with mount I think. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 8:08:02 PM EDT
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I hope these retail similar to the new 45/9 modular offerings from other companies ($655 and under) I guess I'm indifferent. You want it priced around modular cans but the Omega 9 has zero features compared to modular cans? Quoted:
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Posted: 1/3/2016 9:27:49 PM EDT
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I guess I'm indifferent. You want it priced around modular cans but the Omega 9 has zero features compared to modular cans? For a couple more dollars I can have a GA Revolution 9 that can be around the size of Omega 9 and be taken apart? Huh I guess I'm praying devils advocate here.
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I hope these retail similar to the new 45/9 modular offerings from other companies ($655 and under) I guess I'm indifferent. You want it priced around modular cans but the Omega 9 has zero features compared to modular cans? Quoted:
Around $635 with mount I think. For a couple more dollars I can have a GA Revolution 9 that can be around the size of Omega 9 and be taken apart? Huh I guess I'm praying devils advocate here.
It would be awesome if it was $400 or less but I dont expect that especially for a new product from a large company in this industry. Its a niche can in my opinion but not everyone wants a modular can. |
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