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Posted: 11/29/2015 7:32:01 PM EDT
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The Saker is finished in black oxide - try re-oiling it with some CLP and see if it returns to the original color.
Is it copper streaking? Does it look like bullet strikes or ??? Pictures would help. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 7:42:36 PM EDT
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My saker did the same thing. I took it off while it was really hot.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 8:05:40 PM EDT
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The Saker is finished in black oxide - try re-oiling it with some CLP and see if it returns to the original color. Is it copper streaking? Does it look like bullet strikes or ??? Pictures would help. the copper color is on the OUTSIDE of the flash hider, not on the inside, no bullet strikes. i did wipe it down with rem oil like it says in the instructions, but it did nothing. ill try to post some pics, but i have to dig up my photo bucket account, because posting a pic directly to the forum like every other forum isnt a thing here |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 8:06:19 PM EDT
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My saker did the same thing. I took it off while it was really hot. did you talk to silencer co? or just leave it be? |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 8:30:41 PM EDT
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ill try to post some pics, but i have to dig up my photo bucket account, because posting a pic directly to the forum like every other forum isnt a thing here You can also use postimage.org if you want to post without an account. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 8:39:59 PM EDT
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ill try to post some pics, but i have to dig up my photo bucket account, because posting a pic directly to the forum like every other forum isnt a thing here You can also use postimage.org if you want to post without an account. Or Flickr or Imgur. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 9:39:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2015 9:55:40 PM EDT
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It's a silencerco issue, my nephews new specwar did the exact same thing and they refinished it for him.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:08:08 PM EDT
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Wow, it didn't sound like an issue to me until I saw the pics. From an aesthetic standpoint, I would be completely fine with that. But it would make me worry about the flash hider or the can corroding without a protective finish on them. Just email SilencerCo about it and see if they think it'll be an issue. If it's just aesthetics, I would leave it alone.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:12:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:15:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGood idea. 
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:18:21 PM EDT
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My saker did the same thing. I took it off while it was really hot. did you talk to silencer co? or just leave it be? I just left it. I bought some hi temp black spray paint but never used it. Edit: I just saw you picture....mine looks exactly like that. When I took mine off, it was really hot and I used a oven mit. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:32:21 PM EDT
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Is the saker K rated to 7.5"?
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:37:53 PM EDT
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Is the saker K rated to 7.5"? Down to 7" in 5.56 Eta: my saker 762 looks the same, I always figured it was from my SS potholder. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:45:54 PM EDT
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That looks like my Saker 762 after my first 5 min of shooting. It's a SICO problem. Not a big deal IMO. I recoated mine recently with VHT high temp spray paint. Works great and looks good.
This only happenes when shooting 556. My Omega and Harvester look brand new (except for a few scratches) and not one 556 has been through them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 10:53:29 PM EDT
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The copper on your flash hider is from the copper of the bullet being heated and sprayed with the hot gasses.
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Posted: 11/29/2015 11:50:48 PM EDT
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The copper on your flash hider is from the copper of the bullet being heated and sprayed with the hot gasses. i used some remington, copper/fouler remover and a copper bristled brush, couldnt get it off, that color of the flash hider is after a scrub down, flash hider dis coloring doesnt bother me, i knwo that the shoulder that the suppressor mounts to will wear off eventually, ive seen alot fo them like that, was just wondering if it was normal |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 11:55:45 PM EDT
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Wow, it didn't sound like an issue to me until I saw the pics. From an aesthetic standpoint, I would be completely fine with that. But it would make me worry about the flash hider or the can corroding without a protective finish on them. Just email SilencerCo about it and see if they think it'll be an issue. If it's just aesthetics, I would leave it alone. the flash hider doesnt bother me too much, a guy from a different reply said why it happens. both my rifles and my friends a2 birdcage have the copper color on them. my concern was the can, as i dont want it it to get all rusted up, its winter here and will be for a while, i dont want to have to worry about shooting it in the cold, but for the 1000$ i have into it, i would like to see a higher quality coating |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 11:57:12 PM EDT
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My saker did the same thing. I took it off while it was really hot. Did the exact same thing like a dumbass on my SPECWAR |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 12:26:45 AM EDT
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My saker did the same thing. I took it off while it was really hot. Did the exact same thing like a dumbass on my SPECWAR yeah, but the IMO the coating shouldnt come off when its hot like that. my friend took his off and the finish on his looks fine. and when i did mine it was about 15F out, no one wants to sit at the range for an hour waiting for their suppressor to cool off, when i got home about 2 hours later it was still warm. however in the big picture the coating is at the bottom of the big deal scale |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 3:05:31 AM EDT
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The flash suppressor is going to get coated with copper vaporized and deposited from the bullet jackets of the bullets fired because it is inside the blast chamber of the sound suppressor. There is nothing that can prevent that. By the time you get the copper off, you will probably mechanically remove the finish underneath or deposit something like stainless steel from a wire brush or brass from a brass brush over the top of it, or in its place. The brass brush is probably what you are looking at here. If you want to return it to black, you could temporarily do that by putting the can on and firing a 30 round magazine.
It's important to have realistic expectations. If you want the finish to always be perfect, the best way to do that is not to fire the rifle. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 3:30:24 AM EDT
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The flash suppressor is going to get coated with copper vaporized and deposited from the bullet jackets of the bullets fired because it is inside the blast chamber of the sound suppressor. There is nothing that can prevent that. By the time you get the copper off, you will probably mechanically remove the finish underneath or deposit something like stainless steel from a wire brush or brass from a brass brush over the top of it, or in its place. The brass brush is probably what you are looking at here. If you want to return it to black, you could temporarily do that by putting the can on and firing a 30 round magazine. It's important to have realistic expectations. If you want the finish to always be perfect, the best way to do that is not to fire the rifle. I agree, as i said before the flash hider doesnt bother me, and from everything everyone is saying. the flash hider is normal. as for the coating on the can itself, i was concerned because im 150 rds in, and my friends griffin armament recce 7 has an almost perfect finish and more rounds thru it |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 3:39:33 AM EDT
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also edit, my friend has the griffin M4SD2
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:11:07 AM EDT
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Oh I agree the black oxide doesn't look good. It doesn't really look very good when it is brand new though either. There does seem to be something going on with the black oxide.
I wonder what temperature the black oxide is rated to. Sometimes the finishes have a temperature at which they are damaged. Looking around I saw 900F cited as a temp at which black oxide would begin to fade. Maybe it reached that temperature? 150rds could easily do that depending on the fire schedule. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:25:10 AM EDT
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Maybe? I did do a couple of rapid fires, but no mag dumps or anything, id imagine my 7.5" heats that thing up real quick. I sent them an email, so we will see that they say, my main concern is rust, otherwise the supressor does everything i was expecting. It was about 15 degrees out when i was shooting it, so maybe has something to do with a sudden heating from a cold temp? Then cooling fast? Maybe me swapping it cause the issue.
Either way im curious to see what they say |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 11:11:01 AM EDT
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt?
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Posted: 11/30/2015 1:45:01 PM EDT
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Maybe? I did do a couple of rapid fires, but no mag dumps or anything, id imagine my 7.5" heats that thing up real quick. I sent them an email, so we will see that they say, my main concern is rust, otherwise the supressor does everything i was expecting. It was about 15 degrees out when i was shooting it, so maybe has something to do with a sudden heating from a cold temp? Then cooling fast? Maybe me swapping it cause the issue. Either way im curious to see what they say It's made of stainless and Stellite so I wouldn't be concerned about rust. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 2:39:04 PM EDT
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt? I did use that. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 2:47:59 PM EDT
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It looks purely cosmetic in my opinion. It does look like it was grabbed with something while very hot. Normal discoloration from heat doesn't look like that, it usually has a band around the middle of the suppressor. I'm sure SiCo would refinish it for you though.
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Posted: 11/30/2015 2:56:40 PM EDT
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt? I did use that. My experience is that the Silencer Shop oven mitt will leave silver residue on a hot suppressor. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 3:11:27 PM EDT
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt? I did use that. This is what discolored it. It leaves behind a silvery residue on a hot suppressor. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 3:25:38 PM EDT
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt? I did use that. My experience is that the Silencer Shop oven mitt will leave silver residue on a hot suppressor. I've experienced the same thing. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 4:00:40 PM EDT
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Is there a way to get the silver stuff left from the silencer shop mit off? I've experienced the same thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt? I did use that. My experience is that the Silencer Shop oven mitt will leave silver residue on a hot suppressor. Is there a way to get the silver stuff left from the silencer shop mit off? I've experienced the same thing. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 4:01:22 PM EDT
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It's made of stainless and Stellite so I wouldn't be concerned about rust. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe? I did do a couple of rapid fires, but no mag dumps or anything, id imagine my 7.5" heats that thing up real quick. I sent them an email, so we will see that they say, my main concern is rust, otherwise the supressor does everything i was expecting. It was about 15 degrees out when i was shooting it, so maybe has something to do with a sudden heating from a cold temp? Then cooling fast? Maybe me swapping it cause the issue. Either way im curious to see what they say It's made of stainless and Stellite so I wouldn't be concerned about rust. I didnt even think of that |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 6:26:58 PM EDT
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Did you by chance use a SilencerShop oven mitt? I did use that. My experience is that the Silencer Shop oven mitt will leave silver residue on a hot suppressor. Is there a way to get the silver stuff left from the silencer shop mit off? I've experienced the same thing. Keep shooting it or wipe it down. IMO, the silvery finish looks better than the black oxide. |
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Posted: 11/30/2015 10:43:30 PM EDT
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talked to silencer co, showed them the pictures, first thing they asked "did you use the mitt from silencer shop" so thats the deal, said to soak it in clp over night and get a brass bristled brush
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