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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:18:26 AM EDT
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I'm assuming I need a longer barrel or shorter handguard to make an AEM5 work on this gun?
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:23:45 AM EDT
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Pushing to the page 23:
Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ 
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/0fea47a9a86115b86ecf317474e8314c_zpscdgclxzw.jpg |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:28:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
Pushing to the page 23: Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/0fea47a9a86115b86ecf317474e8314c_zpscdgclxzw.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
Pushing to the page 23: Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/0fea47a9a86115b86ecf317474e8314c_zpscdgclxzw.jpg Originally Posted By goloud:
Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/0fea47a9a86115b86ecf317474e8314c_zpscdgclxzw.jpg That was a fantastic article man! I really enjoyed reading it. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:50:07 AM EDT
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Enjoyed the article. Thanks for posting.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:22:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LowplainsWindage]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
I'm assuming I need a longer barrel or shorter handguard to make an AEM5 work on this gun? http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/f8d322edefa4485d86db5c48a491bbe9_zpsbac3s8kx.jpg If you throw a handguard on there with a larger ID (PRI Gen III rifle length), that barrel will work. Just need the M4/AEM5 collar and the brake. Excellent article BTW!! Made my Monday morning suck way less 
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:26:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: I'm assuming I need a longer barrel or shorter handguard to make an AEM5 work on this gun? http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/f8d322edefa4485d86db5c48a491bbe9_zpsbac3s8kx.jpg Longer barrel or shorter handguard or see if Ron will make you a thread extension collar |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 10:48:52 AM EDT
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Thanks guys.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2016 12:08:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
I'm assuming I need a longer barrel or shorter handguard to make an AEM5 work on this gun? http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/f8d322edefa4485d86db5c48a491bbe9_zpsbac3s8kx.jpg Starting with a bare barrel(like in the picture), put on the crush washer and brake(just hand tight). Now measure from the front edge of the brake thread where the thread stops and the port starts, to the first rearward obstruction(in this case the hand guard). An AEM5 suppressor installed will come back over the barrel approx 2.620", and an M4 suppressor (AEM4, 4, or 2) will come back over the barrel approx. 2.17". The collar is 1" in diameter behind the suppressor and will usually go under most hand guards. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 12:14:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: Thanks guys. What length barrel and what length handguard? 16" barrel with 13" SMR   |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 1:06:05 PM EDT
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17.3" MicroMOA barrel and 15" Geissele MK4.
I may just break down and build another rifle. 
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
What length barrel and what length handguard? 16" barrel with 13" SMR <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg</a> Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By goloud:
Thanks guys. What length barrel and what length handguard? 16" barrel with 13" SMR <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173814_zpsq3izkh0i.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/20151013_173512_zpssg73hcdb.jpg</a> |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 1:07:13 PM EDT
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Thanks Ron. I'll get some better measurements.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
Starting with a bare barrel(like in the picture), put on the crush washer and brake(just hand tight). Now measure from the front edge of the brake thread where the thread stops and the port starts, to the first rearward obstruction(in this case the hand guard). An AEM5 suppressor installed will come back over the barrel approx 2.620", and an M4 suppressor (AEM4, 4, or 2) will come back over the barrel approx. 2.17". The collar is 1" in diameter behind the suppressor and will usually go under most hand guards. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By goloud:
I'm assuming I need a longer barrel or shorter handguard to make an AEM5 work on this gun? http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/f8d322edefa4485d86db5c48a491bbe9_zpsbac3s8kx.jpg Starting with a bare barrel(like in the picture), put on the crush washer and brake(just hand tight). Now measure from the front edge of the brake thread where the thread stops and the port starts, to the first rearward obstruction(in this case the hand guard). An AEM5 suppressor installed will come back over the barrel approx 2.620", and an M4 suppressor (AEM4, 4, or 2) will come back over the barrel approx. 2.17". The collar is 1" in diameter behind the suppressor and will usually go under most hand guards. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 3:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/0fea47a9a86115b86ecf317474e8314c_zpscdgclxzw.jpg That was a masterpiece, Pete. Great job and very informative. I hope Ron gets flooded with orders from it 
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Posted: 7/11/2016 3:21:24 PM EDT
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Thanks brother. I'm happy with how it turned out. Ron is awesome to talk with. There was more that could have been discussed, but I left it up to him about what to share with the world.
It's his business after all. I'm just a moonlighting writer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
That was a masterpiece, Pete. Great job and very informative. I hope Ron gets flooded with orders from it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By goloud:
Allen Engineering And The Silencer For The MK12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/07/11/allen-engineering/ http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/0fea47a9a86115b86ecf317474e8314c_zpscdgclxzw.jpg That was a masterpiece, Pete. Great job and very informative. I hope Ron gets flooded with orders from it |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:46:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spunk]
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By goloud:
Thanks guys. What length barrel and what length handguard? 16" barrel with 13" SMR Edit for quote fail. Did you need a special collar for that to fit? Assuming it's an AEM5 or 12th. I'm trying to get the same setup to play nice. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2016 5:07:46 PM EDT
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Big thanks to Ron and the folks at Oakland Tactical, form 4 out in the mail today. Great communication on both ends.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:05:10 PM EDT
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So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question.
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USA
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. The M4 collar should work with that length barrel if you shave the bayo lug. The only concern I would have is where the front end of the FSP rail will be in relation to the FSB and M4 collar. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
The M4 collar should work with that length barrel if you shave the bayo lug. The only concern I would have is where the front end of the FSP rail will be in relation to the FSB and M4 collar. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. The M4 collar should work with that length barrel if you shave the bayo lug. The only concern I would have is where the front end of the FSP rail will be in relation to the FSB and M4 collar. Thanks for the reply JAR-SPR, I'm actually cutting a KAC FF RAS to fit so i'll be able to fit the rail to the proper length, I appreciate the response I've been losing sleep trying to figure this all out in my head |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 2:03:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" 12.12" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. 
Edited to correct length, I was off .25" in my measurement. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 2:43:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HAMMERF0RGED]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png sh**....I might just order it and see what happens, the collar is only $25 dollars if i need to buy the extender after its not a huge loss. I wonder if I could just shave .3 off the back of the collar...hmm... |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 3:10:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
sh**....I might just order it and see what happens, the collar is only $25 dollars if i need to buy the extender after its not a huge loss. I wonder if I could just shave .3 off the back of the collar...hmm... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png sh**....I might just order it and see what happens, the collar is only $25 dollars if i need to buy the extender after its not a huge loss. I wonder if I could just shave .3 off the back of the collar...hmm... You could cut off about .35", the only thing is that the set screw is in the flared part. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 12:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png enough room. Just need to remove the bayonet lug. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2016 1:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
enough room. Just need to remove the bayonet lug. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png enough room. Just need to remove the bayonet lug. So I wouldn't need the collar extender just the M4 mount? only reason I was concerned is because I found this picture on instagram and seemed like the collar extender butted up to the FSB so I figured a m4 adapter wouldn't work 
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Posted: 7/28/2016 1:30:39 PM EDT
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I just found this thread. My AE30 on Rem 700 308. Barrel work done by ADCO:
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Posted: 7/28/2016 1:38:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
[#25]
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
Originally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png enough room. Just need to remove the bayonet lug. So I wouldn't need the collar extender just the M4 mount? only reason I was concerned is because I found this picture on instagram and seemed like the collar extender butted up to the FSB so I figured a m4 adapter wouldn't work http://i.imgur.com/OuJs7RQ.png You can trust my dimensions. If I were you, I would get the barrel you want and go from there. The step down could be anywhere from .55" to .75" long and the threads could be .62" to .64" long and still be within spec. That gives you a .22" variance of where the rear edge of the step down is. The length of the step down will affect how many turns you get and the overall length will determine where the rear of the suppressor (and mount) sit. You may be able to cut off the rear of an M4 collar and put a set screw in the forward portion, you may have to use the collar adapter extender, or you may need a custom mount. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2016 1:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I wouldn't need the collar extender just the M4 mount? only reason I was concerned is because I found this picture on instagram and seemed like the collar extender butted up to the FSB so I figured a m4 adapter wouldn't work http://i.imgur.com/OuJs7RQ.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
Originally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png enough room. Just need to remove the bayonet lug. So I wouldn't need the collar extender just the M4 mount? only reason I was concerned is because I found this picture on instagram and seemed like the collar extender butted up to the FSB so I figured a m4 adapter wouldn't work http://i.imgur.com/OuJs7RQ.png Called a CQB mount. Made for the 11.5" colt. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 2:01:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
[#27]
On a carbine length gas barrel, if everything is at the middle of the tolerance range, with a .700" long step and .625" long threads, while using an M4 or M4 AEM5 collar:
minimum barrel length with an AEM2,3,4 and 1" long low profile gas block- 11.3" minimum barrel length with an AEM2,3,4 and FSB (no bayonet lug)- 12.2" minimum barrel length with an AEM2,3,4 and FSB- 12.5" minimum barrel length with an AEM5 and 1" long low profile gas block- 11.5" minimum barrel length with an AEM5 and FSB (no bayonet lug)- 12.4" minimum barrel length with an AEM5 and FSB- 12.7" This is from measuring up my M4 AEM5 collar and assuming the M4 collar is exactly .25" shorter |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2016 3:24:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
On a carbine length gas barrel, if everything is at the middle of the tolerance range, with a .700" long step and .625" long threads, while using an M4 or M4 AEM5 collar: minimum barrel length with an AEM2,3,4 and 1" long low profile gas block- 11.2" minimum barrel length with an AEM2,3,4 and FSB (no bayonet lug)- 12.1" minimum barrel length with an AEM2,3,4 and FSB- 12.4" minimum barrel length with an AEM5 and 1" long low profile gas block- 11.5" minimum barrel length with an AEM5 and FSB (no bayonet lug)- 12.4" minimum barrel length with an AEM5 and FSB- 12.7" This is from measuring up my M4 AEM5 collar and assuming the M4 collar is exactly .25" shorter Thank you sir for the measurements |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2016 3:25:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HAMMERF0RGED]
[#29]
Originally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
Originally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By HAMMERF0RGED:
So I'm doing a faux mk18 FSP build using the AEM2 suppressor on an 11.5 with the .7 step. would a standard M4 collar work on this build if I shaved the bayo lug off the FSB or would I have to use the collar extender? Sorry if this has been touched on earlier in the thread I couldn't really find the answer to this specific question. It doesn't look like there is enough room to me. I believe you need a 11.85" (ATF measured length) or longer barrel with the AEM2,3,4 if you have a .700" long step down and .625" long threads. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk148/pezboytate/Firearms/11.5%20AEM2.png enough room. Just need to remove the bayonet lug. So I wouldn't need the collar extender just the M4 mount? only reason I was concerned is because I found this picture on instagram and seemed like the collar extender butted up to the FSB so I figured a m4 adapter wouldn't work http://i.imgur.com/OuJs7RQ.png Called a CQB mount. Made for the 11.5" colt. Happen to know where I could locate one? |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 3:59:09 PM EDT
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I'd guess it will only fit Colt 11.5" barrels since they have a unique profile.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2016 4:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
I'd guess it will only fit Colt 11.5" barrels since they have a unique profile. Did not know that, looks like i'm just going to buy an 11.5 and experiment from there. Might just bite the bullet and have ADCO build a custom collar and call it good. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2016 10:26:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: E5_Mitch]
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Have a couple questions that I'm hoping someone can help me with before I bug the guys at ADCO.
I'm interested in purchasing the AEM2. I want to keep the can compact but just take a little bit of the bark out. My barrel (14.5 pinned below) looks like it wouldn't take the AEMB mount with collar, and that I would need the extension for the collar and can to fit. Anyone have this setup? Issues with fitting? Edited to add: Are there custom collars that would allow the can to nut up closer to the rail or is that out of the question? Also, I can only find one youtube video with terrible audio quality on the AEM2 can. Does anyone have any videos showing a demo of the AEM2? Thanks in advance! 
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Posted: 8/3/2016 10:33:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E5_Mitch: Have a couple questions that I'm hoping someone can help me with before I bug the guys at ADCO. I'm interested in purchasing the AEM2. I want to keep the can compact but just take a little bit of the bark out. My barrel (14.5 pinned below) looks like it wouldn't take the AEMB mount with collar, and that I would need the extension for the collar and can to fit. Anyone have this setup? Issues with fitting? Also, I can only find one youtube video with terrible audio quality on the AEM2 can. Does anyone have any videos showing a demo of the AEM2? Thanks in advance! http://i.imgur.com/RDvhctX.jpg Looks like you have just enough space. Measure from the shoulder (specifically the shoulder between the barrel and the crush washer). If it is at least 2.085" from the shoulder to just before the handguard, you should be fine. But keep in mind that all m4 barrels are not created equal. Make sure the turned down area behind the muzzle device is 0.70" in diameter and is 0.655" in length (from the shoulder where the crush washer meets the barrel). Also make sure the OD of the barrel before the .70" area .0745". Those are the minimum lengths, so you can go a little long. If you meet the overall length the suppressor needs, but the shoulder for the collar is not to spec (length and OD), contact Ron and he can make you a collar, given if you can get accurate measurements (I highly suggest using a caliper). That would be the most inexpensive option. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2016 12:51:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Looks like you have just enough space. Measure from the shoulder (specifically the shoulder between the barrel and the crush washer). If it is at least 2.085" from the shoulder to just before the handguard, you should be fine. But keep in mind that all m4 barrels are not created equal. Make sure the turned down area behind the muzzle device is 0.70" in diameter and is 0.655" in length (from the shoulder where the crush washer meets the barrel). Also make sure the OD of the barrel before the .70" area .0745". Those are the minimum lengths, so you can go a little long. If you meet the overall length the suppressor needs, but the shoulder for the collar is not to spec (length and OD), contact Ron and he can make you a collar, given if you can get accurate measurements (I highly suggest using a caliper). That would be the most inexpensive option. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By E5_Mitch:
Have a couple questions that I'm hoping someone can help me with before I bug the guys at ADCO. I'm interested in purchasing the AEM2. I want to keep the can compact but just take a little bit of the bark out. My barrel (14.5 pinned below) looks like it wouldn't take the AEMB mount with collar, and that I would need the extension for the collar and can to fit. Anyone have this setup? Issues with fitting? Also, I can only find one youtube video with terrible audio quality on the AEM2 can. Does anyone have any videos showing a demo of the AEM2? Thanks in advance! http://i.imgur.com/RDvhctX.jpg Looks like you have just enough space. Measure from the shoulder (specifically the shoulder between the barrel and the crush washer). If it is at least 2.085" from the shoulder to just before the handguard, you should be fine. But keep in mind that all m4 barrels are not created equal. Make sure the turned down area behind the muzzle device is 0.70" in diameter and is 0.655" in length (from the shoulder where the crush washer meets the barrel). Also make sure the OD of the barrel before the .70" area .0745". Those are the minimum lengths, so you can go a little long. If you meet the overall length the suppressor needs, but the shoulder for the collar is not to spec (length and OD), contact Ron and he can make you a collar, given if you can get accurate measurements (I highly suggest using a caliper). That would be the most inexpensive option. Thanks very much for the help! I know that I have 1.7" from the shoulder to the handguard (2.2" from handguard to end of barrel), but the ID of the handguard is 1.5". Hoping that would allow enough room, should a little bit of the can have to hide. I'll measure out the barrel diameters to be sure they fit the guidelines you've posted. Hoping everything works out. Thanks again! |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 4:32:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E5_Mitch:
Thanks very much for the help! I know that I have 1.7" from the shoulder to the handguard (2.2" from handguard to end of barrel), but the ID of the handguard is 1.5". Hoping that would allow enough room, should a little bit of the can have to hide. I'll measure out the barrel diameters to be sure they fit the guidelines you've posted. Hoping everything works out. Thanks again! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E5_Mitch:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By E5_Mitch:
Have a couple questions that I'm hoping someone can help me with before I bug the guys at ADCO. I'm interested in purchasing the AEM2. I want to keep the can compact but just take a little bit of the bark out. My barrel (14.5 pinned below) looks like it wouldn't take the AEMB mount with collar, and that I would need the extension for the collar and can to fit. Anyone have this setup? Issues with fitting? Also, I can only find one youtube video with terrible audio quality on the AEM2 can. Does anyone have any videos showing a demo of the AEM2? Thanks in advance! http://i.imgur.com/RDvhctX.jpg Looks like you have just enough space. Measure from the shoulder (specifically the shoulder between the barrel and the crush washer). If it is at least 2.085" from the shoulder to just before the handguard, you should be fine. But keep in mind that all m4 barrels are not created equal. Make sure the turned down area behind the muzzle device is 0.70" in diameter and is 0.655" in length (from the shoulder where the crush washer meets the barrel). Also make sure the OD of the barrel before the .70" area .0745". Those are the minimum lengths, so you can go a little long. If you meet the overall length the suppressor needs, but the shoulder for the collar is not to spec (length and OD), contact Ron and he can make you a collar, given if you can get accurate measurements (I highly suggest using a caliper). That would be the most inexpensive option. Thanks very much for the help! I know that I have 1.7" from the shoulder to the handguard (2.2" from handguard to end of barrel), but the ID of the handguard is 1.5". Hoping that would allow enough room, should a little bit of the can have to hide. I'll measure out the barrel diameters to be sure they fit the guidelines you've posted. Hoping everything works out. Thanks again! That will be cutting it close. You need at least 1.75" from the end of the handguard to the barrel shoulder for the suppressor to be in front of the hand guard. The rear part of the collar will definitely fit under the hand guard, it is about 1" in diameter. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 1:33:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Does anyone have velocity data for your rifle with and without an AE30 attached?
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Posted: 8/8/2016 3:23:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: the-answer-is-42]
[#37]
Just to remind you guys asking about weird barrel and suppressor mounting combos...Spike's Tactical, while not approved by Ron, makes collars/brakes/LPGB with built in collar for these cans and it opens up more options for mounting.
(Dont shoot me, Ron)
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NM, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2016 1:00:53 PM EDT
[#38]
I have a AE5 inbound one day and I was thinking about swapping handgaurds out on a colt socom upper I have. I was thinking about a PRI rifle forearm, ditching the front sight and troy handgaurds, rigging up a low profile gas block under the forearm and running a collar that matches the 16inch socom barrel for the AE5.
Reading a few pages back I see a 13 inch guyslee on a 16 inch barrel, the PRI is 12.5, has anyone had any issues doing this? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/10/2016 1:06:35 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6172crew:
I have a AE5 inbound one day and I was thinking about swapping handgaurds out on a colt socom upper I have. I was thinking about a PRI rifle forearm, ditching the front sight and troy handgaurds, rigging up a low profile gas block under the forearm and running a collar that matches the 16inch socom barrel for the AE5. Reading a few pages back I see a 13 inch guyslee on a 16 inch barrel, the PRI is 12.5, has anyone had any issues doing this? If I'm reading that right it should be fine. Have you ever looked at the Mk12 thread? It sounds like you're describing a Mod Holland (there's a good pic at the bottom of the first post). |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 1:14:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6172crew: I have a AE5 inbound one day and I was thinking about swapping handgaurds out on a colt socom upper I have. I was thinking about a PRI rifle forearm, ditching the front sight and troy handgaurds, rigging up a low profile gas block under the forearm and running a collar that matches the 16inch socom barrel for the AE5. Reading a few pages back I see a 13 inch guyslee on a 16 inch barrel, the PRI is 12.5, has anyone had any issues doing this? You'll be fine. Unlike mine (the described 13" geissele), the AE cans will fit under PRI handguards. So you could go shorter in barrel lengtg if you wanted to. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 12:20:30 PM EDT
[#41]
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Posted: 8/17/2016 1:26:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrkirby: I just got in a custom collar from Ron for a retro build that I'm doing. I can't say enough about his customer service. A++. http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff431/Anthony_Kirby/Mobile%20Uploads/6370DCFB-B693-4EE4-9B82-902F1E733F38_zps6mo4xzk6.jpg Boss! |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 3:13:05 PM EDT
[#43]
I got the AEM5 for a Mk12 build, but I think I might be more excited to shoot it on this gun
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2016 12:48:28 AM EDT
[#44]
Is anyone running an adjustable gas block with their aem5? Running with a non adjustable block, anyone have over gassing issues?
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Posted: 8/28/2016 9:55:33 AM EDT
[#45]
Question for those that have used the flash hider mounts.
How do you install them? The one I have has no wrench flats and I can't find a screwdriver that will fit through the slots. I was thinking a pipe wrench with tape on the jaws? Vice grips? I just don't want to deform or scratch the flash hider. How do you guys do it? |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 11:13:51 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kirbykid25:
Is anyone running an adjustable gas block with their aem5? Running with a non adjustable block, anyone have over gassing issues? I asked this a few pages back and answers I got were you're GTG w/o adjustable in this set up with the AEM5 |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 11:38:06 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flyit14:
Question for those that have used the flash hider mounts. How do you install them? The one I have has no wrench flats and I can't find a screwdriver that will fit through the slots. I was thinking a pipe wrench with tape on the jaws? Vice grips? I just don't want to deform or scratch the flash hider. How do you guys do it? Flat bar stock. At the least something that spans across the slots of the flash hider. Remember the ~20 ft-lbs is actually not a whole lot, and the resistance when you torque it down feels a little different when using shims vs. crush washer. I usually use shims with the flash hiders since the threaded portion of the flash hiders end up being fairly close in length to the threaded portion of most barrels, and a crush washer would cause the muzzle to be set in too deep. |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 12:38:10 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kirbykid25: Is anyone running an adjustable gas block with their aem5? Running with a non adjustable block, anyone have over gassing issues? I stuck 2 Allen keys in the slots (all the way through), and used my aromorers tool against the keys as leverage tighten the muzzle device. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2016 3:49:57 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flyit14:
Question for those that have used the flash hider mounts. How do you install them? The one I have has no wrench flats and I can't find a screwdriver that will fit through the slots. I was thinking a pipe wrench with tape on the jaws? Vice grips? I just don't want to deform or scratch the flash hider. How do you guys do it? Large straight blade screwdriver |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 12:20:50 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrkirby:
I just got in a custom collar from Ron for a retro build that I'm doing. I can't say enough about his customer service. A++. <a href="http://s1235.photobucket.com/user/Anthony_Kirby/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6370DCFB-B693-4EE4-9B82-902F1E733F38_zps6mo4xzk6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff431/Anthony_Kirby/Mobile%20Uploads/6370DCFB-B693-4EE4-9B82-902F1E733F38_zps6mo4xzk6.jpg</a> That collar looks familiar. 
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