Are they loud with the ejection port close to the ear?  Gas to the face?  I get no gas back on my ARs with my specwar but might consider a trek on an Aug.  Thanks.

My MSAR gassed hard. Not to mention the big black ring on my shoulder where gas was escaping the butplate

 

That is what I was wondering, thanks.  Plus, I forgot about the metric, LH threads.  Oh well, that just saved my a bunch of money.  Found a used A3, great condition for $1400, but not interested in shooting in unsuppressed.

Here's a Socom SB on a factory 14" barrel. I don't get gas in the face.

https://youtu.be/zh_ncS0fCSY

Where did you find the Socom AUG mount?

I looked forever for a muzzle device long enough to pin and weld without much luck. Marvin Pitts was going to make me a custom piece based on the Wilson Combat flash hider. Then, I stumbled on a legacy flash hider for a MP7. It was long enough and the thread pitch small enough that it could be repurposed. Marvin re threaded it and pinned and welded it. The SOCOM SB fits and functions fine, but doesn't index as the legacy mount lacks the index tab at the base.

My Tavor with 556SD gets a lot of gas to my face. Almost unpleasant where I don't even like it suppressed.

While I cant speak to the Tavor since I don't have one.  The AUGs vent out a lot of high pressure gas from the gas block which I assume is going to be really loud even with a suppressor attached.

The only way I could see effectively suppressing an AUG is to run it in the grenade launch setting on the block which prevents any gas escape from the gas system to the atmosphere.  Granted the gun is going to be single shot at that point but it would be an option for a single silent shot (for hunting, etc.)

I believe ratworx was working on a dedicated AUG suppressor that essentially encapsulated the gas block/regulator to allow the gas that is vented out from the block to stay inside the suppressor envelope.   Not sure if they ever dialed it in and got all the bugs out or not.

My MSAR is a lot louder for the shooter due to the ejection port right under the ear. To a bystander it is slightly louder than a DI. Still effective though. Make sure you set the block to suppressed setting or you'll way over gas and beat up your internals needlessly.

My Aug with SDN-6 shoots lots of crap out the ejection port. It's fun and compact, though.

My brother owns both. With his AAC Mini-4 on the Tavor, it is very nice to shoot. Quiet enough without ear pro, very little gas to the face, overall a very good suppressor host. As for the Aug, terrible!! Loud as hell, both with a Mini-4 and with an SDN-6. Not a good suppressor host, with most of the noise coming from the gas port I suspect.

I run a saker and soon a saker k on my Tavor.  It is pretty pleasant to shoot.  There is probably a bit more noise at the port, but not enough I can claim to notice. I don't notice any extra gas to the face,


 

Sounds like I will just stay with my DI ARs then.  I finally got my 11.5" SBR out with a Specwar 556 on it, it was fun to shoot.  Made my teeth rattle w/o it and just a brake under the tin roof at the range.

this will take care of it on tavor,  works good

Gear Head Works FLEx Swivel - Ejection Port Cover for the IWI Tavor

http://www.bullpuparmory.com/Bullpup_Armory_GHW_FLEx_p/ghw-flex-tav.htm

I love mine.



Had to drill out the 'adverse' port of the gas regulator in order to get it to cycle properly. Before that, when I had it set to normal, it was running the bolt too fast. Now it runs just fine. It's a pig though, 11lbs unloaded w/ the can mounted.

tell me more about this drilling of the gas port on the AUG?

Get one of the better gas port covers by MI or Gearhead. Makes a big difference.

I LOVE my Tavor suppressed.

The gas regulator, actually. It's kind of backwards to think about, since on ARs, we're used to smaller gas ports to let less gas INTO the action. On the AUG it's the opposite. The vent holes let gas OUT of the action.

So what I did, since I will never use the adverse (smaller hole, to let more gas into the action and cycle harder) setting was drill it out so that I could have a suppressed setting. I was having trouble with the bolt running too fast and causing stovepipes and the like, and posted about it on Lightfighter. An Austrian military guy posted that new production military AUGs don't have an adverse setting anymore, they have a suppressed setting with a bigger hole. From his measurements, the normal gas hole is .072" and the suppressed use(larger) gas hole is .101". So I used a .107" drill bit (closest thing I had to that size), drilled it out with a drill press, and ran with it.

Funny thing is, it works fine even unsuppressed on the suppressed setting.

Ugly? Sure is. But since the drilled portion is on the inside, you can't see it anyways.

My Tavor With SOCOM RC is pleasant. No issues.

Tavor with AAC M4-2000 suppressor and no issues / no surprises.
Runs fine and much more pleasant to shoot suppressed.

How dirty do the Tavor internals get with suppressed fire?

Just seems like it'd be harder to access all the places in the internals compared to an AR15.