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Posted: 3/24/2015 9:51:41 PM EDT
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There is no best can.
If you can define your parameters (size, weight, cost, cleanability, dB reduction) then we can steer you towards something that would fit your needs. |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 9:53:41 PM EDT
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I don't want to be a dick but Jesus, read the first two pages of threads and then come back with a more pointed question
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Posted: 3/24/2015 9:56:30 PM EDT
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I just purchased a Silencer Co Spectre II. So I am just getting everything started.
I was between the Silencer Co Spectre II and the SS Sparrow. I chose the Spectre II for the reduced FRP, multi caliber, SS baffles and 1" diameter for use with hard holsters on my Ruger MKIII LITE. Spectre II -Little FRP (First Round Pop) -Stainless Steel K baffles -K baffles are sealed in themselves, making disassembly easy - no caking on the inside walls of the suppressor body. -1" diameter (fits holsters for Ruger Bull/LITE barrels) -6" length -Multi-caliber rated -Per Silencer Co websites, it has some of the best suppression available. SS Sparrow -Mono core design (unfortunately this means louder FRP) -SS -Shorter than the Spectre II 5" -Slightly thicker than the Spectre II 1.06" -.3 oz lighter than Spectre II -Sparrow is about $90 more expensive. My understanding is that FRP is significant mostly in pistols with the Sparrow. Using the Sparrow or Spectre II on rifle have minimal difference in FRP. So depends on what your needs/wants are. SS baffles allow you to use an ultrasonic cleaner. You can not use ultrasonic cleaners with aluminum, which most .22 suppressor baffles are made of, either 6000 or 7000 series Al. You sacrifice weight unfortunately. Only a few companies offer the SS baffles. |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 11:06:14 PM EDT
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There is no best can. If you can define your parameters (size, weight, cost, cleanability, dB reduction) then we can steer you towards something that would fit your needs. Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 11:11:06 PM EDT
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I just purchased a Silencer Co Spectre II. So I am just getting everything started. I was between the Silencer Co Spectre II and the SS Sparrow. I chose the Spectre II for the reduced FRP, multi caliber, SS baffles and 1" diameter for use with hard holsters on my Ruger MKIII LITE. Spectre II -Little FRP (First Round Pop) -Stainless Steel K baffles -K baffles are sealed in themselves, making disassembly easy - no caking on the inside walls of the suppressor body. -1" diameter (fits holsters for Ruger Bull/LITE barrels) -6" length -Multi-caliber rated -Per Silencer Co websites, it has some of the best suppression available. SS Sparrow -Mono core design (unfortunately this means louder FRP) -SS -Shorter than the Spectre II 5" -Slightly thicker than the Spectre II 1.06" -.3 oz lighter than Spectre II -Sparrow is about $90 more expensive. My understanding is that FRP is significant mostly in pistols with the Sparrow. Using the Sparrow or Spectre II on rifle have minimal difference in FRP. So depends on what your needs/wants are. SS baffles allow you to use an ultrasonic cleaner. You can not use ultrasonic cleaners with aluminum, which most .22 suppressor baffles are made of, either 6000 or 7000 series Al. You sacrifice weight unfortunately. Only a few companies offer the SS baffles. Thank you for the reply, I will research both of these. FRP is low on my priority list, cleaning sounds easier with the stainless though. Is cleaning a 22 can very time consuming? My 223 can and 30 cal can are both "maintenance free" and I have never had experience with a 22 can. Does the carbon cake on there any worse than cleaning an ar with a few thousand rounds between cleaning? |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 11:14:35 PM EDT
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Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is no best can. If you can define your parameters (size, weight, cost, cleanability, dB reduction) then we can steer you towards something that would fit your needs. Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... Then go for the Element 2. It has no first round pop, all are shots are equal in db reduction, still easy to take apart, and is probably the quietest 22 can out on the market while weighing only 4 ounces because its titanium. The downside, is its the most expensive, at roughly $450. The best bang for your buck is the Spectre II though. problem solved. your welcome ETA: Sparrow has a pretty big FRP. That can be a deal breaker when trying to impress someone. |
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Posted: 3/24/2015 11:28:43 PM EDT
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I have a Pilot 2 and a Sparrow SS. If I could only have one it would be the Sparrow hands down.
22 cans aren't heavy per say. Sparrow feels like it was maid with durability in mind. FRP is just a little louder than the rest of the shots it's still quieter than unsuppressed. There isn't a can that’s going to be MUCH quieter than another similar can period. The Sparrow is not over priced it's worth every penny 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 12:07:40 AM EDT
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Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is no best can. If you can define your parameters (size, weight, cost, cleanability, dB reduction) then we can steer you towards something that would fit your needs. Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... Element 2 for lightweight and a pistol host. Other light weight cans are the GM-22 ( i have on pending), and warlock from SiCO |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 12:16:16 AM EDT
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Then go for the Element 2. It has no first round pop, all are shots are equal in db reduction, still easy to take apart, and is probably the quietest 22 can out on the market while weighing only 4 ounces because its titanium. The downside, is its the most expensive, at roughly $450. The best bang for your buck is the Spectre II though. problem solved. your welcome ETA: Sparrow has a pretty big FRP. That can be a deal breaker when trying to impress someone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is no best can. If you can define your parameters (size, weight, cost, cleanability, dB reduction) then we can steer you towards something that would fit your needs. Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... Then go for the Element 2. It has no first round pop, all are shots are equal in db reduction, still easy to take apart, and is probably the quietest 22 can out on the market while weighing only 4 ounces because its titanium. The downside, is its the most expensive, at roughly $450. The best bang for your buck is the Spectre II though. problem solved. your welcome ETA: Sparrow has a pretty big FRP. That can be a deal breaker when trying to impress someone. This is accurate. My sparrow has worse frp than my element2. However, the element is not anywhere near as easy to take apart as the sparrow. Only gets to be a pain when you go a lot of rounds without cleaning. Oh, and the sparrow is significantly heavier than the element. Might take a look at the surefire Ryder. If I was looking for a rim fire can right now, that might be what I'd do. In fact, that doesn't sound like a bad idea... Enclosed, pig nosed k-baffle? Sexy. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 12:39:24 AM EDT
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Anyone here have experience with the surefire ryder? I
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Posted: 3/25/2015 12:42:54 AM EDT
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Anyone here have experience with the surefire ryder? I Quoted: whats the deal on the Surefire Ryder 22? is it any good? is it even for sale yet? where does it relate in comparison to other 22's like the spectre II or the element 2? "Haven't seen too many reviews. A self proclaimed "Surefire fanboy" gave a small review on here. He didn't give it high marks." whatever, fuck these quote blocks. Not my quote, from the 34 page deal thread |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 12:44:28 AM EDT
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dsgarms has the surefire in stock
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Posted: 3/25/2015 1:10:13 AM EDT
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Sorry, I should have worded my question a bit better... I would prefer smaller and lighter as that would be more ideal for a pistol, ease of cleaning would be great as I hate cleaning guns LOL - and 22lr is pretty dirty anyway, cost is not much of a factor considering its basically a life-long investment with the 200.00 tax stamp so I would rather buy once - Cry once.... Warlock, Outback IID, Eco-22, Pilot2, Element, Ryder all meet those. I myself would go for something in the $200 range, as there is no need to spend $500 or more to get a good 22LR can. Those days are over. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:05:29 AM EDT
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Stainless baffles are your friend. I have a pilot 2 that has aluminum baffles, sucks when my buddies toss their baffles in dip and start drinking while I'm scrubbing baffles with a toothbrush for 30 minutes.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 4:46:23 AM EDT
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I just purchased a Silencer Co Spectre II. So I am just getting everything started. I was between the Silencer Co Spectre II and the SS Sparrow. I chose the Spectre II for the reduced FRP, multi caliber, SS baffles and 1" diameter for use with hard holsters on my Ruger MKIII LITE. Spectre II -Little FRP (First Round Pop) -Stainless Steel K baffles -K baffles are sealed in themselves, making disassembly easy - no caking on the inside walls of the suppressor body. -1" diameter (fits holsters for Ruger Bull/LITE barrels) -6" length -Multi-caliber rated -Per Silencer Co websites, it has some of the best suppression available. SS Sparrow -Mono core design (unfortunately this means louder FRP) -SS -Shorter than the Spectre II 5" -Slightly thicker than the Spectre II 1.06" -.3 oz lighter than Spectre II -Sparrow is about $90 more expensive. My understanding is that FRP is significant mostly in pistols with the Sparrow. Using the Sparrow or Spectre II on rifle have minimal difference in FRP. So depends on what your needs/wants are. SS baffles allow you to use an ultrasonic cleaner. You can not use ultrasonic cleaners with aluminum, which most .22 suppressor baffles are made of, either 6000 or 7000 series Al. You sacrifice weight unfortunately. Only a few companies offer the SS baffles. First round pop is really made out as much more of an issue than it is. The first shot is ever so slightly louder than the rest. That's it. It's not as though the first shot is LOUD. And the Sparrow is multi-caliber as well. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 9:08:23 AM EDT
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I have a Sparrow and love it. Cleaning is very easy with an ultrasonic, and the FRP is not as bad as most would have you believe. It is noticeable on a pistol, but not terrible, and virtually nonexistent on a rifle. The suppressor is well built and I expect it to last a long time with proper maintenance. Just my 2 cents
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Posted: 3/25/2015 6:56:35 PM EDT
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If cost is no real object, the Element 2 is clear winner for OP's needs. Extraordinarily quiet on a pistol, very durable, no FRP, yet very lightweight compared to the competition with similar construction (approx. 30% lighter than a Sparrow or Spectre II). The only problem is its MSRP, but you can find it for much less if you look around. They were available for $350 and less on Gunbroker recently.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 7:01:54 PM EDT
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best all around can for everything hands down is the Silencerco Spectre II. Easy to clean, durable, stupid quiet, versatile, everything you want.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 7:19:38 PM EDT
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Like the Sparrow.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 7:53:34 PM EDT
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I have two .22 suppressors, a Sparrow and a Spectre II. Both great suppressors.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 10:54:31 PM EDT
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First round pop is really made out as much more of an issue than it is. The first shot is ever so slightly louder than the rest. That's it. It's not as though the first shot is LOUD. And the Sparrow is multi-caliber as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just purchased a Silencer Co Spectre II. So I am just getting everything started. I was between the Silencer Co Spectre II and the SS Sparrow. I chose the Spectre II for the reduced FRP, multi caliber, SS baffles and 1" diameter for use with hard holsters on my Ruger MKIII LITE. Spectre II -Little FRP (First Round Pop) -Stainless Steel K baffles -K baffles are sealed in themselves, making disassembly easy - no caking on the inside walls of the suppressor body. -1" diameter (fits holsters for Ruger Bull/LITE barrels) -6" length -Multi-caliber rated -Per Silencer Co websites, it has some of the best suppression available. SS Sparrow -Mono core design (unfortunately this means louder FRP) -SS -Shorter than the Spectre II 5" -Slightly thicker than the Spectre II 1.06" -.3 oz lighter than Spectre II -Sparrow is about $90 more expensive. My understanding is that FRP is significant mostly in pistols with the Sparrow. Using the Sparrow or Spectre II on rifle have minimal difference in FRP. So depends on what your needs/wants are. SS baffles allow you to use an ultrasonic cleaner. You can not use ultrasonic cleaners with aluminum, which most .22 suppressor baffles are made of, either 6000 or 7000 series Al. You sacrifice weight unfortunately. Only a few companies offer the SS baffles. First round pop is really made out as much more of an issue than it is. The first shot is ever so slightly louder than the rest. That's it. It's not as though the first shot is LOUD. And the Sparrow is multi-caliber as well. The difference in FRP was not the only criteria that sold me on the Spectre II. As previously stated, I had a multitude of parameters I was seeking. The Spectre II also has a 1.00" diameter body which will allow easy re-holstering of my Ruger MKIII LITE, with a suppresser, in a hard holster. I made it clear that I was seeking something specific and the summary of both suppressors. Both had their pros and cons, the Spectre just suited my wants. The suppressor was also primarily going to stay on the MKIII. But I have the option to throw it on my AR22 and 17hmr rifle. Everyone has to make their own decision on what is important for them. I just tried to lay out the basic features of both. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:23:10 PM EDT
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Not knocking your choice, I own the same suppressor and love it. Was just commenting and clarifying on the Sparrow being multi-caliber, and on FRP.
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Posted: 3/26/2015 2:36:30 AM EDT
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very happy with my spectre 2
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Posted: 3/26/2015 11:03:49 AM EDT
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It's new so there aren't really any reviews I've seen of it yet, but Dave from Liberty has boasted about some pretty insane decibels on their new Regulator. On NFATalk he said they got a reading of less than 110 decibels. It's also lighter than the Kodiak TL. I bought a Kodiak TL (still waiting on the stamp) and of course the Regulator came out a week or two after...
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Posted: 3/26/2015 2:29:42 PM EDT
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It's new so there aren't really any reviews I've seen of it yet, but Dave from Liberty has boasted about some pretty insane decibels on their new Regulator. On NFATalk he said they got a reading of less than 110 decibels. It's also lighter than the Kodiak TL. I bought a Kodiak TL (still waiting on the stamp) and of course the Regulator came out a week or two after... I saw that its a mono-core can. I wonder how close the first shot was to 110db. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 9:53:23 PM EDT
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For the price the Spectre ll cant be beat I think. That's why I own one.
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Posted: 3/28/2015 7:21:31 PM EDT
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Anyone here have experience with the surefire ryder? I I have it, it's awesome. I wanted a lightweight can that performs great, would last, and was built by a reputable manufacturer. I am going to get a second Ryder 22. |
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Posted: 3/28/2015 11:10:41 PM EDT
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I bought a Liberty Essence complete titanium can in late 2011. It came highly recommended by Arfcom at the time. It was my first suppressor and I had never even seen a legal suppressor in my life so I went with the buy once cry once philosophy it was $650 but I got a 10% L.E. discount so it came to $585 plus transfer and tax so it was $835 OTD. I love it even though it does have a small amount of FRP. I guess technology has gotten a little better and cheaper, but I will say it is extremely light and giggle quiet on the range. I have shot it in my back yard and my next door neighbor 50 feet away inside his house didn't even know I was shooting.
If I had it to do over I may have gone with a cheaper can now that I have seen some other models in action, but I don't regret getting the best available at the time because I had no frame of reference and if a cheaper can didn't live up to my expectations I would have been stuck buying another can and waiting for another stamp to clear for what I should have gotten in the first place. |
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Posted: 3/29/2015 9:20:21 AM EDT
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Spectre II -Little FRP (First Round Pop) -Stainless Steel K baffles -K baffles are sealed in themselves, making disassembly easy - no caking on the inside walls of the suppressor body. -1" diameter (fits holsters for Ruger Bull/LITE barrels) -6" length -Multi-caliber rated -Per Silencer Co websites, it has some of the best suppression available. SS baffles allow you to use an ultrasonic cleaner. You can not use ultrasonic cleaners with aluminum, which most .22 suppressor baffles are made of, either 6000 or 7000 series Al. You sacrifice weight unfortunately. Only a few companies offer the SS baffles. This post nails it. I love my Spectre II. As mentioned, no FRP that I have experienced. Very quiet, easy to disassemble, and if it weighs more than some competitors I can't tell it or don't care. |
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