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357 can go from mild to wild.
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Pics: Sure, I doubt you'd want them though. List of reasons: - Lightweight/Handy little short range range rig. - Low Recoil (nonexistent with .38 special loadings) - Straight wall pistol cartridge, so easy on brass, and less drama than rifle reloading. - Great suppressor host View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm thinking about writing a story about the 77/357 for TFB. First, does anyone mind if I use their pics? Second, can you list the reasons that you love your 77/357? Is there anything you'd like to see included? Pics: Sure, I doubt you'd want them though. List of reasons: - Lightweight/Handy little short range range rig. - Low Recoil (nonexistent with .38 special loadings) - Straight wall pistol cartridge, so easy on brass, and less drama than rifle reloading. - Great suppressor host To add to this (even though I don't currently have the setup) it would be legal to deer hunting here. |
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http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77685
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Bump. Putting stuff together. Just making sure everyone is ok with me using their pics (credited). I'm trying to avoid IMing everyone individually.
Thanks everyone. Confirmed: PTaylor Mike Slacker(?) Postban? Killroy? Everyone else? |
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77/44 Exclusive for anyone in the market. Looks very nice.
http://www.ruger.com/products/77Series7744/specSheets/7401.html |
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Also, I have my new/unused take-off polymer 77/357 stock available. FREE to a good home.
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F1 Received. Barreled action goes out today for cut & thread to 10".
It's finally moving forward. F1 turnaround time kicked my butt. last one was 29 days door to door. This one was nearly six months. |
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can.
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... View Quote Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. |
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Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. I had planned on the Liberty adapter for the can, but wasn't sure there was a good 3 lug for the barrel. That'll save me a lot of pain in the ass later. Thanks |
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I had planned on the Liberty adapter for the can, but wasn't sure there was a good 3 lug for the barrel. That'll save me a lot of pain in the ass later. Thanks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. I had planned on the Liberty adapter for the can, but wasn't sure there was a good 3 lug for the barrel. That'll save me a lot of pain in the ass later. Thanks Once you get everything setup, use either rocksett or the red loktite on super clean Degreased Threads to attach the 3 lug on the barrel. It really sucks to have it unscrew at the range. The heat will break down the blue loktite real fast. No wrench flats on most of the 3 lug screw on adapters so use the mount to tighten it, then let it setup before removing. |
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Once you get everything setup, use either rocksett or the red loktite on super clean Degreased Threads to attach the 3 lug on the barrel. It really sucks to have it unscrew at the range. The heat will break down the blue loktite real fast. No wrench flats on most of the 3 lug screw on adapters so use the mount to tighten it, then let it setup before removing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. I had planned on the Liberty adapter for the can, but wasn't sure there was a good 3 lug for the barrel. That'll save me a lot of pain in the ass later. Thanks Once you get everything setup, use either rocksett or the red loktite on super clean Degreased Threads to attach the 3 lug on the barrel. It really sucks to have it unscrew at the range. The heat will break down the blue loktite real fast. No wrench flats on most of the 3 lug screw on adapters so use the mount to tighten it, then let it setup before removing. I'll be going with Rocksett since I've had bad interactions with red locktite lol. Still gotta get the rifle, file form 1 for that, etc so it'll be quite a while yet. |
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I've been busy since my stamp came back! What do you guys think of it in stainless/nutmeg? http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357.jpg http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357_mount.JPG http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357_inlet.JPG http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357_3lug.JPG View Quote Wow! Love it! But I'm a stainless/walnut guy |
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Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. Just curious, what cheap 3 lugs are you referring to? |
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. Just curious, what cheap 3 lugs are you referring to? The silencerstore.com for sure. They are cheap crap. I have not tried hkparts.com but as I understand, the owner is In very hot water with the feds, so returns may be iffy. I think Brownells normally has TROS in stock. |
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. Just curious, what cheap 3 lugs are you referring to? Most any 9mm can will be fine with 38spl. |
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I like it What trilug mount did you use for the can? Figure I was looking at getting the Mystic-X 3 lug adapter when I get the can. Soon....soon... Originally I used the Gemtech multi mount but it's not rated for 357 mag And it does not cover all the inner mount threads so they Get all carboned up. Once that hsppens, it's hard to screw in the the fixed Barrel mount without scraping and cleaning. Big PITA. I finally broke down and bought the Liberty 3 lug. It's MUCH heavier and is rated for all the calibers the Mystic is. The 3 lug adapter is a TROS. Don't cheap out on the 3 lug (barrel side). The cheap ones SUCK. Just curious, what cheap 3 lugs are you referring to? Most any 9mm can will be fine with 38spl. I ordered the liberty cosmic, cuz mine's a .44... Still waiting on a stamp though... |
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I've been busy since my stamp came back! What do you guys think of it in stainless/nutmeg? http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357.jpg http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357_mount.JPG http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357_inlet.JPG http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/77_357_3lug.JPG View Quote That looks familiar . Do did an amazing job with that stock man. |
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Oh no! email a few minutes ago. https://mlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/04e6568c001/d884c8c1-f3e4-46a7-a419-12ebbd90fec3.jpg View Quote Fucking yikes |
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Oh no! email a few minutes ago. https://mlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/04e6568c001/d884c8c1-f3e4-46a7-a419-12ebbd90fec3.jpg View Quote WTF. |
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Oh no! email a few minutes ago. https://mlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/04e6568c001/d884c8c1-f3e4-46a7-a419-12ebbd90fec3.jpg View Quote "Temporarily" Maybe they are coming out with a (20)16 series |
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Oh no! email a few minutes ago. https://mlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/04e6568c001/d884c8c1-f3e4-46a7-a419-12ebbd90fec3.jpg "Temporarily" Maybe they are coming out with a (20)16 series The rest of the email makes it sound like they are unsure if they are coming back. Has something like this might be your last chance to get one or something. I don't have any cash, so I'm trying to hock stuff in a hurry since that is the one gun I *really* wanted. Was going to have the money in a month or two. Fuckers. |
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Oh no! email a few minutes ago. https://mlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/04e6568c001/d884c8c1-f3e4-46a7-a419-12ebbd90fec3.jpg "Temporarily" Maybe they are coming out with a (20)16 series They are. It has a redesigned magazine, to handle longer cartridges and a faster twist barrel. It is aimed specifically at people shooting heavy, subsonic handloads. Just kidding, sorry... |
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I got one. $720 after shipping and transfer to be here next week ish. Only had to sell my.22 and complete ammo stash to do it, but I got one.
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I got one. $720 after shipping and transfer to be here next week ish. Only had to sell my.22 and complete ammo stash to do it, but I got one. Now I'm going to go nurse my sore asshole. Great price! Sorry about the .22. Replaceable I hope. Yeah, Savage FVSR so easily replaceable though. Literally a week old and I just put the scope on it last night. |
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I know a couple of you have chronographed loads so I was wondering what data you were getting with factory ammo. Ballistics by the Inch shows a 16" barrel as getting the most velocity out of a .357 load, but that's a bit longer than I wanted to go. Mostly I'm wondering what real world stuff you've all noticed. It'll mostly be a paper killer, but also a deer gun if I ever get moved south. |
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I'm running the 77/357 story this week. In memoriam.
If you have pictures that you'd like included. Now is the time. Slacker, your rifle gets top billing. |
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Oh no! email a few minutes ago. https://mlsvc01-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/04e6568c001/d884c8c1-f3e4-46a7-a419-12ebbd90fec3.jpg "Temporarily" Maybe they are coming out with a (20)16 series They are. It has a redesigned magazine, to handle longer cartridges and a faster twist barrel. It is aimed specifically at people shooting heavy, subsonic handloads. Just kidding, sorry... That was really mean, like kicking a puppy mean! |
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_36_59_110/products_id/719010058
$583 @ Buds for the blued version. Ruger 77/357 357MAG BL/SYN RGS SGTS Wednesday for the TFB piece. Thanks for your help everyone. |
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Question guys: I know a couple of you have chronographed loads so I was wondering what data you were getting with factory ammo. Ballistics by the Inch shows a 16" barrel as getting the most velocity out of a .357 load, but that's a bit longer than I wanted to go. Mostly I'm wondering what real world stuff you've all noticed. It'll mostly be a paper killer, but also a deer gun if I ever get moved south. View Quote I've never fired a factory round from mine but here is what I saw with my xtp/H110 reloads with the 18" and 10", using the same load. It's worth mentioning that I saw very small (30 ish fps) loss Of velocity with the 200+gr loads after going from 18" to 10". 18" bbl 158gr xtp, 16.5gr H110, 1705fps 10" bbl, 1627fps 18" bbl 125gr XTP, 21.0Gr H110, 2170fps 10" bbl, 1912 fps |
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_36_59_110/products_id/719010058 $583 @ Buds for the blued version. Ruger 77/357 357MAG BL/SYN RGS SGTS Wednesday for the TFB piece. Thanks for your help everyone. View Quote That is impressive, especially given it was $660 in 2014, according to this thread. I have been looking for an excuse to get a DeadAir Ghost 45. Can anyone comment on whether it would be a good choice for a 77/357 project? I don't own any pistol cans currently. |
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https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2084_36_59_110/products_id/719010058 $583 @ Buds for the blued version. Ruger 77/357 357MAG BL/SYN RGS SGTS Wednesday for the TFB piece. Thanks for your help everyone. That is impressive, especially given it was $660 in 2014, according to this thread. I have been looking for an excuse to get a DeadAir Ghost 45. Can anyone comment on whether it would be a good choice for a 77/357 project? I don't own any pistol cans currently. I would go with a 9mm can over a 45 if quiet is high on your list. It's kind of like putting a 3" pipe exhaust on a Honda. That said, I have used my 45 can on my 77/357 and it was easily Hearing safe with 38spl bunny farts. 357 mag supers were loud at the shooters ear. The 9mm can was much better for keeping the crack downrange. Btw, based on your username, you already have bullets on hand for the 77/357? |
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I would go with a 9mm can over a 45 if quiet is high on your list. It's kind of like putting a 3" pipe exhaust on a Honda. That said, I have used my 45 can on my 77/357 and it was easily Hearing safe with 38spl bunny farts. 357 mag supers were loud at the shooters ear. The 9mm can was much better for keeping the crack downrange. Btw, based on your username, you already have bullets on hand for the 77/357? View Quote Thanks. What about a SilencerCo Hybrid, using a 9mm end cap? |
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I would go with a 9mm can over a 45 if quiet is high on your list. It's kind of like putting a 3" pipe exhaust on a Honda. That said, I have used my 45 can on my 77/357 and it was easily Hearing safe with 38spl bunny farts. 357 mag supers were loud at the shooters ear. The 9mm can was much better for keeping the crack downrange. Btw, based on your username, you already have bullets on hand for the 77/357? Thanks. What about a SilencerCo Hybrid, using a 9mm end cap? Won't be as quiet (but probably a minimal difference IMO) but wouldn't have any pressure issues. |
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http://rs215.pbsrc.com/albums/cc280/bleurgh_bucket/facepalm.jpg~c200 It's been one of those days. Anyhow, it probably won't be as quiet as a 9mm can because of more gas passing through the baffles, but it would get restricted by the end cap. So I can't imagine it would be a huge noise difference. Out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone has tested that with a db meter. Personally I'm looking at multi caliber cans myself, but am strongly leaning towards the Mystic-X since odds are I'm not going to have anything in larger than a .357 bullet for a while, but it'll take 9mm, 223, etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Won't be as quiet (but probably a minimal difference IMO) but wouldn't have any pressure issues. As quiet as what? http://rs215.pbsrc.com/albums/cc280/bleurgh_bucket/facepalm.jpg~c200 It's been one of those days. Anyhow, it probably won't be as quiet as a 9mm can because of more gas passing through the baffles, but it would get restricted by the end cap. So I can't imagine it would be a huge noise difference. Out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone has tested that with a db meter. Personally I'm looking at multi caliber cans myself, but am strongly leaning towards the Mystic-X since odds are I'm not going to have anything in larger than a .357 bullet for a while, but it'll take 9mm, 223, etc. Hard to beat the Mystic for a carbine can, that's a fact. |
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Won't be as quiet (but probably a minimal difference IMO) but wouldn't have any pressure issues. As quiet as what? http://rs215.pbsrc.com/albums/cc280/bleurgh_bucket/facepalm.jpg~c200 It's been one of those days. Anyhow, it probably won't be as quiet as a 9mm can because of more gas passing through the baffles, but it would get restricted by the end cap. So I can't imagine it would be a huge noise difference. Out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone has tested that with a db meter. Personally I'm looking at multi caliber cans myself, but am strongly leaning towards the Mystic-X since odds are I'm not going to have anything in larger than a .357 bullet for a while, but it'll take 9mm, 223, etc. Hard to beat the Mystic for a carbine can, that's a fact. That's my thought. It'll pretty much live on the 77/357 after I get it SBR'd. Then when I can afford a Ron Williams .357 mag 10.5" AR upper it'll swap between them. I have a strange love of .357 Will probably go with an 11" bbl so the end of the trilug is even with the end of the stock. No worries about damaging the wood that way. That or I'll just open the inlet a touch more and embed a sacrificial thin section of steel to protect the wood. Donno yet. Figure I have a good while to think about it before I'll have the money anyhow. |
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