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This has not been our experience. CCI standard velocity has remained subsonic in all of our usage in a Ruger 10/22 or a Ruger 77/22.
The CCI Subsonic I have 2 boxes of both say that the bullet is 45 grains. This is heavier than the standard ammo which has 40 grain bullets, and it remains subsonic in a rifle.
BTW, our (Gemtech) .22LR subsonic uses a 42 gr projectile and remains subsonic in everything we have tried.
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You're comparing apples to oranges. You say that Bulk Pack has a sonic crack... well most bulk pack is high velocity. The CCI Subsonic is nice, but it uses a lighter bullet and standard powders. The CCI Stnadard velocity is good for pistols, but supersonic in rifles. CCI Suppressor uses clean burning powders and a heavier bullet so it's more reliable in rifles AND pistols and harder hitting with the heavier bullet, not to mention cleaner for both the gun and the can.
This has not been our experience. CCI standard velocity has remained subsonic in all of our usage in a Ruger 10/22 or a Ruger 77/22.
The CCI Subsonic I have 2 boxes of both say that the bullet is 45 grains. This is heavier than the standard ammo which has 40 grain bullets, and it remains subsonic in a rifle.
BTW, our (Gemtech) .22LR subsonic uses a 42 gr projectile and remains subsonic in everything we have tried.
You must either be mistaken or you are privy to a special load that the general public is not. I was talking about this product:
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CCI Subsonic (at Midway)
and this product:
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CCI Standard Velocity (at Midway)
and I looked here:
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CCI Product Page with all CCI loads
and it said that there are no .22lr loads with a 45gr bullet. They have one in their American Eagle Suppressor product line (as I noted above) here:
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Federal Product Page with all Federal Loads
All that said, it is nice that all of your .22 loads that are supposed to be subsonic are REALLY subsonic. I have had different results. MOST of the CCI Standard Velocity rounds were subsonic from an 18" barrel. That's not good enough for me... Some were means that some WERE NOT! Rated velocity of 1070 means that supersonic velocities were within the SD and extreme spread. Pistols will be subsonic. Rifles, not always.
Now, for the 42gr loads your company makes, I am all for that, but I hesitate to pull the proverbial trigger because they are lead. If they were available, I would buy them... don't get me wrong... but if I had my choice, the American Eagle Suppressor seems to have all of the best attributes of a good suppressable load: copper-plated bullet, clean burning powder, bullet weight that standard guns can stabilize but will still have energy on target, and reliably subsonic velocities in my rifle. Now, if I can just find anybody with them in stock. I think Gemtech's load is a great idea, but I haven't been able to get my hands on either it or Winchester's 42 grain load. Sneaking suspicion that Winchester might be making the Gemtech-branded loads as Winchester's 42 gr hollow point looks pretty similar to Gemtech's round nose. I'm okay with that, just MAKE MORE!