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Posted: 9/8/2014 8:28:04 PM EDT
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DO realize that most rifle silencers do NOT make your rifle hearing safe.
DON'T shoot 22 out of a centerfire can. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 8:36:10 PM EDT
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 10:26:44 PM EDT
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make sure it's nice and tight when you mount the can onto the mb or thread!
My can got hot last week on the range and I failed to tightenten it until it locked. Well, guess what, the can launched about 20 feet when I was shooting a SBR in 6.8spc. It guess it could not take the back pressure. Luckily, no baffle strike, the can got a little dirty and lost some pride. I was glad the Silencerco Specwar held up and its a testament to the engineering design. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 10:38:41 PM EDT
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Don't buy on impulse!! Research and make sure you buy the can you want, not just what's in stock?!!
Don't judge suppression levels by a video? Don't feel bad...I've melted some shit before too!! |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 10:57:53 PM EDT
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Don't think you can just buy one.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 11:04:34 PM EDT
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Don't think you can just buy one.
That's the truth! |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 11:30:35 PM EDT
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered. 
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 12:43:00 AM EDT
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That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 2:24:25 AM EDT
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Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm I had never thought of that! I would have burnt the crap out of myself. Any idea what the covers are made of? I'm hoping ther aren't so,thing like asbestos. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:30:43 AM EDT
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Well back in the day, they just used Nomex. I think my welding gloves are made of Kevlar.
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Posted: 9/9/2014 4:05:43 AM EDT
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That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Control the rifle with your support hand, pointing muzzle down as you draw and fire with the strong hand. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 7:03:45 AM EDT
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Do NOT let price be your deciding factor.
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Posted: 9/9/2014 7:08:14 AM EDT
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dont buy the first one........ just walk away
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Posted: 9/9/2014 1:31:04 PM EDT
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Do not think that the one pistol can and one rifle can and then interchange those between guns and calibers will suffice.
Do know, that once you buy a can, you will buy more cans, number 4 and 5 are in jail, and deciding on #6. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 1:51:06 PM EDT
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OST for a great thread.
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Posted: 9/9/2014 2:01:06 PM EDT
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DON'T shoot 22 out of a centerfire can. Nonsense. DO realize that is only a problem if you then shoot centerfire without thoroughly cleaning the can. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 2:25:45 PM EDT
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Nonsense. DO realize that is only a problem if you then shoot centerfire without thoroughly cleaning the can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DON'T shoot 22 out of a centerfire can. Nonsense. DO realize that is only a problem if you then shoot centerfire without thoroughly cleaning the can. Agreed, as long as you have the ability to clean the can. 
DO read ADCO's article about barrel threads and POI shift: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_130/158403_Barrel_threads_are_barrel_threads_____or_are_they__POI_Shift.html |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:07:53 PM EDT
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Control the rifle with your support hand, pointing muzzle down as you draw and fire with the strong hand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Control the rifle with your support hand, pointing muzzle down as you draw and fire with the strong hand. This. Or be aware of what the muzzle is doing on the transition. The can covers do help. However all of the can covers get hot and will still burn you, just not as fast or as badly as a bare hot can. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:21:39 PM EDT
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Don't set a hot can down in tall dry grass. That was impressive!
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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:26:51 PM EDT
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DO realize that a heavier suppressor will change the POI shift more on a free float barrel than a non free float barrel.
DO make sure a direct thread suppressor is locked down with Rocksett or some other method. 1/4 turn is all it takes for a baffle strike. DO make sure you realize your rifle will run different with a silencer and you may need to modify it. I changed to an H2 buffer, drilled an hole in the charging handle to help vent excess gas and used RTV to seal the back of it. It still gets very dirty, its unavoidable even on a piston gun. YMMV , this is from my experience anyways. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 3:37:36 PM EDT
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Do - think about wearing gloves while shooting with a suppressor, not for just the heat but how dirty your hands will get. It only takes a small amount of carbon in your system to cause health issues.
I believe someone above listed it but.. Do - run with a heavier buffer, H2 or H3, the reason being the bolt carrier assembly is operating at excessive speed, mine wouldn't lock up after the last round. 20 posts and no one did this one?? DO - bring lots of ammo, double when shooting with friends, you'll become the life of the party. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 5:37:09 PM EDT
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Do keep a copy of your trust and forms on your phone.
Don't forget that just because the round is quieter that it is any less deadly. |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:07:47 PM EDT
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Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm DO wear proper protective gear. If you are doing tactical shooting, including transitions between rifle and pistol you should be wearing long pants. Really no need for one of those covers if you plan appropriately. Along with pants sturdy shoes, gloves and ear pro should be worn as well (even suppressed 5.56 can cause hearing damage, especially if youre shooting a full auto.) |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:17:19 PM EDT
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Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Pants  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:58:18 PM EDT
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When running a suppressed rifle, do not let the rifle "just drop" on sling for a pistol transition. The hot can will find the side of you leg, or the back of your calf. That is a great point I has not considered.
I put in some 5320.20s so I could take my SBR+can training, but how do transition to a pistol without burning yourself when running a can? Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Pants
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Pants help. However, those nylon light weights sure do melt, and cotton sure does burn. Good luck |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 3:47:30 AM EDT
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Do Not trust an oven mitt to take off a hot can, I melted a silver oven mitt all over my 5.56 can.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 9:23:43 AM EDT
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Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Pants
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Pants help. However, those nylon light weights sure do melt, and cotton sure does burn. Good luck get both |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 11:31:24 AM EDT
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Don't do extensive, high-volume shooting with a suppressor cover on your can.
They need to dump the heat. |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 2:59:00 PM EDT
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DO make sure that if WHEN you have two or more cans that are very similar in size but different calibers (762SDN6 & M4-2000), that you grab the correct one for the caliber of the gun you are headed to the range with!
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Posted: 9/10/2014 6:05:34 PM EDT
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DON'T - just set the rifle down anywhere. I melted a flap to my range bag and a section of carpet in about .5 seconds. I learned this the hard way too, sorta... The day I got my full auto krinkov I took it to the range and ran 6 mags in a row, it started to storm just as I finished the last mag so I hurried up and packed up. When I got home and opened the case I had the outline of the flash hider melted into the inside. I still haven't been able to get the burned nylon off of it, even with a couple thousand rounds through it. 
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Posted: 9/10/2014 10:32:46 PM EDT
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dont buy the first one........ just walk away or $99 suppressors...... |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 12:04:44 AM EDT
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DON'T think that just because a dealer sells NFA items he is any less full of shit than they guys behind the counter at gander mountain. A lot of the time NFA dealers know what they are talking about but I have met some dipshits.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 6:57:07 PM EDT
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Do not let the fact that you don't have a host for that suppresor stop you from buying it.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:34:09 PM EDT
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Put a cover or sleeve on the suppressor. Some people make ones that will stand up to higher rates of fire. Two that I know of.. https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/ftw-gear/ftw-suppressor-cover.html http://www.griffonindustries.com/product_p/gi-suppressor-hmms-01.htm Pants
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Pants help. However, those nylon light weights sure do melt, and cotton sure does burn. Good luck get both The covers also help with mirage when using magnified optics. Also, I'm sure it makes sense to pull back the cover or take it off when not shooting to not contain the heat and help the can cool. Pants of course will help, but it is ARFcom. Gotta have both! |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 7:37:38 PM EDT
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DON'T think that because that just because a dealer sells NFA items he is any less full of shit than they guys behind the counter at gander mountain. A lot of the time NFA dealers know what they are talking about but I have met some dipshits. Huh? |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 1:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: DON'T think that just because a dealer sells NFA items he is any less full of shit than they guys behind the counter at gander mountain. A lot of the time NFA dealers know what they are talking about but I have met some dipshits. Huh? |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 8:33:38 PM EDT
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Cheap leather welding gloves are not able to take the heat.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:11:53 AM EDT
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Slight hijack...
Lots of examples of what gloves/mitts don't work, how about an economical recommendation for something that does work? I've got about five more months to wait. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:13:33 AM EDT
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Slight hijack... Lots of examples of what gloves/mitts don't work, how about an economical recommendation for something that does work? I've got about five more months to wait. Good question. I've wondered about silicone oven mitts holding up |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:44:51 AM EDT
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Slight hijack... Lots of examples of what gloves/mitts don't work, how about an economical recommendation for something that does work? I've got about five more months to wait. Ove Glove, sold at Walmart. Made in South Korea. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 2:03:01 AM EDT
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DO Shoot with friends and educate as many people as you can about your suppressor and other NFA items. More friends in the fight is how we overcome myths and NFA fiction.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 2:42:40 AM EDT
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Subscribed.
I'm contemplating my first purchase. It's for a 16" AR. Supersonics exclusively, any suggestions? |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:02:19 PM EDT
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DON'T take your wife's favorite oven mitt to the range to remove hot can with, she will get very upset. Don't even ask how I know.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:28:18 PM EDT
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Slight hijack... Lots of examples of what gloves/mitts don't work, how about an economical recommendation for something that does work? I've got about five more months to wait. Ove Glove, sold at Walmart. Made in South Korea. Thanks. I'll pick one up on my next monthly trip to Walmart. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:15:36 PM EDT
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Don't think you can just buy one.
I am finding that out the hard way. Just like BRD. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:21:43 PM EDT
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Don't think you can just buy one.
I am finding that out the hard way. Just like BRD. I'm working on refining my "I need a pistol suppressor, the one I just got is only good for rifles" speech. I've got some time while my bank account recovers. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:09:03 PM EDT
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Do not let the fact that you don't have a host for that suppresor stop you from buying it. Guilty Now I have 2 hosts, and the can still in jail. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 12:07:17 PM EDT
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DO understand after you get that first stamp, ANY firearm that you contemplate buying/building will unconsciously be subjected to a new criteria....."Is it suppressible.....?"
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Posted: 9/16/2014 6:16:06 PM EDT
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And you will be wanting to thread weapons or do whatever is necessary to make those that you already own work with a suppressor.
*Disclaimer, I don't actually have a suppressor in my possession yet. However, I am changing a few things around so it will work on almost all of my rifles. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:22:55 PM EDT
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Slight hijack... Lots of examples of what gloves/mitts don't work, how about an economical recommendation for something that does work? I've got about five more months to wait. Ove Glove, sold at Walmart. Made in South Korea. Thanks. I'll pick one up on my next monthly trip to Walmart. Buy 2, you'll thank me later. Spouse gave me the worn ones. I applied some more silicone beads across the palm & fingers. The Blue silicone mitts work great. Get more looks for those than the toys. |
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