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Posted: 7/30/2014 5:52:44 AM EDT
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separate
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Posted: 7/30/2014 6:13:55 AM EDT
[#2]
Poll fail. Can't vote for more than one option.
I have more than one can, so... 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:11:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:19:01 AM EDT
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seperate
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:22:22 AM EDT
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I never even take my m4-2000 off the host., Just leave it dirty and throw it back in the safe.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 8:29:22 AM EDT
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I never even take my m4-2000 SOCOM Mini off the host., Just leave it dirty and throw it back in the safe. Same here |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 9:11:29 AM EDT
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I keep my AAC Omni on my dedicated HD SBR all of the time... every other can gets stored in one of the bigger safes and not attached to any hosts.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 9:54:22 AM EDT
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I saw recently on silencertalk that leaving a dirty can on the host weapon can cause the bore to rust. They recommended cleaning can and host gun after every shooting session….
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Posted: 7/30/2014 10:11:55 AM EDT
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I leave them on the pointy end of the gun.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 10:27:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw recently on silencertalk that leaving a dirty can on the host weapon can cause the bore to rust. They recommended cleaning can and host gun after every shooting session….  Fuck it, the gun its on has almost 50k through it. Needs a new barrel anyways.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 10:47:47 AM EDT
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Dirty, on gun, muzzle up.
Also, I didn't realize that one actually "cleaned" centerfire rifle cans. I mean, I understand that it can theoretically be done with solvents and compressed air, but I don't think it's necessary. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 10:48:24 AM EDT
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I saw recently on silencertalk that leaving a dirty can on the host weapon can cause the bore to rust. They recommended cleaning can and host gun after every shooting session…. Who was "they" and what was the reasoning? |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 10:51:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dirty, on gun, muzzle up. Also, I didn't realize that one actually "cleaned" centerfire rifle cans. I mean, I understand that it can theoretically be done with solvents and compressed air, but I don't think it's necessary. It's not
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Posted: 7/30/2014 11:17:24 AM EDT
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http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100012&start=25
Quote HistoryCorrosion was the concern, iirc. I ask because I wabt to know if storing my sbr with suppressor attached and ready to go is harmful in any way.
Yes, the suppressor can trap in the humidity and corrosion can take place, not just in the suppressor but the weapon itself. I don't know how much corrosion would happen because I would never store a can on a firearm. What I do know is that a suppressor is designed to keep gases in, so why wouldn't it hold humidity? Moisture Accumulation and Weapon Storage Water is a major byproduct of gunpowder combustion. A good suppressor will capture and retain a considerable amount of the liquid. Twenty shots from a .308 will cause about a teaspoonful of water to be captured. Whenever possible, the weapon should be carried and stored with the muzzle pointing straight down. The bolt or action should remain open to allow accumulated water to evaporate and vent. If the suppressor is removed as soon as the shooting stops, heat in the suppressor will rapidly dry most of the internal components. Unfortunately, most rifles are traditionally stored muzzle-up. This causes water and trapped particulates to slowly release, where they will fall and lodge in the chamber area and bolt face. Burned gunpowder is quite dirty, and the inside of a suppressor is usually filthy. Cleaning is best accomplished by flushing the can in solvent, draining, and blowing the unit out with compressed air. One should get in the habit of storing a suppressed rifle by hanging it, muzzle-down. Even stainless steel components will rust if trapped water is not allowed to vent. This may result in a suppressor rusted tightly to its barrel. A bore with rust near its muzzle may lose its accuracy. Corrosion can occur quickly in a warm, moist environment. This is not an aspect to be ignored. 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:16:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100012&start=25 Corrosion was the concern, iirc. I ask because I wabt to know if storing my sbr with suppressor attached and ready to go is harmful in any way.
Yes, the suppressor can trap in the humidity and corrosion can take place, not just in the suppressor but the weapon itself. I don't know how much corrosion would happen because I would never store a can on a firearm. What I do know is that a suppressor is designed to keep gases in, so why wouldn't it hold humidity? Moisture Accumulation and Weapon Storage Water is a major byproduct of gunpowder combustion. A good suppressor will capture and retain a considerable amount of the liquid. Twenty shots from a .308 will cause about a teaspoonful of water to be captured. Whenever possible, the weapon should be carried and stored with the muzzle pointing straight down. The bolt or action should remain open to allow accumulated water to evaporate and vent. If the suppressor is removed as soon as the shooting stops, heat in the suppressor will rapidly dry most of the internal components. Unfortunately, most rifles are traditionally stored muzzle-up. This causes water and trapped particulates to slowly release, where they will fall and lodge in the chamber area and bolt face. Burned gunpowder is quite dirty, and the inside of a suppressor is usually filthy. Cleaning is best accomplished by flushing the can in solvent, draining, and blowing the unit out with compressed air. One should get in the habit of storing a suppressed rifle by hanging it, muzzle-down. Even stainless steel components will rust if trapped water is not allowed to vent. This may result in a suppressor rusted tightly to its barrel. A bore with rust near its muzzle may lose its accuracy. Corrosion can occur quickly in a warm, moist environment. This is not an aspect to be ignored. I can confirm that my cans do condense water after just a couple of shots. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:23:25 PM EDT
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I'm so lazy about taking one most of my cans off, it won't come off anymore even if I wanted it to... Too much full auto and lack of maintenance. Gonna have to send it back to the mfg and see if they can get it off it's QD mount.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:25:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can confirm that my cans do condense water after just a couple of shots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100012&start=25 Corrosion was the concern, iirc. I ask because I wabt to know if storing my sbr with suppressor attached and ready to go is harmful in any way. Yes, the suppressor can trap in the humidity and corrosion can take place, not just in the suppressor but the weapon itself. I don't know how much corrosion would happen because I would never store a can on a firearm. What I do know is that a suppressor is designed to keep gases in, so why wouldn't it hold humidity? Moisture Accumulation and Weapon Storage Water is a major byproduct of gunpowder combustion. A good suppressor will capture and retain a considerable amount of the liquid. Twenty shots from a .308 will cause about a teaspoonful of water to be captured. Whenever possible, the weapon should be carried and stored with the muzzle pointing straight down. The bolt or action should remain open to allow accumulated water to evaporate and vent. If the suppressor is removed as soon as the shooting stops, heat in the suppressor will rapidly dry most of the internal components. Unfortunately, most rifles are traditionally stored muzzle-up. This causes water and trapped particulates to slowly release, where they will fall and lodge in the chamber area and bolt face. Burned gunpowder is quite dirty, and the inside of a suppressor is usually filthy. Cleaning is best accomplished by flushing the can in solvent, draining, and blowing the unit out with compressed air. One should get in the habit of storing a suppressed rifle by hanging it, muzzle-down. Even stainless steel components will rust if trapped water is not allowed to vent. This may result in a suppressor rusted tightly to its barrel. A bore with rust near its muzzle may lose its accuracy. Corrosion can occur quickly in a warm, moist environment. This is not an aspect to be ignored. I can confirm that my cans do condense water after just a couple of shots. Keep shooting them. if water is staying on your can, you don't shoot enough
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:26:36 PM EDT
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How does my can hold humidity when it's freaking 700 degrees and I'm getting tired of waiting for it to cool down so I can pack it up and leave the range?
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:13:53 PM EDT
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Seperate and dirty, who cleans cans?
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:30:42 PM EDT
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How does my can hold humidity when it's freaking 700 degrees and I'm getting tired of waiting for it to cool down so I can pack it up and leave the range? After it cools down enough put it in a glass jar and watch it Sweat several hours after. A non stainless muffler on a car tends to rott from the inside instead of the outside in a dry state. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 2:51:01 PM EDT
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Seperate from rifle/handgun and in their own pouch.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 2:59:10 PM EDT
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Seperate from rifle/handgun and in their own pouch. Same here. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 6:45:37 PM EDT
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Pelican case with various pistons inside.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 7:36:00 PM EDT
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Separate.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 4:39:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2014 5:42:21 AM EDT
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<a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a> So beautiful....should have sent a poet... |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 6:04:31 AM EDT
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How does my can hold humidity when it's freaking 700 degrees and I'm getting tired of waiting for it to cool down so I can pack it up and leave the range? The better question is - why does your can have magical properties that cause it to form condensation inside, when the rest of the metal stuff in your safe doesn't? If the surface temp of your guns - to include the suppressor(s), barrels, receivers, bolts, etc. - is below the dew point of the air surrounding them, then condensation will form. You prevent this by doing things like using air conditioning to reduce humidity and using dessication methods inside of your safe. I can see this being an issue if your guns are outside on a cold day in the winter, and you throw them right into the safe in the nice, warm house. But that's not an issue endemic to suppressors. It applies to any cold thing that you suddenly move into a warmer environment. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 6:04:58 AM EDT
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<a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a> WOW  
I have a long way to go 
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Posted: 7/31/2014 6:06:48 AM EDT
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How does my can hold humidity when it's freaking 700 degrees and I'm getting tired of waiting for it to cool down so I can pack it up and leave the range? The better question is - why does your can have magical properties that cause it to form condensation inside, when the rest of the metal stuff in your safe doesn't? If the surface temp of your guns - to include the suppressor(s), barrels, receivers, bolts, etc. - is below the dew point of the air surrounding them, then condensation will form. You prevent this by doing things like using air conditioning to reduce humidity and using dessication methods inside of your safe. I can see this being an issue if your guns are outside on a cold day in the winter, and you throw them right into the safe in the nice, warm house. But that's not an issue endemic to suppressors. It applies to any cold thing that you suddenly move into a warmer environment. As far as moisture being a byproduct of gunfire ... the claim that 20 shots of .308 forms a teaspoon (5 mL) seems way off. Maybe the equations say it forms that much, but there ain't 5cc of water inside a can after 20 shots. If there were, your can would be steaming like Old Faithful. It's going to get blown out the exit hole and/or boiled off pretty fast. |
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Posted: 7/31/2014 6:52:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
<a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a> You, my friend, have won. I bow to you. Fuckin WOW.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 11:07:14 AM EDT
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<a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a> NICE!! Did we just become best friends?! lol
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Posted: 8/1/2014 7:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts... |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:03:28 AM EDT
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Thanks for the comments, and I never said I was done.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:28:55 AM EDT
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You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts... Quote HistoryQuoted:
You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts...
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:46:56 AM EDT
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Mine live in pouches on the inner surface of my safe door, under the rows of handguns.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 8:26:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts... Holy shitfuck. I dig your style, man. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 8:40:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts...  |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 8:55:40 AM EDT
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I store everything off the weapon. Picked up a 3 drawer cabinet that holds rimfire suppressors in one drawer, centerfire pistol in another and centerfire rifle in the third. Tackle boxes with pistons and mounts and other accessories sit beside it.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 1:41:10 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a>
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Posted: 8/2/2014 3:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts... Quote HistoryQuoted:
You are not done yet. I just got done ordering 16 new cans to replace my old cans. I tried to order 20 but 4 weren't available yet. And I already have another two more cans I need to put on order. It doesn't end. I'm not looking forward to $3200 in transfer fees. And then there are the mounts... Were the old cans lost in a terrible boating accident?
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Posted: 8/2/2014 3:28:20 PM EDT
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Cans in cases. Do you keep some dessicant packs in the cases? |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDo you keep some dessicant packs in the cases? Negative |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:42:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WOW I have a long way to go Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: <a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a> WOW I have a long way to go I'm actually more impressed at all of those pistons |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 8:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the old cans lost in a terrible boating accident? No, they are all just really old from back when I was a C3 dealer. My pistol cans are Gemtech "SOS" for instance. Generations of technology ago. And I am so lazy I know my M4-96D won't come off (pre runner to the Gemtech G5) it's mount anymore, and I don't know about a KAC Navy can I have on a factory MP5SD, as well as an SRT Commanche that even if I did get off, I doubt I could pull the baffle stack out of it to clean it, since I NEVER have, and I shoot that in full auto on a rimfire uppered M16. In the last year or so I met my first shooting friend in NV, where my second home is. Like slipjett he is a suppressor freak and has over 30 cans. Great to meet likeminded people. He taught me a lot I needed to know before ordering a new wave of suppressors and upgrading my old crap. But back to the OP - I'm so lazy in not pulling my cans off when storing, I fear more than one has become "integral"... I swear that once I get my new cans, I promise to make more effort to pull them off when storing and keep my mounts clean, as well as servicing my cans. Like slipjett's picture, I am really digging Engineer's pic. Gear is organized, stored properly, and compartments labeled? I find that extremely sexy. The picture pleases my anal/OCD nature (which I prefer to call dedication). |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 8:36:25 PM EDT
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Clean the gun, not the silencer, store it flat.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 9:16:10 PM EDT
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After a shooting session I remove and reattach to ensure my suppressors with quick attach don't become carbon welded. Get everything in rifle/range bags and then store on hosts horizontally (no poll option). Suppressors that are user serviceable are cleaned at sufficient intervals in a blast cabinet with soda media. For hosts I don't clean every time I shoot, quick wipe down and bore snake. Detail cleaning happens every month or three. Gets tedious detail cleaning 4-15:hosts and suppressors every range or comp session.
Once upon a time I was in comms with slipjet about suppressors. I like where you went with the addiction 
Congrats on your $3200 of inbound stamps Mike I think you made some really good choices.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 4:13:57 AM EDT
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^^^^^^^My suppressor sensei and his tag line, 'Suppress Everything'
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Posted: 8/3/2014 4:33:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
<a href="http://s680.photobucket.com/user/slipjett/media/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/slipjett/IMG_6306_zpscf6066a8.jpg</a> this is awesome |
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Posted: 8/3/2014 4:39:04 AM EDT
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My G5 lives on my "bump in the night" rifle.
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Posted: 8/3/2014 8:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once upon a time I was in comms with slipjet about suppressors. I like where you went with the addiction Congrats on your $3200 of inbound stamps Mike I think you made some really good choices.Thanks to you, John - and now I have three more suppressors I want to order since then. We need to discuss. John is my suppressor sensei as well. Seriously, you truly are the cause of hundreds of suppressor sales both privately and professionally. It's like you are patient zero. Just how many more will you infect? I have had guns rust that were stored in open cell foamed bags and cases that were exposed to humidity. So far, in throwing my gun with can on into the case and leaving it stored that way, horizontal or upright, I haven't noticed any rust from humidity/condensation.
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