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Posted: 4/1/2016 9:23:23 AM EDT
[#1]
Capitol Armory
Purchase 11/24 Sent 11/24 Received 12/9 Pending 12-16 APPROVED 3/28 Stamp received ??????? |
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Posted: 4/1/2016 10:11:28 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tex7488:
Capitol Armory Purchase 11/24 Sent 11/24 Received 12/9 Pending 12-16 APPROVED 3/28 Stamp received ??????? I too have a 12/9 pending that was bought from Capitol Armory! This is getting me excited. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2016 10:18:22 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTran555:
I too have a 12/9 pending that was bought from Capitol Armory! This is getting me excited. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTran555:
Originally Posted By tex7488:
Capitol Armory Purchase 11/24 Sent 11/24 Received 12/9 Pending 12-16 APPROVED 3/28 Stamp received ??????? I too have a 12/9 pending that was bought from Capitol Armory! This is getting me excited. 12/8. pending here. Hoping to get an approval and stamp in hand within the next 4 weeks. |
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Posted: 4/1/2016 11:07:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Silencerco Omega
Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16! Stamp arrived: TBD |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2016 2:11:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cfincke]
[#5]
Deadair Sandman - L
Trust using Silencer Shop Direct Form 3: 10/30/2015 Form 3 Approved : 12/29/15 Form 4 Check Cashed: 11/18/15 Form 4 Approved: 3/18/16 Stamp arrived: 4/1/16 |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2016 9:37:54 AM EDT
[#6]
Silencerco Hybrid Form 4 Trust Mailed: 03/26 Check Cashed:*** Pending: *** Approved: *** Stamp arrived: *** |
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Posted: 4/2/2016 10:19:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Silencerco Omega Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16! Stamp arrived: TBD I picked up my stamp and suppressor today. Approval date was 3/18. You should be any day |
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Posted: 4/2/2016 10:20:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cfincke:
Deadair Sandman - L Trust using Silencer Shop Direct Form 3: 10/30/2015 Form 3 Approved : 12/29/15 Form 4 Check Cashed: 11/18/15 Form 4 Approved: 3/18/16 Stamp arrived: 4/1/16 Crazy! This is me, exactly! Only difference is mine is a Sandman-S, dates are exactly the same. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/4/2016 3:23:29 AM EDT
[#9]
Oh just sitting here with a beer waiting on the approval and stampage. Hows everyone else?
Went to the local gun shop today and noticed they had a variety of deadair Sandman's in stock and will be getting more. Kinda was thinking about buying one for my 308. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2016 11:53:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Packman]
[#10]
Capitol Armory: Surefire Socom 556 RC2
Purchase 11/27 Sent 11/27 Pending 12/9 APPROVED 4/2 Stamp received: April 21st!!!!!! 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2016 2:25:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Silencerco specwar 556k
Dealer - Silencer Shop Purchased- 11-7 Form 3 - 11-10, resubmitted form 3 - 11-22 Can arrived at dealer - 1-19 Check cashed - 12-1 Approved - 3-30 Stamp arrived - 4-4 |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 3:09:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CKyleC:
I picked up my stamp and suppressor today. Approval date was 3/18. You should be any day Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CKyleC:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Silencerco Omega Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16! Stamp arrived: TBD I picked up my stamp and suppressor today. Approval date was 3/18. You should be any day I hope so, the wait is especially tough now that it's approved. |
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Posted: 4/4/2016 9:42:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
I hope so, the wait is especially tough now that it's approved. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Originally Posted By CKyleC:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Silencerco Omega Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16! Stamp arrived: TBD I picked up my stamp and suppressor today. Approval date was 3/18. You should be any day I hope so, the wait is especially tough now that it's approved. I bet. I was never notified of my approval. I was just told when my stamp arrived. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/5/2016 12:04:50 AM EDT
[#14]
Purchased AAC 556 and 762 can on 11/29/15 (Capitol armory)
Form 4 mailed that day Received 12/5/15 Approved and got stamp back 4/4/16 |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 10:47:22 AM EDT
[#15]
wow, suppressors are taking forever to get approved..... I have a 1/5/16 waiting approval, looks like it will still be a while :(
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2016 12:45:49 PM EDT
[#16]
Specwar 556K
Trust form 4 Check Cashed 12/7 Pending 12/8 Approved 4/4 Received? |
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Posted: 4/5/2016 4:22:10 PM EDT
[#17]
1. NFA Item: Suppressor 2. Form Type: Form 4 3. Transferee Type: Trust 4. Purchased: Nov 24, 2015 5. Card Charged: Unsure 6. Pending Date: Unsure 7. Approved Date: Unsure (never called) 8. Forms Received @ Dealer: Apr 5, 2016 132 days from buying on the website to Form 4 arriving at dealer
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Posted: 4/6/2016 1:17:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#18]
Looks like November guys are getting theirs. I was a February 10 purchase.....it's gonna be a while
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Posted: 4/6/2016 5:30:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By donnieR32:
Looks like November guys are getting theirs. I was a February 10 purchase.....it's gonna be a while It ain't all that bad. Just a few more months. 2/17-ish here. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 6:21:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
It ain't all that bad. Just a few more months. 2/17-ish here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Originally Posted By donnieR32:
Looks like November guys are getting theirs. I was a February 10 purchase.....it's gonna be a while It ain't all that bad. Just a few more months. 2/17-ish here. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 6:58:37 PM EDT
[#21]
I sure hope not.
I have Form 4s submitted on 11/30, 12/15, 1/7, and 2/7 I'm still waiting on. |
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Posted: 4/6/2016 8:11:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hater:
You don't think times will stretch out a little for post-New Year submissions? After the final announcement of 41P? Inventory levels tell me there's been a bit of a run on suppressors since 1/06/2016. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hater:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Originally Posted By donnieR32:
Looks like November guys are getting theirs. I was a February 10 purchase.....it's gonna be a while It ain't all that bad. Just a few more months. 2/17-ish here. I prefer not to dwell on those sort of issues. 
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Posted: 4/6/2016 10:23:22 PM EDT
[#23]
From 4 approval to received was about 7 days for me. Approved last week 3/30 and got to the dealer today.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2016 11:10:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CDDD:
AAC 45M Ordered from CA 11/21 Form 4 Approved 3/25 AAC 762-SD Ordered from CA 11/27 Form 4 Approved 3/29    My stamp for the 7.62-SD arrived on Monday, still waiting on the other one. 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2016 8:16:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: synthwave]
[#25]
Item: Suppressor - SilencerCo Hybrid
Method: F3/F4/Trust Purchased: 01-19-2016 Form 3 sent: 01-20-2016 Form 3 approved: 04-01-2016 Form 4 mailed: 04-05-2016 Check cashed: 04-12-2016 Pending: Approved: Date it arrived in the mail: Examiner: |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 4:39:24 PM EDT
[#26]
I am waiting on a form 4 from the week of Thanksgiving, so it looks like any day now. Only 5 suppressors to get stamps back. I really hate the wait.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:09:15 PM EDT
[#27]
Why does it feel like form 4 wait times are going up while form 1 is going down?
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:12:44 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pxl5: Why does it feel like form 4 wait times are going up while form 1 is going down? And all Form 4's are snail mail to Atlanta first, and then probably have to be sorted, unstapled, scanned, etc.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:13:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pxl5:
Why does it feel like form 4 wait times are going up while form 1 is going down? Because they are. But like Waylon said. They could change the focus of the workload at any time |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2016 1:19:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Form 1 for SBS 1/05/2016 - received 04/08/2016
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USA
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Posted: 4/8/2016 10:35:11 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pxl5:
Why does it feel like form 4 wait times are going up while form 1 is going down? I feel that way too. I look down nfa tracker page and see one suppressor approval/stamp grouped with like 4 or more sbrs for the same day. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2016 11:50:14 PM EDT
[#32]
Suppressor F4 Trust
Purchase 11/24/15 Check cashed 12/15/15 Soon ? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2016 11:58:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Midnit:
I feel that way too. I look down nfa tracker page and see one suppressor approval/stamp grouped with like 4 or more sbrs for the same day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Midnit:
Originally Posted By pxl5:
Why does it feel like form 4 wait times are going up while form 1 is going down? I feel that way too. I look down nfa tracker page and see one suppressor approval/stamp grouped with like 4 or more sbrs for the same day. I think people are dumping their spare cash into suppressors right now. With eforms all I have to do is click send by July for the SBR's, more of a guessing game with the paper from 3/4's. |
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Posted: 4/10/2016 3:32:54 PM EDT
[#34]
I did a Form 4 on a Gemtech Tundra back in February and I just did a Form 4 on a Surefire Ryder-22 on Friday.
Form 4's are better than Form 1's in my opinion. I can log in to ATF e-Froms daily and check the status of my Form 1s, but I can't check the status on my Form 4s. Being able to check the status makes it worse.  |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 12:07:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Augee]
[#35]
Surefire FA556-212-TN
Form 3 submitted: ~15 February Form 3 approved: 08 April Arrival at Dealer: _____________ Form 4 submitted: _____________ Form 4 approved: _____________ Take possession: _____________ ~Augee |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 1:00:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Silencerco Omega Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16 Stamp arrived: 04/09/16 Stamp arrived at dealer on Sat. Unfortunately, got I delayed on the NICS check. Talk about a kick in the nuts... 
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Posted: 4/11/2016 1:46:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Stamp arrived at dealer on Sat. Unfortunately, got I delayed on the NICS check. Talk about a kick in the nuts... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Silencerco Omega Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16 Stamp arrived: 04/09/16 Stamp arrived at dealer on Sat. Unfortunately, got I delayed on the NICS check. Talk about a kick in the nuts... Does NH have a separate NICS check requirement? Because federally you're not required to go through one for NFA items. |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 2:48:08 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Does NH have a separate NICS check requirement? Because federally you're not required to go through one for NFA items. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Silencerco Omega Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/23/15 Check Cashed: 11/30/15 Pending: 11/27/15 Approved: 3/19/16 Stamp arrived: 04/09/16 Stamp arrived at dealer on Sat. Unfortunately, got I delayed on the NICS check. Talk about a kick in the nuts... Does NH have a separate NICS check requirement? Because federally you're not required to go through one for NFA items. Not that I'm aware of, but apparently it's store policy to vet people buying on a trust. It sucks but makes sense I guess. |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 3:13:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Not that I'm aware of, but apparently it's store policy to vet people buying on a trust. It sucks but makes sense I guess. Well...if you feel like standing up for yourself, you're supposed fill out the 4473 but are exempt from a NICS check. Line 22 of the 4473 has this checkbox: No NICS check was required because the transfer involved only National Firearms Act firearm(s). (See Instructions for Question 22.) The Instructions mentioned include: EXCEPTIONS TO NICS CHECK: A NICS check is not required if the transfer qualifies for any of the exceptions in 27 CFR § 478.102(d). Generally these include: (a) transfers where the buyer has presented the licensee with a permit or license that allows the buyer to possess, acquire, or carry a firearm, and the permit has been recognized by ATF as a valid alternative to the NICS check requirement; (b) transfers of National Firearms Act weapons approved by ATF; or (c) transfers certified by ATF as exempt because compliance with the NICS check requirements is impracticable. See 27 CFR § 478.102(d) for a detailed explanation. If the transfer qualifies for one of these exceptions, the licensee must obtain the documentation required by 27 CFR § 478.131. A firearm must not be transferred to any buyer who fails to provide such documentation. And the last time it was covered in the FFL Newsletter... TRANSFER OF A NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT FIREARM TO A CORPORATION OR OTHER LEGAL ENTITY ATF has been increasingly asked questions about the procedures for the transfer of a National Firearms Act (NFA) firearm to a corporation or other legal entity, such as a trust, that is not a Federal firearms licensee (FFL). When transferring a firearm to a corporation or legal entity you must use an ATF Form 4 Application for Tax Paid Transfer of a Firearm. The FFL will identify the corporation or other entity on the Form 4 application by the legal name as the transferee. No individual name, such as the name of the president of the corporation, shall be included in identifying the transferee. The Articles of Incorporation or other documentation establishing the legal entity must be included with the Form 4 application. The documentation must identify a point of contact for the corporation or other entity and must be sufficient for ATF to establish the legitimacy of the existence of the corporation or other entity. If the firearm being transferred is a machinegun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, or destructive device, an officer or director of the corporation or other entity must complete item 15 on the reverse side of the Form 4. Items 13, 14, 16, and 17 of the Form 4 do not require completion for a transfer to a corporation or other entity nor is the submission of ATF F 5330.20, Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B), required. Procedure after approval Approved NFA transfers are exempt from the NICS background check. So, when the FFL arranges for the disposition of the NFA firearm to a representative of the corporation or other entity, only the ATF Form 4473, Firearms Transaction Record, must be completed by the representative of the corporation or other entity. All other recordkeeping requirements of the Gun Control Act must be met. |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 3:38:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Silencerco Sparrow
Form 4 Trust Mailed: 11/24/15 Check Cashed: 12/01/15 Pending: ? Approved: 4/05/16 Stamp arrived: ? |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 3:52:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Well...if you feel like standing up for yourself, you're supposed fill out the 4473 but are exempt from a NICS check. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Not that I'm aware of, but apparently it's store policy to vet people buying on a trust. It sucks but makes sense I guess. Well...if you feel like standing up for yourself, you're supposed fill out the 4473 but are exempt from a NICS check. I believe the other other side cites the Dakota Silencer letter from the ATF as justification for why the run a NICS check. |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 5:23:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer:
I believe the other other side cites the Dakota Silencer letter from the ATF as justification for why the run a NICS check. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By jwm_mwj:
Not that I'm aware of, but apparently it's store policy to vet people buying on a trust. It sucks but makes sense I guess. Well...if you feel like standing up for yourself, you're supposed fill out the 4473 but are exempt from a NICS check. I believe the other other side cites the Dakota Silencer letter from the ATF as justification for why the run a NICS check. No doubt. But, we all know what those letters are worth. A lot do it as a CYA measure even if there's no legal justification to do it. And some just don't know any better. |
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Posted: 4/11/2016 6:22:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
[#43]
Keystone Armory Situator Rimfire Aluminum
Purchased: 11-20-2015 @ Capitol Armory pre-black Friday sale for $133 F3 Filed: 11-20-2015 F3 Approved: 12-30-2015 F4 mailed: 1-15-2016 Check Cashed: ? Pending: ? Approved: ? Received: ? F1 .30 cal 7.9" Suppressor, model: Paladin F1 mailed: 02-13-2016 F1 Approved: ? F1 received: ? Dear Air Armament Sandman - S Purchased: 12-10-2015 from Jake @ Quiet Riot Firearms F3 Filed: 12-10-2015 F3 approved: 1-21-2016 F4 mailed: 02-25-2016 check cashed: ? Pending: ? Approved: ? Received from SOT: ? Dear Air Armament Sandman - S (my buddy's can) Purchased: 12-14-2015 from Jake @ Quiet Riot Firearms F3 Filed: 12-14-2015 F3 approved: 1-22-2016 F4 mailed: 2-17-2016 check cashed: 2-23-2016 Pending: ? Approved: ? Received from SOT: ? AAC Ti-rant 9mm (my buddy's) Quiet Riot Firearms. Allegedly the LAST one they had for $349 Purchased: 4-15-2015 F3 filed: ? F3 mailed to local dealer: 6-8-2015 F4 mailed: ? Check cashed: ? Pending: ? Received from SOT: he was supposed to have 4 forms pending, turns out he only mailed 3 checks so he's starting from square one. I feel bad for him except that he's mailing a Sandman-S F4 at the same time Surefire SOCOM 556 Mini FDE Purchased: 12-23-2015 from Lanbo's Armory for $694.95 delivered F3 filed:12-30-2015 F3 Approved: 02-2-2016 F4 mailed: 03-19-2016 Check cashed: ? Pending: ? Approved: ? Receive from SOT: ? Thompson Machine ISIS 9mm 13.5x1 left hand Purchased: 03-15-2016 on gunbroker from Auto Weapons for $211.75 + S&H F3 filed: 03-22-2016 F3 approved: ? F4 mailed: ? Check cashed: ? Pending: ? Approved: ? Thompson Machine SG-2 9mm, no mount Purchased: 04-11-2016 directly from Thompson Machine F3 Filed: ? F3 Approved: ? F4 mailed: ? Check Cashed: ? Pending: ? Approved: ? Received from SOT: ? Reserved a Recce 7 that's awaiting ATF approval to the dealer |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2016 4:13:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Submitted form 4 12/30. Called today and they said it was approved 4/5. Form 4 individual. Wahoo!
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Posted: 4/12/2016 9:38:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Iakona:
Check cashed on Nov 6 and approved on Mar 9th. Waiting for stamp to arrive now. Form 4 suppressor dealer had in stock. Couple more weeks I imagine until I get it but so close. Took a month to get my tax stamp, it just arrived today after being approved on Mar 9th. |
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Posted: 4/13/2016 11:18:40 AM EDT
[#46]
I've got two 762-SD's pending.
Pending- 12/7 This is the longest any of mine have taken. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2016 1:00:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joe_556:
Octane 45 HD Purchased 2/1/16 Arrived at SOT 3/21/16 Form #4 & personal check sent 3/24/16 I got to hold it for a short while  Check cleared 4/8 |
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Posted: 4/13/2016 1:09:28 PM EDT
[#48]
approved 3/28. Still no stamp.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2016 11:12:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Submitted Form 4 12/30, Approved 4/5, in hand 4/13. That was faster than I was expecting.
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Posted: 4/13/2016 11:19:03 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Weasel_Master:
Submitted Form 4 12/30, Approved 4/5, in hand 4/13. That was faster than I was expecting. Trust or individual? I know the individual applications had been running a good bit faster. I have a trust F4 that was mailed 12/15 (check cashed 12/19) and when I called last Fri to make sure another one was in the system, this one was still pending. |
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