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Link Posted: 1/7/2017 11:03:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: miwafr] [#1]
No Griffin decided to stop production to re-tool the the entire factory,then F'd up the first batch.
This really has been a trying process with SS & Griffin..
may just build future suppressors.
make sure you all are joining Fight the Noise to change legislation for hearing protection bill
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 11:54:29 AM EDT
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NICE!
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 2:03:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Gemtech Mist TD
From quiet riot and F3 to my local
Trust
Picked up stamp and can the Monday after Christmas
8 months total after purchase
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 4:57:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: way-out-west2] [#4]
SBR lower
Form 1 Trust
EFiled 04/29
Approved 10/23


Warlock II
Form 4 Trust
Form sent 05/01
Cashed 05/
Pending 05/06
Approved
Stamp arrived

* talked to Melissa 01/10 said 'should' be any day now ...
Link Posted: 1/7/2017 10:20:16 PM EDT
[#5]
form 4 trust for Octane 9
check cashed: 4/29/16
Approved: 12/21/16
Stamp at Dealer: 1/6/17

Now I am in for probably a longer wait now as I have a couple post 41f forms filed in September.
Link Posted: 1/8/2017 7:47:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: miwafr] [#6]
SS shows Form 3 disposed 1\05\2017
That sounds like it is on it's way to my FFL,correct?
Link Posted: 1/8/2017 8:05:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By miwafr:
SS shows Form 3 disposed 1\05\2017
That sounds like it is on it's way to my FFL,correct?
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Yep, you  have probably been emailed a tracking number to track it on its journey to your FFL. Now the wait begins.......
Link Posted: 1/9/2017 10:15:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By miwafr:
SS shows Form 3 disposed 1\05\2017
That sounds like it is on it's way to my FFL,correct?
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Can you still see the approved date?  I've got several approved but lost/replacement requested and I hate emailing them every week
Link Posted: 1/9/2017 6:15:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/9/2017 9:06:42 PM EDT
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(Bank says Check payment) Pending
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 7:32:34 PM EDT
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yep, and it will be pending for a year or so........ welcome to the line
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 7:43:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Flagflyfish:
yep, and it will be pending for a year or so........ welcome to the line
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Line ends back there ------>
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 8:17:09 PM EDT
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Griffin Revolution 9
Form 4 Trust
Purchase Date  4/22/16
Form 4 File Date 4/26/16 (By Dealer )
Card Charged Date 5/6/16 (Per dealer)
Pending Date 5/3/16  (Per phone call to ATF)
Approval Date 12/27/16 (per Form 4)
Notification and pickup from dealer 1/10/17
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 9:27:41 PM EDT
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1. NFA Item: Gem-Tech GM-22
2. Transferee Type: Individual
3. Method: Paper
4. Form Mailed: December 31 2016
5. Form Delivery:  January 5, 2017
6. Check Cashed: January 9, 2017
7. Pending:
8. Approved:

Link Posted: 1/10/2017 11:29:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mikaelo:
Griffin Revolution 9
Form 4 Trust
Purchase Date  4/22/16
Form 4 File Date 4/26/16 (By Dealer )
Card Charged Date 5/6/16 (Per dealer)
Pending Date 5/3/16  (Per phone call to ATF)
Approval Date 12/27/16 (per Form 4)
Notification and pickup from dealer 1/10/17
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My Form 4 trust 5/4 pending date is still pending as per my phone call to the ATF today. That's a two week difference (so far) past your approval

This is killing me!
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 10:21:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BPK2300:


My Form 4 trust 5/4 pending date is still pending as per my phone call to the ATF today. That's a two week difference (so far) past your approval

This is killing me!
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It was a happy surprise in my inbox...I actually didn't expect it quite yet, so now I have to get my main host gun ready - Cut and thread my MPX to 4.5" and 1/2x28 - thought I had another week or so.
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 2:36:21 PM EDT
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Picked up my now obsolete Specwar K today!

Silencerco Specwar K
Form 4 Trust
Purchased: 08-APR-2016
Form 4 Mailed: 15-APR-2016
Check Cashed: 21-APR-2016
Approved: 23-DEC-2016
Approved Form 4 Mailed: 06-JAN-2017
Received by Dealer: 10-JAN-2017

Days from Mailed to Approved:248
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 2:50:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Engineer:
Picked up my now obsolete Specwar K today!

Silencerco Specwar K
Form 4 Trust
Purchased: 08-APR-2016
Form 4 Mailed: 15-APR-2016
Check Cashed: 21-APR-2016
Approved: 23-DEC-2016
Approved Form 4 Mailed: 06-JAN-2017
Received by Dealer: 10-JAN-2017

Days from Mailed to Approved:248
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Let's see an AR family pic
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 4:29:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Engineer:
Picked up my now obsolete Specwar K today!

Silencerco Specwar K
Form 4 Trust
Purchased: 08-APR-2016
Form 4 Mailed: 15-APR-2016
Check Cashed: 21-APR-2016
Approved: 23-DEC-2016
Approved Form 4 Mailed: 06-JAN-2017
Received by Dealer: 10-JAN-2017

Days from Mailed to Approved:248
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Why is the specwar k obsolete? I'm picking mine up next week. 
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 4:38:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
Why is the specwar k obsolete? I'm picking mine up next week. 
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Discontinued by SilencerCo and replaced by Saker ASR
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 4:46:15 PM EDT
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Obsolete is such a harsh word. Discontinued, not obsolete. Still going to be very quiet
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 4:55:08 PM EDT
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Form 4-trust submitted 4/18/2016
Status-still fucking waiting. I see lots of people submitted after me already have their suppressors in hand. I bought two AEM5's at the same time. Thought I would have them by now. 9 months. I woman can have a baby faster. These wait times are going to get into the 18 month range real quick I have a feeling. We are only on April 2016 submissions. The real rush was may and June.
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 5:36:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:

Obsolete is such a harsh word. Discontinued, not obsolete. Still going to be very quiet
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By Gopherboy128:


Discontinued by SilencerCo and replaced by Saker ASR

Obsolete is such a harsh word. Discontinued, not obsolete. Still going to be very quiet


I know - it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek and I should have stuck a smiley in there.

With how many SilencerCo suppressors I own, I think I'm almost at fanboi status so I'm not disparaging SilencerCo in any way.
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 9:13:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Form 4-trust submitted 4/18/2016
Status-still fucking waiting. I see lots of people submitted after me already have their suppressors in hand. I bought two AEM5's at the same time. Thought I would have them by now. 9 months. I woman can have a baby faster. These wait times are going to get into the 18 month range real quick I have a feeling. We are only on April 2016 submissions. The real rush was may June and July
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Fixed it for you.
Link Posted: 1/12/2017 12:29:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By daddytallguy:

Fixed it for you.
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Originally Posted By daddytallguy:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Form 4-trust submitted 4/18/2016
Status-still fucking waiting. I see lots of people submitted after me already have their suppressors in hand. I bought two AEM5's at the same time. Thought I would have them by now. 9 months. I woman can have a baby faster. These wait times are going to get into the 18 month range real quick I have a feeling. We are only on April 2016 submissions. The real rush was may June and July

Fixed it for you.


Hmm. I thought I had heard people say May got crazy too. That's good news though. I did find out both my AEM5"s were approved 12/28/2016. hopefully I'll get to pick them up in a month or so when the dealer gets the approvals and can fit me in to come get them. 2 down 2 to go.
Link Posted: 1/12/2017 1:57:51 PM EDT
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SilencerCo Omega 9K
Form 4 Trust
Purchased: Sometime in April
Form 4 Mailed: End of April
Check Cashed: somewhere around 04MAY2016
Approved: 09JAN2017
Approved Form 4 Mailed: ???
Received by Dealer: ???
Link Posted: 1/13/2017 4:22:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Darkamek] [#27]
OSS SRM-4  5.56
Form 4 Trust
Form sent 04/25/16
Cashed ?
Pending 05/15/16
Approved 01/09/17
Stamp arrived 1/17/17
Link Posted: 1/13/2017 6:40:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26] [#28]
All on Trusts

Griffin Armament Recce 7
Purchased: 04-15-2016 from Tar Heel State Firearms
F3 filed: 04-16-2016
F3 Approved: 06-05-2016
F4 Mailed: 06-10-2016
Pending: ?
F4 Approved: ?

Thompson Machine SG-2 9mm, no mount. Bought a Gemtech 3 lug which arrived this week
Purchased: 04-11-2016 directly from Thompson Machine
F3 Filed: 04-20-2016
F3 Approved: 06-03-2016
F4 mailed: 07-11-2016
Check Cashed: ?
Pending: ?
Approved: ?
Received from SOT: ?

Thompson Machine ISIS 9mm 13.5x1 left hand. Sold the booster assembly for $90. Officially $121.75 invested in this can
Purchased: 03-15-2016 on gunbroker from Auto Weapons for $211.75 + S&H
F3 filed: 03-22-2016
F3 approved: 05-19-2016.
F4 mailed: ?
Check cashed: ?
Pending: ?
Approved: ?

Also pending:


M85 PAP: Approved 10-28-2016



Wasr-10 mailed Pending 5/31
Correction letter mailed to me on 1/9/17


Remington 870 12g Approved 1/3/17
No pics. Totaled disassembled on the bench and the barrel hasn't been cut so it's still ugly and long

Nodak Spud retro lower mailed June 7

tick tock
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 5:05:56 PM EDT
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Silencerco SpecwarK
F3 Filed: 12-9-15
F3 Approved: 2-12-16
F4 mailed: Hopefully April
Check Cashed: ?
Pending: July 13th??
Approved: ?

I made a post a couple pages back about this but I figured now that I hopefully have correct dates I can ask some questions. I called earlier this week to get some dates considering last time I did this I had a lady who didn't seem quite pleased to be taking my call. This time I got a much more friendly lady. Last time I called I was told I went pending in July, I called again and the lady told me that they "received" July 13th. Now can this be taken as the same thing? Both times I called I didn't have enough time to have a more lengthier conversation. Only reason i'm asking is because I haven't seen any other July pending dates in here. Now my dealer on the other hand has been little to no help. He is a very nice guy but doesn't inspire much confidence in me. He doesn't quite know when he sent my paperwork off but after I dropped him an email he told me it was "Months before July". I also stupidly sent it as a postal money order and not a check. So I can't quite get the date off that.
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 6:44:24 PM EDT
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A question on the process.

Do you have to wait for the form 3 to be approved before submitting the form 4?
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 6:57:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tanren37:
A question on the process.

Do you have to wait for the form 3 to be approved before submitting the form 4?
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technically yes, some dealers will submit early
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 7:51:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ubaderb:
Silencerco SpecwarK
F3 Filed: 12-9-15
F3 Approved: 2-12-16
F4 mailed: Hopefully April
Check Cashed: ?
Pending: July 13th??
Approved: ?

I made a post a couple pages back about this but I figured now that I hopefully have correct dates I can ask some questions. I called earlier this week to get some dates considering last time I did this I had a lady who didn't seem quite pleased to be taking my call. This time I got a much more friendly lady. Last time I called I was told I went pending in July, I called again and the lady told me that they "received" July 13th. Now can this be taken as the same thing? Both times I called I didn't have enough time to have a more lengthier conversation. Only reason i'm asking is because I haven't seen any other July pending dates in here. Now my dealer on the other hand has been little to no help. He is a very nice guy but doesn't inspire much confidence in me. He doesn't quite know when he sent my paperwork off but after I dropped him an email he told me it was "Months before July". I also stupidly sent it as a postal money order and not a check. So I can't quite get the date off that.
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From your timeline, something seems off. Either the dealer who filed the form 3 didn't ship the can right away or your local dealer didn't file the form 4 right away. Seems like a month passed with no action.
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 7:54:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
technically yes, some dealers will submit early
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By Tanren37:
A question on the process.

Do you have to wait for the form 3 to be approved before submitting the form 4?
technically yes, some dealers will submit early


It's a gamble and a big no-no. SS waits about half the time from form 3 submittion to form 3 approval to send off the form 4 if you're using a "powered by SS" dealer. If they see the average time is 4 weeks, they wait 2 and send off the form 4. They say they have a variance from the NFA branch.
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 8:05:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ubaderb:
Silencerco SpecwarK
F3 Filed: 12-9-15
F3 Approved: 2-12-16
F4 mailed: Hopefully April
Check Cashed: ?
Pending: July 13th??
Approved: ?

I made a post a couple pages back about this but I figured now that I hopefully have correct dates I can ask some questions. I called earlier this week to get some dates considering last time I did this I had a lady who didn't seem quite pleased to be taking my call. This time I got a much more friendly lady. Last time I called I was told I went pending in July, I called again and the lady told me that they "received" July 13th. Now can this be taken as the same thing? Both times I called I didn't have enough time to have a more lengthier conversation. Only reason i'm asking is because I haven't seen any other July pending dates in here. Now my dealer on the other hand has been little to no help. He is a very nice guy but doesn't inspire much confidence in me. He doesn't quite know when he sent my paperwork off but after I dropped him an email he told me it was "Months before July". I also stupidly sent it as a postal money order and not a check. So I can't quite get the date off that.
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I have (2) pending as of 7/8/16. 
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 9:59:28 PM EDT
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If you have the receipt for the USPS money order for $5.95 the post office will tell you if and when its been cashed.
Link Posted: 1/14/2017 10:12:55 PM EDT
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I just realized i might be screwed. I sent my F1 off the last day before 41F using the USPS kiosk and I learned today that it might actually be postmarked the day after......

Anybody know if this is true?
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 8:18:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 01grander2:
I just realized i might be screwed. I sent my F1 off the last day before 41F using the USPS kiosk and I learned today that it might actually be postmarked the day after......

Anybody know if this is true?
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No one here can answer that question.  If it didn't not make the deadline it will be rejected and you will receive a error letter stating you used an obselete form.

Calling the ATF is your only option to answering this question.
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 11:50:14 AM EDT
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At this pace I'll have my 5/5 submission in March. At least SHOT Show will take my mind off of it for a little.
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 2:55:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moses_J:
At this pace I'll have my 5/5 submission in March. At least SHOT Show will take my mind off of it for a little.
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Waiting on mid-may checks cashed here. Seems like the pace REALLY slowed down sometime around mid-april.
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 3:31:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By confusiussaid:


Waiting on mid-may checks cashed here. Seems like the pace REALLY slowed down sometime around mid-april.
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Originally Posted By confusiussaid:
Originally Posted By Moses_J:
At this pace I'll have my 5/5 submission in March. At least SHOT Show will take my mind off of it for a little.


Waiting on mid-may checks cashed here. Seems like the pace REALLY slowed down sometime around mid-april.


Don't talk like that, I'm waiting on an early June and an early July
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 7:12:27 PM EDT
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Don't talk like that, I'm waiting on an early June and an early July
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I talked with Stephanie at the NFA Branch on Friday afternoon, she told me that they are still in the 8 month wait time......i'm thinking (hoping) they won't go up too fast till after the July 14 deadline.
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 7:21:26 PM EDT
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Waiting on mid-may checks cashed here. Seems like the pace REALLY slowed down sometime around mid-april.
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I wonder why F4 are lagging behind F1 significantly

I had a 5/31 F1 approved 1/3
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 8:20:39 PM EDT
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I wonder why F4 are lagging behind F1 significantly

I had a 5/31 F1 approved 1/3
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Volume.  Significantly more F4's were submitted than F1's....
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 12:18:04 AM EDT
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Defcon 4-SD
Received: 5/6/16
Check Cashed: 5/9/16
Pending: ??
Approved: 1/8/17
Received: 1/14/17

Paper Fm 4 Trust
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 4:22:50 AM EDT
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Volume.  Significantly more F4's were submitted than F1's....
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well right, yes obviously but I should have phrased it as "why"
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 8:34:56 PM EDT
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Both my form 4's were approved dec 28. Still waiting on an email from capital armory. Then I realized SHOT is this week so maybe I'll get to go get them next week.
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 2:59:06 AM EDT
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Both my sandman L and sandman Ti  stamps were  received by my dealer 1-13-17. I sent them on a form 4 trust 4-24-16 and tried to forget about them, so I didn't keep track of any of the pending/approved dates. Now I'm waiting on my silencerco osprey and dead air mask, both filed 7-2-16... I don't expect to get those back till Christmas
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 11:28:14 AM EDT
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Just called into the ATF.

My 5/4 pending date is still pending. 259 days so far. The gentleman at the ATF told me that it will likely be approved in February

Average wait times won't be plateauing anytime soon
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 12:28:24 PM EDT
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Mine was approved on 12/23/16 and the stamp is still not at the dealer
Link Posted: 1/17/2017 1:24:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BPK2300:
Just called into the ATF.

My 5/4 pending date is still pending. 259 days so far. The gentleman at the ATF told me that it will likely be approved in February

Average wait times won't be plateauing anytime soon
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That's not good.  I haven't called since mid-dec but my 5/4 pending date is probably still pending.

The average wait time is increasing but the variability is increasing too.  My buddy submitted the day before I did, and his stamp came in before Christmas.
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