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Posted: 7/11/2006 3:47:18 PM
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The SCAR-SD was designed by Advanced Armament for the FN SCAR-L rifle. We have also had interest from other military groups who use the H&K 416.

The SCAR-SD is a light weight, fast attach silencer for 5.56 x 45mm rifles. This designed was initially created for the precision variant of FN's SCAR-L, it is well suited for use on any rifle where weight, and size are a significant consideration. This design provides enough sound reduction to render it hearing safe and only adds 3.5" to the overall length of the rifle.

Weight: 16oz
27dB of sound reduction
1.5" diameter x 5.9" OAL
Lifetime warranty.





I would like to mention that this item is in stock.
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Posted: 7/11/2006 6:18:26 PM
Could I see some more pics of the supressor mounted to the M4 with the 14.5" barrel in the bottom pic? I would also like to see some pics of the mounting system.

Thanks!
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Posted: 7/11/2006 6:29:09 PM

Originally Posted By CAR-15:
Could I see some more pics of the supressor mounted to the M4 with the 14.5" barrel in the bottom pic? I would also like to see some pics of the mounting system.

Thanks!


I think thats an Omni. Both are pretty nice setups!

Can't wait to get my hands on a SCAR H or L
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Posted: 7/11/2006 6:50:21 PM

Originally Posted By FreddyAAC:

27dB of sound reduction



Please elaborate on this. What ammo, temps, velocities, barrel lengths?

Also, what is the price?
That's a GREAT 22 suppressor, but can you take it apart to clean it?
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Posted: 7/11/2006 6:53:32 PM
I would like to see the mounting system, and price.
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Posted: 7/11/2006 6:59:09 PM
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The SCAR-SD is hearing safe? Robert Silvers has said the SCAR-SD is louder than the M4-2K which is not hearing safe.


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Posted: 7/11/2006 7:14:44 PM

Originally Posted By CAR-15:
Could I see some more pics of the supressor mounted to the M4 with the 14.5" barrel in the bottom pic? I would also like to see some pics of the mounting system.

Thanks!


Freddy will post more tomorrow.

The mounting system is like the M4-2000. We did develop several new flash hiders for this project. I will have him post those, too.
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Posted: 7/11/2006 7:17:16 PM

Originally Posted By 1928A1:

Originally Posted By FreddyAAC:

27dB of sound reduction



Please elaborate on this. What ammo, temps, velocities, barrel lengths?

Also, what is the price?


XM 193, various temps. (winter thru summer), 10-12fps above unsuppressed, 9"-20".

Retail is $995
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Posted: 7/11/2006 7:18:11 PM

Originally Posted By bigcraig:
I would like to see the mounting system, and price.


More pics tomorrow when someone returns to the office.

Retail is $995.
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Posted: 7/11/2006 7:26:46 PM
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Originally Posted By ian187:
The SCAR-SD is hearing safe? Robert Silvers has said the SCAR-SD is louder than the M4-2K which is not hearing safe.



I not sure what you are talking about.

The M4-2000 is way below hearing safe. The SCAR-SD is not as quiet, but is still hearing safe. It has never tested otherwise. I guess that you are wrong, but I am still not certain as to what you are confused about.



I think that you may be confusing us with someone else.

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Posted: 7/11/2006 8:06:29 PM
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Posted: 7/11/2006 8:10:14 PM
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Thank you AR15.com.
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Posted: 7/11/2006 8:12:28 PM
Wow, just wow!!!

IBTL, as I guarantee this one gets locked SOON!!!
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Posted: 7/11/2006 8:14:22 PM
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Posted: 7/12/2006 9:33:18 AM
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I cleaned this up. Please keep this on topic and civil.
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Posted: 7/12/2006 10:09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By CAR-15:
Could I see some more pics of the supressor mounted to the M4 with the 14.5" barrel in the bottom pic? I would also like to see some pics of the mounting system.

Thanks!


Here is a closer picture of the Omni.

The Omni was designed to interface with the common A2 birdcage flash hider. When mounted the Omni adds only 4.9" to the overall length of the weapon.

The mount is a single piece design that indexes on the wrench flats of the A2 birdcage. Our mounting method eliminates the possibility of loosing parts and allows for repeatable positioning of the silencer.

Specs:
32dBs of sound reduction (14.5" barrel & M193)
1.5OD x 6.9 OAL.
Price $895 retail.




Let's keep this thread positive!
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Posted: 7/12/2006 10:18:08 AM
Hey Fred, since you guys are in charge of designing what's going to hang off the barrel of the SCAR, do you know if FN has any plans to ditch the pencil barrel and go with a HB?
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Posted: 7/12/2006 10:39:51 AM
Honestly, we wouldn't know that they were changing the barrel until they asked us to design a mount for it.

On which variant would you like to see a heavy barrel?
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Posted: 7/12/2006 11:02:32 AM
I'd say the longer barrels, like the Mk16's 18" and the Mk17's 16" and 20" could probably benefit from a heavier, stiffer barrel, given their role. I actuallly figured every version would have an HB, considering the heavy profile of the M4A1 barrel.
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Posted: 7/12/2006 12:56:17 PM
I ran the SCAR-SD in a carbine class recently and it performed very well. I was using a 14.5" M4 barrel and a Phantom flash suppressor mount. The carbine handled very nicely.

Crappy picture, but the SCAR-SD also comes with the newly designed pouch. Notice the MOLLE attachment.




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Posted: 7/12/2006 1:39:03 PM

Originally Posted By KevinAAC:

Originally Posted By 1928A1:

Originally Posted By FreddyAAC:

27dB of sound reduction



Please elaborate on this. What ammo, temps, velocities, barrel lengths?

Also, what is the price?


XM 193, various temps. (winter thru summer), 10-12fps above unsuppressed, 9"-20".

Retail is $995


What were the numbers at the various temps, what were the velocities of each shot and the respective dB numbers and what barrel length was used for each shot? I should have been clearer in my post. Sorry for that.

I am looking for information like this:

Unsupressed shot from 9" barrel: 169.4 dB Velocity 2674
Suppressed shot from 9" barrel: 139.7 dB Velocity 2689
Temp/Humidity for each string. I assume that you do 10 shot or 20 shot tests and average them out.

I don't think 27dB of reduction is accurate for every single shot, all times of the year, from all barrel lenghts in all atmospheres. 27 could be borderline hearing safe, to not hearing safe depending on the variables.

That's a GREAT 22 suppressor, but can you take it apart to clean it?
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Posted: 7/12/2006 3:03:05 PM

Originally Posted By 1928A1:

I don't think 27dB of reduction is accurate for every single shot, all times of the year, from all barrel lenghts in all atmospheres. 27 could be borderline hearing safe, to not hearing safe depending on the variables.



That has been my point for several years, but nobody wants to put in the time/effort to do comprehensive testing in a variety of conditions, on a variety of platforms. So we are still stuck with the single number metric.
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Posted: 7/12/2006 4:42:16 PM

Originally Posted By BookHound:
I ran the SCAR-SD in a carbine class recently and it performed very well. I was using a 14.5" M4 barrel and a Phantom flash suppressor mount. The carbine handled very nicely.

Crappy picture, but the SCAR-SD also comes with the newly designed pouch. Notice the MOLLE attachment.

www.politesocietyinc.com/pics/web2_scarsd_w_pouch.jpg


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Posted: 7/13/2006 2:41:50 PM
Nice!
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Posted: 7/13/2006 3:23:06 PM
I heard the the AAC S2R suppressor was delayed because of baffle chages resulting from lessons learned during the SCAR-SD suppressor design. How well do these bafles work in the S2R? I heard you just completed testing of the new baffles in the S2R. Any idea on when the S2R will be released or suppression figures?
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Posted: 7/13/2006 5:55:19 PM

Originally Posted By FreddyAAC:

...only adds 3.5" to the overall length of the rifle.



Is that 3.5" from the muzzle, or from the FH?
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