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4/25/2017 7:42:44 PM
Posted: 1/16/2002 10:31:09 AM EDT
I am getting only one of these at this time. which would be the better option? I want it just for plinking for cheap... Or should I just get a case of 556 with the money and blast away?
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 10:35:42 AM EDT
Get the 10/22. Easier to use (no swapping uppers and blocks), and worth the money as a stand-alone gun. EVERYBODY should have a 10/22, (if they weren't made by that scumbag Ruger).
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 10:37:18 AM EDT
I bought a 10/22 a month ago. For $150 you can't go wrong.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 11:01:34 AM EDT
10/22s are great little rifles, but the conversion is a great way to learn to shoot your AR better. But by all means, get one or the other, or better yet get both.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 11:16:11 AM EDT
I go with the case of 5.56 and blast away.

I was told the coversion caused lead foul-up in the barrel and gass tube. I've been shooting mine no problem. The conversion is fun when it works. My Ciener tends to extract the wrong way, leaving the empty cartige on top of everything, but when it works it works great.

Personally I'd go with the 10/22. I think the 10/22 would be more versitile than the AR with the conversion.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 12:23:08 PM EDT
The advantage of the USGI M261 conversion kit is that it can be carried in the buttpack or even on the belt in a USGI M9 Cleaning kit case.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 12:27:16 PM EDT
The 10-22 has the advantage of not being Evil. If you should happen to be intruded upon whilst plinking in the boondocks, you won't provoke a reaction. It is a simple wooden .22, hearkening back to more innocent days of yore... not the Evil gun so frequently used to murder innocent children.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 12:33:39 PM EDT
for the same money, would you rather have 1 gun, or 2?
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 1:03:50 PM EDT
I'd get the 10/22, especially when they can be found for roughly the same price as an AR conversion kit. Save up and get the conversion later.

Everybody should have at least one Ruger 10/22.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 1:04:51 PM EDT
It all depends on your intended use.

For a survivalist (or minimalist) looking for a way to use his primary offensive/defensive rifle to also gather food, the conversion is a better choice.

For the gun collector or hobbiest looking to further his collection, the 10/22 is a better choice.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 1:17:52 PM EDT
One thing to consider is that the AR needs a slower twist barrel to accurately shoot the .22LR bullets. I read this in Kuleck's AR15 Owner's Guide but I forget the exact twist he was recommending (1 in 12?)

So get a 10/22 and have fun with it. It's even more fun to customize than the AR.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 1:54:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
One thing to consider is that the AR needs a slower twist barrel to accurately shoot the .22LR bullets.



a 1:9 Brl will work fine with 22LR bullets from 38 to 60Gn.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 2:22:30 PM EDT
If you just want to have some good cheap fun get the 10/22. They are great little guns and you can upgrade them into anything you would ever want with simple do it yourself projects. Best. Watch-Six
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 2:42:42 PM EDT
Wow, overwhelmingly for the 10/22. Unfortunately I jumped the gun and ordered the conversion kit from Armalite.
It cost me 179 plus shipping and they have it in stock which is cool and includes a 30 round mag. a dealer here wants 199 for one with a 10 rounder.
If I got the ruger I would have to get the 30 rounder (60 bucks)+150 for the rifle + a stock, (maybe a bullpup 90 bucks), and I wouldn't get to show off my M-4gery.
I am just rationalizing here, and hope I don't regret it later.
by the way, I like My rifles to look intimidating, all of my weapons are Black. If those hippie liberals want to be waltzing around smelling flowers while I'm plinking away in the boonies, they should walk away from the sounds of gunfire...lol
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 3:47:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ken_mays:
One thing to consider is that the AR needs a slower twist barrel to accurately shoot the .22LR bullets. I read this in Kuleck's AR15 Owner's Guide but I forget the exact twist he was recommending (1 in 12?)

So get a 10/22 and have fun with it. It's even more fun to customize than the AR.



I was worried about that too at first, but when I do use it (at 25 meters-indoor range), I have know problem turning the colored center (3 inchs in diameter) into a big hole after 1-30 round mag using rapid fire (like that carnival uzi pellet gun game). I don't know if I'd be able to knock down 4 quarters in 5 rounds, but it's a combat rifle, not a sniper rifle. With a 10/22 and a nice scope, I'd say no problem.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 4:23:03 PM EDT
10/22. The twist rate is correct, and the plus is you will have another gun not just a conversion kit that is marginal at best.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 9:03:10 PM EDT
Get the 10/22. It gives you more options. It saves wear and tear on your more valuable
AR. If something were to happen to your
AR lower, neither the uper or conversion kit would do you any good. With the 10/22, you have a back up weapon. It is also a great introductory firearm for newbies, womenz and childrenz alike. Great for people interested in shooting, but afrad of the "black rifle". It's also a great side project that is inexpensive. You can start with a basic 10/22 ($150 new) and build it into one of many after market configurations available for an extra $150-200, for a total cost of only $300 or so.
Link Posted: 1/16/2002 9:04:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/16/2002 9:06:45 PM EDT by az-gunner]
Get the 10/22. It gives you more options. It saves wear and tear on your more valuable
AR. If something were to happen to your
AR lower, neither the uper or conversion kit would do you any good. With the 10/22, you have a back up weapon. It is also a great introductory firearm for newbies, womenz and childrenz alike. Great for people interested in shooting, but afrad of the "black rifle". It's also a great side project that is inexpensive. You can start with a basic 10/22 ($150 new) and build it into one of many after market configurations available for an extra $150-200, for a total cost of only $300 or so.



Link Posted: 1/17/2002 8:18:55 AM EDT
Well, U jumped the gun and missed the fun. I have a sweet 10-22 and enjoy it a lot. Ammo is cheap, don't worry about lead in my AR's and it's another thing for the wife to Bi#c# about. I can take novice to the range and teach fundamentals w/o worrying about dings and nicks. I agree, evryone who shoots AR's can benefit from one.
Link Posted: 1/17/2002 8:28:32 AM EDT
You didn't mess up by getting the conversion kit first. But you are going to get a 10/22 when funds allow, aren't you?
Link Posted: 1/17/2002 9:16:45 AM EDT
The Marlin Papoose is a better choice of the "spare" .22 if you are a survivalist, because it is a takedown,with both sights on the barrel (unlike the pos AR7) It also isn't made by that traitor, Ruger. If you want to learn to use the AR swiftly, the 10-22 does not handle like the AR, lacks the same sights, trigger, safety, etc. If you are going to shoot 50,000 rds in 10 years or less, I recommend that you get TWO conversions (eventually) and a dedicated .22 upper receiver, to keep the wear and tear off of the "carry" .22 unit, and to allow the sort of precision that many want in a small game rifle. The unit usually groups 1" or so at 25m, and its POI is usually within 1" of the 223's at that range, but some units are problematical, both for group size and POI, and they might need considerable smithing. Who says that you will be ABLE to go get that other gun?
Link Posted: 1/17/2002 10:20:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
The advantage of the USGI M261 conversion kit is that it can be carried in the buttpack or even on the belt in a USGI M9 Cleaning kit case.



AR15 Fan,
How did you do this? I couldn't get mine to fit in the cleaning kit case. You are takling the OD one for the standard M16 cleaning kit?

The replacement bolt with the chamber adapter is a bit too long. Did you remove your chamber adapter?
Link Posted: 1/17/2002 3:48:50 PM EDT
Nocompromise...I have a 10/22 and a .22 conversion kit for my AR...I enjoy then both...but being able to shoot my AR indoors with the 22 kit is a great benefit...I knowyou won't be sorry with your purchase
Link Posted: 1/18/2002 6:08:25 AM EDT
The conversion kit was the way to go. I bought mine over a year ago, and then picked up a dedicated upper for it this summer. It has surpassed all of my other .22's for "favorite plinker". I'm sure you'll love it.

Brad
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