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Cummins_4x4
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Posted: 12/10/2001 2:35:10 PM
If anyone would have a pic of this little 22mag carbine I would sure appreciate it. Was a 22 magnum carbine.
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Posted: 12/10/2001 2:42:50 PM
Introduced in 1990 or 91, 16" barrel with muzzle brake, 30 round mag, telescoping stock.

Everything but a picture.
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Posted: 12/11/2001 1:07:50 PM
Cummins4x4, like I said in the other thread, I have a picture of my R31 (low 100 serial #) but when I try to post pics here, all I get is the "broken window" effect. I used to be able to post pics on the old site, but for some reason cannot on the new one. If you can figure out what's going on I'll be more than happy to post a pic for you. And since I have a digital camera I can post as many as you like.

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Posted: 12/11/2001 1:33:47 PM
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Posted: 12/11/2001 2:15:32 PM
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Anybody have an idea what the value of one of these is. Just in case I find one at a gun show I could use some background info on the price.
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Posted: 12/11/2001 2:29:27 PM
Anyone ever seen one of those at an auction site? I really want one of those things! That's flippin kewl!!
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Posted: 12/11/2001 2:50:52 PM
I would say very very expensive. Look at the production numbers on the link I posted. How many did they make like 1500 or something.

Also lots of grendel guns have probs with the firing pins. They break quite easy. and the company is not around anymore so break out the mill and make one.
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Posted: 12/11/2001 3:10:41 PM
Your right. Not something I want to pick up at a gun show, try to fix up and re-sell.
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Posted: 12/11/2001 3:12:56 PM
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I wonder if the Violence Prevention Center knows what a valuable reference they are to gun guys who need technical info for their next gun purchase?
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Posted: 12/11/2001 4:54:27 PM
Hey,
I thank the VPC for telling me where to get spare parts and accesories for my Calico's
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Posted: 12/12/2001 12:14:14 AM
When I sent my R31 back for repair in the early '90's, I spoke at length with their repair tech. He told me that there were just over 800 R31's produced. The first 50 were kept by the factory for testing purposes and the rest were sold to J.Q. Public. I was actually lucky I had to send it back twice because they sent me a free 30 round mag each time they returned it, so now I have 4 mags.....sweet! They were also working on a 50 round mag for the P30, P31, R31 series, but the AW ban cut that project short. Makes one wonder if there are any of these floating around somewhere.

As for price, I saw one for sale for $1600 about two years ago. I had mine at the local gunshow a while back so I could find a sling for it, and was offered $1200 on the spot by some hombre walking the halls. I really don't know how much the R31 is worth to someone who must have one, but I suspect an owner who doesn't realize what he has may sell it for significantly less due to ignorance. This is afterall a somewhat rare piece that has avoided the "assault weapons" radar to this point. I'm sure low production numbers have something to do with this too.

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Posted: 12/12/2001 3:05:41 PM
Thanks for the value info. I do like to pick up stuff like this at gun shows, fix them up, shoot them, take em back to the gun shows and try to make a buck on them. Thank God it never seems to end!
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Posted: 12/12/2001 6:00:58 PM

AR-fan

Grendel Values - R-31 Carbine

NIB = $300.00
EXC = 250.00
V.G. = 200.00

None of the Grendels have been spectacular performers in the value category. I have personal experience with the SR-20F and the SRT-24, both in .308, and they are "excellent."

No experience with the R-31.
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Posted: 12/13/2001 1:43:42 PM
Yeah I've seen those values listed in gun value books before, but in the R31's case (and probably the whole Grendel .22 mag line) they're a joke. The average P30 pistol goes for $500-$650 and they made a lot more of those than the R31 carbine. Regarding their .380 pistols you are definitely correct. Those things have very little resale value; probably because they're jamamatics. If you ever do find an R31 for $300, buy it and I will pay you DOUBLE for it, no questions asked.

On a side note, I saw a SR20 for $650 about 3-4 years ago. It's a nice looking rifle and I was getting kind of excited until I noticed it was a bolt action.

MG