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Posted: 10/27/2001 4:04:25 PM EDT
I'm considering on purchasing my first AR-15 and would like to know your sincere opinion if its really worth to spend $150 more on the Bushmaster equivalent of Rock River Arms?
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 4:24:51 PM EDT
The Bushmasters, excepting the DCM rifles, have chrome lined bores and chambers. RRA rifles do not. Chrome lining generally adds around $100 or so to the price of a field duty barrel.
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 4:55:22 PM EDT
A while back, Bushmaster was charging $50 extra for chromed-line BBL.
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 6:36:23 PM EDT
Make sure you are getting a real RR! there are some frankensteins being sold in our fair state. I wont mention any names.


"MARSHALL DILLON MARSHALL DILLON! they're a shooting up the long branch!"
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 6:50:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 8:40:29 PM EDT
In a word, yes.
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 9:32:20 PM EDT
with regular maintanance, what would you say is the life of a non-chrome lined barrel?

I'm about to purchase an AR15, and I also am interested in the barrel issue of it. I know there are some places out there that will sell you RRA uppers with bushmaster barrels, may be the way to go...
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 9:35:27 PM EDT
I own both. I prefer my LEGP RRA M4gery, but my bushy is also a solid weapon. You can't go wrong with either.

Live Free
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 9:59:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BusMaster007:
In a word, yes.



What he said.
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 10:00:35 PM EDT
I wouldnt give you 2 nickles for the chrome lined bore....in fact i have paid more fore rifles not to have it...pat
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 10:19:20 PM EDT
In a word... yes. Get the Bushy.
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 11:49:56 PM EDT
Yes.
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 2:01:30 AM EDT
Its a personel pref thing .s/s is more accurate,but then thats not what you wanted to know, both are good! , I dont use the chrome lined ARs mainly cause I {do} clean them and dont store them out in the back yard or under water {hehehe} .
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 5:32:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2001 10:12:18 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
MY RRA LEGP flattop is w/in spec.

My Leupold Mark IV rings don't fit my Bushmaster flattop, which is a little narrower than the RRA.

Apparantly the Picitinny spec was updated, but all the ring manufacturers haven't switched over yet.

I did measure my LEGP (#27) to be 0.835 wide, and my Bushmaster to be 0.832.

The Picatinny Rail Specification, Rev A, calls for 0.835-0.005. That's 0.835 to 0.830.

See www.biggerhammer.net/picatinny/1913a_specs.pdf
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 5:40:05 AM EDT
Slight off topic swerve:
Is my Wilson bbl. chromelined or no?
Bull, stainless.
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 5:53:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2001 5:48:32 AM EDT by warlord]

Originally Posted By Marksman14:
with regular maintanance, what would you say is the life of a non-chrome lined barrel?

I'm about to purchase an AR15, and I also am interested in the barrel issue of it. I know there are some places out there that will sell you RRA uppers with bushmaster barrels, may be the way to go...


I called Bushmaster/Quality Parts Co. a few years ago, and they said that unchromed barrels have a life somewhere around 10,000 rounds. I asked him how do you know a barrel is worn out, and the reply was that your shot group will open up a lot. Of course the follow-up question was how long does a chrome-lined barrel last, and he says that they have a M16 with a chromed-lined barrel that has more than 20,000 rounds thru it and it still shooting very accurately.

For me personally, I would keep it 100% RR or Bushmaster etc, because if you have a problem, you will have a clear who is responsible.
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 6:23:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2001 6:18:49 AM EDT by Tailgate]
NO...not worth the money. To be honest, if the RRA and Bushy cost IDENTICAL...I'd still go with RRA.

I concur with the earlier statements that I'd pay MORE for a NON-chrome lined barrel...better accuracy. How many people on this forum are out in the jungle for long periods of time and need a chromed bore? My guess is less than .001%.

Longer life? On paper, yes the chrome lasts longer. But if you take care of a rifle, the barrel will last your lifetime (unless you're shooting 10,000 rounds a year at a fast cyclical rate...in which case you probably have enough money to buy a new barrel or gun every year too!!!).

My $0.02. Now the difference is only $149.98.
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 11:27:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 8:07:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2001 8:03:41 PM EDT by Juggernaut]
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 9:39:16 PM EDT
I agree with what Juggernaut said. I would spend the extra for a Bushmaster.
Link Posted: 10/28/2001 9:43:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By QCMGR:

Originally Posted By BusMaster007:
In a word, yes.



What he said.



What they said.

Don't buy out of spec crap,you WILL be sorry.
Link Posted: 10/29/2001 6:39:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bearlaker:
Slight off topic swerve:
Is my Wilson bbl. chromelined or no?
Bull, stainless.



If its stainless its not chrome lined. Then again Wilson doesn't offer any chrome lined barrels as far as I know.
Link Posted: 10/29/2001 9:02:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Juggernaut:
BTW, just to be clear, I am not dissing RRA, simply pointing out that they, like many American manufacturers of AR15 rifles and parts primarily for the civilian market, have for cost reasons, eliminated a integral part of the rifle's design orginal design for relibility and longetivity under heavy use and poor conditions.
Juggernaut



Not to flame or bitch at you Jugger, but the "original" design did not include a chrome lined bore.
TRW
Link Posted: 10/29/2001 10:59:07 AM EDT

Not to flame or bitch at you Jugger, but the "original" design did not include a chrome lined bore.
TRW



RIGHT! And that part of the reason why the gun had failures.

(the other parts being lack of a cleaning kit/procedure and a change in the powder in the ammo)
Link Posted: 10/29/2001 1:21:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Not to flame or bitch at you Jugger, but the "original" design did not include a chrome lined bore.
TRW



RIGHT! And that part of the reason why the gun had failures.

(the other parts being lack of a cleaning kit/procedure and a change in the powder in the ammo)




Dooooooooooooooh!
Link Posted: 10/29/2001 2:01:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2001 2:18:09 PM EDT by Juggernaut]
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