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Posted: 7/22/2017 8:34:49 PM EDT

So seeing the prices of 7.62 NATO I decided to buy online from a shop that reloads these into once fired cases. Seemed okay, knew there were risks but I went for it. Got to the range with it with my M1a, go to chamber a round and *Click" nothing. Try a few more, same thing happens. Then the bolt gets stuck with one in the tube. Finally get it out with some force on the charging handle... This made me suspicious and watched it chamber a round and low and behold.. the bolt wasnt going into battery properly. It seems the cases have not been resized properly if at all, and I can not use these 500 rounds in my M1A. I don't own any other rifles unless I buy and Ishapore 2A I'm considering, but who's to say the rounds will work in that chamber?

I don't have or know how to use reloading equipment. What are my options here? I'm out 200 bucks with stuff I can't use. I contacted the distributor but I don't have high hopes.

Thanks guys

Posted: 7/22/2017 8:39:30 PM EDT

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Get your money back.. return the ammo ad defective, and dont buy reman ammo. Honestly.. the money you save is lost when something goes wrong, or on return shipping.

For $200... you could be a lee hand press, a set of lee dies, some powder, primed brass from xtreme... and make match grade ammo for rifle right from your couch.

Posted: 7/22/2017 9:14:08 PM EDT

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Get your money back.. return the ammo ad defective, and dont buy reman ammo. Honestly.. the money you save is lost when something goes wrong, or on return shipping.

For $200... you could be a lee hand press, a set of lee dies, some powder, primed brass from xtreme... and make match grade ammo for rifle right from your couch.

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True. I'd love to reload but I just don't have the time. I'm in a very demanding master's program so I guess I'll just shell out the extra cash for now.

Worst case, would doing a chargeback be warranted? What about the ammo? If I cant send it back the only thing I can think of would need reloading gear to pull everything and salvage the components.

Posted: 7/22/2017 9:31:31 PM EDT

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Was it Freedom ammo? If so, good luck. I ordered a bunch from them, 17% failure rate and they offered me 5% off my next order.

Posted: 7/22/2017 9:37:33 PM EDT

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I bought some reloaded ammo.

I went to a steel shoot. I hadn't shot much lately and shot kind of crappy, but I could swear on the first set of plates I was hitting them but not knocking them over. I found some commercial jhp carry ammo, and the second time through the plates fell. Later on another stage I was having problems knocking plats over and someone said he had seen me hitting the plates back in the beginning and not knocking them over.

Posted: 7/22/2017 9:45:53 PM EDT

[#5]

Don't.
Buy.
Remanufactured.

Problem solved, problem staying solved.

Posted: 7/22/2017 9:48:21 PM EDT

[#6]

Roll your own or buy new manufacture ammo. You can get Hirtenberger for a little bit more and it is sure fire.

Posted: 7/22/2017 9:48:22 PM EDT

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Was it Freedom ammo? If so, good luck. I ordered a bunch from them, 17% failure rate and they offered me 5% off my next order.

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Really? I've shot over 1000 9mm reman and about 400 38 spec reman from freedom, and I've never had a single bad round, although the accuracy on the reman has not been quite as good as the new.

Posted: 7/22/2017 10:32:31 PM EDT

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Live and learn.

At least it didn't blow up.

Posted: 7/23/2017 11:41:48 AM EDT

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Live and learn.

At least it didn't blow up.

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True. Last time I will try reman.

It was American Reloading based out of Montana. To be fair they shipped it extremely fast and I havent heard back from them yet and I just sent an email last night so we'll see how they respond to it.

Still, my question is unanswered. What can I do with this crap if I'm forced to keep it?

I miss surplus nato ammo

Posted: 7/23/2017 6:05:50 PM EDT

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True. Last time I will try reman.

It was American Reloading based out of Montana. To be fair they shipped it extremely fast and I havent heard back from them yet and I just sent an email last night so we'll see how they respond to it.

Still, my question is unanswered. What can I do with this crap if I'm forced to keep it?

I miss surplus nato ammo

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Sell it to someone who reloads AS COMPONENTS. Be clear and upfront on the issues. Prepare to take a loss.

Posted: 7/23/2017 6:13:54 PM EDT

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Sell it to someone who reloads AS COMPONENTS. Be clear and upfront on the issues. Prepare to take a loss.

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If they won't take it back and I do a chargeback I'm tempted to get a single stage press myself and reload them with the money I "saved"

I'd have to remove the bullets, drain the powder, resize, then add the powder back and reseat...

Posted: 7/23/2017 7:38:08 PM EDT

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Looks like the disclaimer on the item says projectiles may be loose or fall out of cases, also primers may not ignite. Also no returns allowed.

If the price is too good to be true it usually is. 500 rds for 200???

For the same 200 you could have gotten a 320 Rd case of new production German MEN ammo from sgammo shipped.

Posted: 7/23/2017 9:35:35 PM EDT

[#13]

Learn to reload your own. Lots of fun and rewarding.

I shot 220 rds of my .223 reloads today

Posted: 7/23/2017 9:40:03 PM EDT

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Who made the ammo? I thought I got a deal on 308 ammo last weekend. The guy I bought it from had 2 sealed 50 cal cans of Israeli tz 80 marked ammo I bought for $450. Went on the internet and found out it is shitty ammo. One guy said his gun blew up from it. It's known to have brittle brass that causes case ruptures. Lot number is 10-80.

Posted: 7/23/2017 9:40:27 PM EDT

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Really? I've shot over 1000 9mm reman and about 400 38 spec reman from freedom, and I've never had a single bad round, although the accuracy on the reman has not been quite as good as the new.

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Freedom ammo is soft crap. They are low velocity and is worthless for training ammo. Maybe if you're doing run-and-gun on paper targets, but nothing else.

Posted: 7/23/2017 10:44:05 PM EDT

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Looks like the disclaimer on the item says projectiles may be loose or fall out of cases, also primers may not ignite. Also no returns allowed.

If the price is too good to be true it usually is. 500 rds for 200???

For the same 200 you could have gotten a 320 Rd case of new production German MEN ammo from sgammo shipped.

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Yeah last time I'll do that. Small amount of malfunctioning primers is one thing, not resizing any of the cases is another. Makes the entire lot worthless

Posted: 7/24/2017 3:59:37 PM EDT

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Update: Talked to the company. Guy was very nice. Hes gonna swap it for 250 rounds of brand new .308 which I'm fine with!

Posted: 7/25/2017 3:27:53 PM EDT

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Who made the ammo? I thought I got a deal on 308 ammo last weekend. The guy I bought it from had 2 sealed 50 cal cans of Israeli tz 80 marked ammo I bought for $450. Went on the internet and found out it is shitty ammo. One guy said his gun blew up from it. It's known to have brittle brass that causes case ruptures. Lot number is 10-80.

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You are correct !! ...Don't shoot that stuff, I have 2 cans as well, from way back when. Pretty and dangerous.... you might get lucky and find someone with a 1919 machine gun that would buy it.

Posted: 7/25/2017 7:10:49 PM EDT

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You are correct !! ...Don't shoot that stuff, I have 2 cans as well, from way back when. Pretty and dangerous.... you might get lucky and find someone with a 1919 machine gun that would buy it.

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Who made the ammo? I thought I got a deal on 308 ammo last weekend. The guy I bought it from had 2 sealed 50 cal cans of Israeli tz 80 marked ammo I bought for $450. Went on the internet and found out it is shitty ammo. One guy said his gun blew up from it. It's known to have brittle brass that causes case ruptures. Lot number is 10-80.

You are correct !! ...Don't shoot that stuff, I have 2 cans as well, from way back when. Pretty and dangerous.... you might get lucky and find someone with a 1919 machine gun that would buy it.

Guy I know who is a good shooting pal and being shooting rifles for 30 years said it should be fine in a bolt-action.

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