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Posted: 4/20/2016 8:39:19 PM EDT
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Nice. I need a 16". How do you like the stock? I keep debating on the fixed folder, that one or a zhukov.
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The stock is nice, and the switchable cheek rest helps. It's STIFF operation, but it's new and I expect it. Got a few rounds to try in it come range day.
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Also what kind of sights come on those? I thought I had seen Troy on them but I forget now.
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FDE rifles cause my brain to short-circuit good decision-making abilities.
I haven't been enthused in other 805 Bren threads, but now I want one in FDE. Hopefully the price comes down a little closer to $1500. Looking forward to your updates on it! |
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That's like 95% of the perfect rifle.. screw a reciprocating charging handle, though.
Hope you enjoy it, OP! |
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I'm hoping to, indeed. I got used to a reciprocating charging handle on the vz-58. though it's not QUITE the same thing. :) I'll put up some more pictures and video as soon as I get some time to hit the range.
COcz, I can't see any markings on the fold down sights, no idea what they are., sorry. I can say they are easy to use, has two flip apertures, one wide one narrow and the wide is what I'm going to start with, just feels better. |
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No time to run some rounds through it yet, just strip and clean. This feels perfect, just right. <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg</a> View Quote Armored man, where did you find one? Max |
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No time to run some rounds through it yet, just strip and clean. This feels perfect, just right. <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg</a> Armored man, where did you find one? Max This I want one. |
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How is the weight vrs. balance? Does it feel heavy or just right?
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That's like 95% of the perfect rifle.. screw a reciprocating charging handle, though. Hope you enjoy it, OP! View Quote Reciprocating CH along the rail is an injury just waiting to happen. Located at the ejection port, it's a non-issue. The 806 is an evolved 805. CH doesn't reciprocate, & other things have been improved as well. The 805 upper receiver was originally designed to use polymer, then CZ switched to aluminum, but they didn't change the dimensions to account for the difference in material strength coefficient, so the upper is thicker/heavier than it needs to be. The 806 rectified this oversight, among other things. If CZ releases a semi 806, I will most likely support their effort. Not saying it's not a nice rifle, but I'm just no on board with the 805. Call me if/when the 806 comes to town. |
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Reciprocating CH along the rail is an injury just waiting to happen. Located at the ejection port, it's a non-issue. The 806 is an evolved 805. CH doesn't reciprocate, & other things have been improved as well. The 805 upper receiver was originally designed to use polymer, then CZ switched to aluminum, but they didn't change the dimensions to account for the difference in material strength coefficient, so the upper is thicker/heavier than it needs to be. The 806 rectified this oversight, among other things. If CZ releases a semi 806, I will most likely support their effort. Not saying it's not a nice rifle, but I'm just no on board with the 805. Call me if/when the 806 comes to town. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's like 95% of the perfect rifle.. screw a reciprocating charging handle, though. Hope you enjoy it, OP! Reciprocating CH along the rail is an injury just waiting to happen. Located at the ejection port, it's a non-issue. The 806 is an evolved 805. CH doesn't reciprocate, & other things have been improved as well. The 805 upper receiver was originally designed to use polymer, then CZ switched to aluminum, but they didn't change the dimensions to account for the difference in material strength coefficient, so the upper is thicker/heavier than it needs to be. The 806 rectified this oversight, among other things. If CZ releases a semi 806, I will most likely support their effort. Not saying it's not a nice rifle, but I'm just no on board with the 805. Call me if/when the 806 comes to town. This reads like hands-on experience with both the 805 and 806. Did you shoot them side-by-side to determine all of that? |
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Since OP will NOT answer where he obtained the carbine it's best to ignore his posts especially the issue with the extremity.That belongs on another website.
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I'm not sure where he got his from, but deguns had about 10 in stock on Tuesday or Wednesday. I ordered one and it should be here tomorrow. And I believe CZ USA direct shipped the first batch to their first responder program members, which may explain how he got it early.
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I'm not sure where he got his from, but deguns had about 10 in stock on Tuesday or Wednesday. I ordered one and it should be here tomorrow. And I believe CZ USA direct shipped the first batch to their first responder program members, which may explain how he got it early. View Quote Appreciate the information. Thank you. OP is this just too much to ask? I guess it is. tcommack, good find. Their out now. |
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I answered you with the EXACT TRUTH, and you chose to add insults again. Please continue to enjoy your life, sir, and also note I deleted that picture because it apparently offended you twice now. See, still trying to be friendly and nice, even in the face of insults and profanity. Feels like I'm at work again. And I believe CZ USA direct shipped the first batch to their first responder program members, which may explain how he got it early. The truth will set you free. :) |
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What bullcrap. Instead of just answering a simple question you quote from some other thread. (Never did find the First responder) I'll make this clear like the only other thread on this page. I'm go to sit back and watch. You have an inferior product NOT the 806 2. Thanks for convincing me to avoid this product like the plague. CZ has really screwed up by letting you do their PR. Hope they and you are proud of yourselves.
Fixing to buy a Ruger SR556 Takedown. |
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Quoted: What bullcrap. Instead of just answering a simple question you quote from some other thread. (Never did find the First responder) I'll make this clear like the only other thread on this page. I'm go to sit back and watch. You have an inferior product NOT the 806 2. Thanks for convincing me to avoid this product like the plague. CZ has really screwed up by letting you do their PR. Hope they and you are proud of yourselves. Fixing to buy a Ruger SR556 Takedown. View Quote |
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What bullcrap. Instead of just answering a simple question you quote from some other thread. (Never did find the First responder) I'll make this clear like the only other thread on this page. I'm go to sit back and watch. You have an inferior product NOT the 806 2. Thanks for convincing me to avoid this product like the plague. CZ has really screwed up by letting you do their PR. Hope they and you are proud of yourselves. Fixing to buy a Ruger SR556 Takedown. View Quote Lol. You must be slow. He told you where it came from. And somebody else answered your follow up question. Fwiw, cz will not be selling the 806 to us in the foreeable future. |
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Easy on misc.
If an injured thumb offends him, and multiple attempts to communicate information to him are unsuccessful he may just not be able to handle an adult conversation and we could lose a potentially valuable member...... Anyway, neat looking rifle. Too expensive for me though, I'm "cheap". Get some more .223 ammo and shoot some groups and take some pictures to share. Thanks. |
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This reads like hands-on experience with both the 805 and 806. Did you shoot them side-by-side to determine all of that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's like 95% of the perfect rifle.. screw a reciprocating charging handle, though. Hope you enjoy it, OP! Reciprocating CH along the rail is an injury just waiting to happen. Located at the ejection port, it's a non-issue. The 806 is an evolved 805. CH doesn't reciprocate, & other things have been improved as well. The 805 upper receiver was originally designed to use polymer, then CZ switched to aluminum, but they didn't change the dimensions to account for the difference in material strength coefficient, so the upper is thicker/heavier than it needs to be. The 806 rectified this oversight, among other things. If CZ releases a semi 806, I will most likely support their effort. Not saying it's not a nice rifle, but I'm just no on board with the 805. Call me if/when the 806 comes to town. This reads like hands-on experience with both the 805 and 806. Did you shoot them side-by-side to determine all of that? Here's 1 example: hands-on guy obstructs CH with his thumb & causes a FTF. Also, Google-fu, reading, & shit: Source: TFB
...the second model Bren is an expected development. The Bren 805 rifle was originally designed for a polymer upper receiver, something that shows in its contours, which appear more well-suited to injection molding than milling. At some point in development, the material was changed to aluminum, but the receiver’s dimensions were not, resulting in an expensive and heavy assembly. The new rifle has an upper receiver apparently designed for aluminum from the start, which certainly brings the weight down, and mostly likely also greatly reduces cost. Note in the strained Google translation in the 3rd paragraph, just below the 2nd photo, the statement about the non-reciprocating CH on the 806. If CZ brings the 806 stateside, I will vote my approval via wallet. |
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Here's 1 example: hands-on guy obstructs CH with his thumb & causes a FTF. Also, Google-fu, reading, & shit: Note in the strained Google translation in the 3rd paragraph, just below the 2nd photo, the statement about the non-reciprocating CH on the 806. If CZ brings the 806 stateside, I will vote my approval via wallet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's like 95% of the perfect rifle.. screw a reciprocating charging handle, though. Hope you enjoy it, OP! Reciprocating CH along the rail is an injury just waiting to happen. Located at the ejection port, it's a non-issue. The 806 is an evolved 805. CH doesn't reciprocate, & other things have been improved as well. The 805 upper receiver was originally designed to use polymer, then CZ switched to aluminum, but they didn't change the dimensions to account for the difference in material strength coefficient, so the upper is thicker/heavier than it needs to be. The 806 rectified this oversight, among other things. If CZ releases a semi 806, I will most likely support their effort. Not saying it's not a nice rifle, but I'm just no on board with the 805. Call me if/when the 806 comes to town. This reads like hands-on experience with both the 805 and 806. Did you shoot them side-by-side to determine all of that? Here's 1 example: hands-on guy obstructs CH with his thumb & causes a FTF. Also, Google-fu, reading, & shit: Source: TFB
...the second model Bren is an expected development. The Bren 805 rifle was originally designed for a polymer upper receiver, something that shows in its contours, which appear more well-suited to injection molding than milling. At some point in development, the material was changed to aluminum, but the receiver’s dimensions were not, resulting in an expensive and heavy assembly. The new rifle has an upper receiver apparently designed for aluminum from the start, which certainly brings the weight down, and mostly likely also greatly reduces cost. Note in the strained Google translation in the 3rd paragraph, just below the 2nd photo, the statement about the non-reciprocating CH on the 806. If CZ brings the 806 stateside, I will vote my approval via wallet. Exactly my point... I had already read that blog post from TFB - and then read your "post" in this thread in which you more or less lifted that entire paragraph from that guy's review without citing it (that you have sinced attributed). Clearly, my rhetorical question and subsequent sarcasm was missed. We can all use Google to find official reviews. No one is debating whether or not the 806 is updated - that's a fact. ARFCOM is as useful as it is because most guys who post informal reviews in a tech forum actually OWN, or in the very least have shot, what they are posting about. And to that point, I've put about 500 rounds through mine since the weekend and have not run into the reciprocating handle once. If you shoot it correctly, which can be done, it's a non-issue. |
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What bullcrap. Instead of just answering a simple question you quote from some other thread. (Never did find the First responder) I'll make this clear like the only other thread on this page. I'm go to sit back and watch. You have an inferior product NOT the 806 2. Thanks for convincing me to avoid this product like the plague. CZ has really screwed up by letting you do their PR. Hope they and you are proud of yourselves. Fixing to buy a Ruger SR556 Takedown. View Quote What are you gibbering about? No one is impressed by your posting. Armoredman runs the CZ forum. Either he has connections and got that direct from CZ as a review/promotional offer or direct sale for mil/le/etc. |
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Exactly my point... I had already read that blog post from TFB - and then read your "post" in this thread in which you more or less lifted that entire paragraph from that guy's review without citing it (that you have sinced attributed). Clearly, my rhetorical question and subsequent sarcasm was missed. We can all use Google to find official reviews. No one is debating whether or not the 806 is updated - that's a fact. ARFCOM is as useful as it is because most guys who post informal reviews in a tech forum actually OWN, or in the very least have shot, what they are posting about. And to that point, I've put about 500 rounds through mine since the weekend and have not run into the reciprocating handle once. If you shoot it correctly, which can be done, it's a non-issue. View Quote Perhaps you can clarify why I need to cite something I didn't directly quote... Feel free to vote with your wallet. I certainly do. I stated a simple fact & threw in some personal opinion. Public forums are a bitch like that. It's great that you aren't finding the location of the CH an issue. CZ sees it as an issue, based on end-user feedback. It's just a fact. |
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Pardon me, but the reason I mentioned the charging handle issue to me is two reasons. I can't believe I was that dumb and I have no trouble poking fun at myself to make a point. I've lived long enough that I don't really care that much, as long as I get the message out, be careful. Not one other person who shot the rifle had any issues whatsoever, and everyone enjoyed it. I've been shooting the heck out of my Scorpion for quite some time and the setup has the flashlight high and to the left, and I've been training my thumb to sit right behind the tail cap...right where the BREN charging handle is. Oops. My bad. Now I swapped the charging handle to the opposite side, AK/vz-58 style, and I'll retrain to use it over there. Also, every round I fired AFTER that thumb buster was without issue, as I paid more attention to where I put my thumb! Also the other reason I put that in there is Master_Blaster brought up a valid point that I was expanding on, as it did personally happen to me. Even when I disagree with a person's overall opinion, I can still agree with portions of it that I find truthful without losing my mind. Lost that years ago, anyway, the day I said "I Do"...
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Quoted: Get some more .223 ammo and shoot some groups and take some pictures to share. View Quote I wanted to do that today, but the wind is out of control - rolling trash cans across the street and dusty conditions that remind some souls of sandboxes across the seas. Perhaps next weekend. |
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Perhaps you can clarify why I need to cite something I didn't directly quote... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly my point... I had already read that blog post from TFB - and then read your "post" in this thread in which you more or less lifted that entire paragraph from that guy's review without citing it (that you have sinced attributed). Clearly, my rhetorical question and subsequent sarcasm was missed. We can all use Google to find official reviews. No one is debating whether or not the 806 is updated - that's a fact. ARFCOM is as useful as it is because most guys who post informal reviews in a tech forum actually OWN, or in the very least have shot, what they are posting about. And to that point, I've put about 500 rounds through mine since the weekend and have not run into the reciprocating handle once. If you shoot it correctly, which can be done, it's a non-issue. Perhaps you can clarify why I need to cite something I didn't directly quote... Because plagiarism (ideas that didn't originate from you) isn't limited to quotes. The use of TFB info was as blatant as it was obvious. Bored with this clarification - off to rip my horseshit 805. ETA: at least the bold threat was... original |
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No time to run some rounds through it yet, just strip and clean. This feels perfect, just right. <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg</a> View Quote Such a cool looking gun. But that stock seriously makes me gag. I know, I know, function over form, guns are tools, whatever. If they could pretty up the ass end of that thing, I would need one. |
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What bullcrap. Instead of just answering a simple question you quote from some other thread. (Never did find the First responder) I'll make this clear like the only other thread on this page. I'm go to sit back and watch. You have an inferior product NOT the 806 2. Thanks for convincing me to avoid this product like the plague. CZ has really screwed up by letting you do their PR. Hope they and you are proud of yourselves. Fixing to buy a Ruger SR556 Takedown. View Quote JFC, unrustle your damn jimmies |
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Such a cool looking gun. But that stock seriously makes me gag. I know, I know, function over form, guns are tools, whatever. If they could pretty up the ass end of that thing, I would need one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No time to run some rounds through it yet, just strip and clean. This feels perfect, just right. <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg</a> Such a cool looking gun. But that stock seriously makes me gag. I know, I know, function over form, guns are tools, whatever. If they could pretty up the ass end of that thing, I would need one. I took some detail photos of the stock for others in case they wanted a closer look at what made you unhappy. I am asking seriously, what about it don't you like? I really don't know what other stocks could fit on here, but I am told that Manticore might be working on some accessories, perhaps a stock adapter. |
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I took some detail photos of the stock for others in case they wanted a closer look at what made you unhappy. I am asking seriously, what about it don't you like? <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20left%20side%20open_zpst7bajb2t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20left%20side%20open_zpst7bajb2t.jpg</a> <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20right%20side%20open._zpsslskgs3a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20right%20side%20open._zpsslskgs3a.jpg</a> <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20folded_zpsicpdfgye.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20folded_zpsicpdfgye.jpg</a> <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20hinge%20detail_zps0urhxjyt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20hinge%20detail_zps0urhxjyt.jpg</a> I really don't know what other stocks could fit on here, but I am told that Manticore might be working on some accessories, perhaps a stock adapter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No time to run some rounds through it yet, just strip and clean. This feels perfect, just right. <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/OOB4_zpsr7jhmex2.jpg</a> Such a cool looking gun. But that stock seriously makes me gag. I know, I know, function over form, guns are tools, whatever. If they could pretty up the ass end of that thing, I would need one. I took some detail photos of the stock for others in case they wanted a closer look at what made you unhappy. I am asking seriously, what about it don't you like? <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20left%20side%20open_zpst7bajb2t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20left%20side%20open_zpst7bajb2t.jpg</a> <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20right%20side%20open._zpsslskgs3a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20right%20side%20open._zpsslskgs3a.jpg</a> <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20folded_zpsicpdfgye.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20folded_zpsicpdfgye.jpg</a> <a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20hinge%20detail_zps0urhxjyt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20BREN%20805/BREN%20stock%20hinge%20detail_zps0urhxjyt.jpg</a> I really don't know what other stocks could fit on here, but I am told that Manticore might be working on some accessories, perhaps a stock adapter. Pics aren't showing up for me |
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Sorry, they look fine at this end. Photobucket hosting.
Edit to add, everything quit showing at Photobucket for me now, not sure what's going on. |
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For those who were asking, a VERY fast search led to one FDE BREN found for sale.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=554340208 |
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Something going on with photobucket. Some of my pics are showing up on other forums and some are not. When I got to photobucket it just clocks endlessly and won't show me the pics in my folder.
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Did a Google search for "photobucket down" and it seems the site itself has crashed. Oh well.
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Well, that's nice. So, back to where I was, Priapus Maxiumus, (nice dig at an old Roman fertility god, there), is this the same stock?
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Because plagiarism (ideas that didn't originate from you) isn't limited to quotes. The use of TFB info was as blatant as it was obvious. Bored with this clarification - off to rip my horseshit 805. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly my point... I had already read that blog post from TFB - and then read your "post" in this thread in which you more or less lifted that entire paragraph from that guy's review without citing it (that you have sinced attributed). Clearly, my rhetorical question and subsequent sarcasm was missed. We can all use Google to find official reviews. No one is debating whether or not the 806 is updated - that's a fact. ARFCOM is as useful as it is because most guys who post informal reviews in a tech forum actually OWN, or in the very least have shot, what they are posting about. And to that point, I've put about 500 rounds through mine since the weekend and have not run into the reciprocating handle once. If you shoot it correctly, which can be done, it's a non-issue. Perhaps you can clarify why I need to cite something I didn't directly quote... Because plagiarism (ideas that didn't originate from you) isn't limited to quotes. The use of TFB info was as blatant as it was obvious. Bored with this clarification - off to rip my horseshit 805. "Clarification"? Plagerism specifically meant passing off someone else's work as your own. Prince died recently. I just told you that without quoting a source. Is that "plagerism"? You have a long list of members to call out. I didn't claim the information about the 805 originated from me, & the information itself originates from CZ, not TFB. Maybe you better get a handle on the meaning of terms before using them in ignorance. Look up the definition of libel while you're at it. Get your facts straight, & don't you ever pull a stupid accusational stunt like this again, or else it goes outside this forum. Consider yourself warned. |
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I have been toying with the idea of SBRing one of the 805 pistols. Quite a few well under 1500.00 on GB.
The only thing I hate about them is the huge WARNING, read your manual blah blah gayness engraved on the side. WTF CZ? |
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I have been toying with the idea of SBRing one of the 805 pistols. Quite a few well under 1500.00 on GB. The only thing I hate about them is the huge WARNING, read your manual blah blah gayness engraved on the side. WTF CZ? View Quote I may have stated my opinion about it, but it's JMO. If it lights your fire & you have the means, then live while you're alive. Consider the political climate & the potential outcome of the upcoming POTUS election. I did & fo'ed x6 on NFA items. |
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Sweet new rifle OP. I just watched one of MAC's reviews one it and really want one. I have more wants than money.
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