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Posted: 7/20/2016 4:30:25 AM EDT
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I am looking at getting one, my only question is black or FDE? Will they offer any other colors?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:28:32 AM EDT
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I am looking at getting one, my only question is black or FDE? Will they offer any other colors? Those are the only colors as of now, but the FDE is cerakote. I would just disassemble it and cerakote it the color you want. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:45:25 AM EDT
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Those are the only colors as of now, but the FDE is cerakote. I would just disassemble it and cerakote it the color you want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am looking at getting one, my only question is black or FDE? Will they offer any other colors? Those are the only colors as of now, but the FDE is cerakote. I would just disassemble it and cerakote it the color you want. So black would be the best option, since the FDE is just a black rifle cerakoted in FDE? |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 12:42:34 PM EDT
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So black would be the best option, since the FDE is just a black rifle cerakoted in FDE? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am looking at getting one, my only question is black or FDE? Will they offer any other colors? Those are the only colors as of now, but the FDE is cerakote. I would just disassemble it and cerakote it the color you want. So black would be the best option, since the FDE is just a black rifle cerakoted in FDE? Not sure, I don't own the FDE (mine is black) but everything I've read says its cerakote. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 3:43:00 PM EDT
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Why would it matter? You can paint it either way. In fact, if it's Cerakote over anodize you've got even MORE protection, no?
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:20:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:44:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryReally dig that 806. If it was here I would buy it over the 805. Since it's not, I'm leaning toward getting the 805. |
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Posted: 7/20/2016 10:57:44 PM EDT
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Not sure, I don't own the FDE (mine is black) but everything I've read says its cerakote. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am looking at getting one, my only question is black or FDE? Will they offer any other colors? Those are the only colors as of now, but the FDE is cerakote. I would just disassemble it and cerakote it the color you want. So black would be the best option, since the FDE is just a black rifle cerakoted in FDE? Not sure, I don't own the FDE (mine is black) but everything I've read says its cerakote. Oh really?? That was my biggest hesitation with buying a Bren. The FDE ones are impossible to find! Now to decide if I want to sbr the pistol or get the rifle... which barrel length do the Czechs use for their military? |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 1:48:06 AM EDT
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Oh really?? That was my biggest hesitation with buying a Bren. The FDE ones are impossible to find! Now to decide if I want to sbr the pistol or get the rifle... which barrel length do the Czechs use for their military? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am looking at getting one, my only question is black or FDE? Will they offer any other colors? Those are the only colors as of now, but the FDE is cerakote. I would just disassemble it and cerakote it the color you want. So black would be the best option, since the FDE is just a black rifle cerakoted in FDE? Not sure, I don't own the FDE (mine is black) but everything I've read says its cerakote. Oh really?? That was my biggest hesitation with buying a Bren. The FDE ones are impossible to find! Now to decide if I want to sbr the pistol or get the rifle... which barrel length do the Czechs use for their military? They have an A1 and A2 variant, the barrel lengths used by the military are 14" carbine and 11" CQB. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:25:17 PM EDT
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How light is the FDE? I live on the East Coast and do not want a really light colored tan.
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Posted: 7/22/2016 12:59:07 AM EDT
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I just saw a FDE pistol in Joplin if you are on that end of OK.
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Posted: 7/23/2016 8:13:29 PM EDT
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How light is the FDE? I live on the East Coast and do not want a really light colored tan. Having a hard time deciding which to order, black or FDE. How tan is the FDE? |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:48:16 AM EDT
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I finally caved and ordered an FDE bren last night. Looking forward to receiving it obviously. I can't speak from first hand experience on the tan color but in a couple pictures I saw it seemed to be very similar to the MFT mags if you've seen any of those.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 2:07:43 PM EDT
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 11:13:10 PM EDT
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 12:13:59 AM EDT
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It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. I would agree exactly with the statements above. We still have the Bren 805 in the shop, the ARX-100 is long gone. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 1:19:27 AM EDT
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It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Thanks. I recently took my ACR back out to the range and was pleasantly surprised at how civilized it was to shoot compared to an AR. I don't recall much about the way the ARX shot, except that I really wanted a longer charging handle. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 3:32:59 AM EDT
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I would agree exactly with the statements above. We still have the Bren 805 in the shop, the ARX-100 is long gone. Sven Manticore Arms Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. I would agree exactly with the statements above. We still have the Bren 805 in the shop, the ARX-100 is long gone. Sven Manticore Arms Not really sure what you could make for the ARX. Grip, stock, & forearm are integral. Only things that come immediately to mind would be an add on 6 o'clock rail (already covered by Beretta) & improved BUS (plenty on the market already) Alternatively, if you could knock ~.5# off the Bren, that would be a plus. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 12:18:44 PM EDT
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What does the Bren muzzle device weigh? A direct thread Ti can would be a good fit
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Posted: 7/28/2016 2:28:26 PM EDT
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It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Do you think the material wasn't supposed to flex? Why does that mean it's "cheap"? I'm going to guess that it doesn't do so by accident or oversight. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 4:57:49 PM EDT
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Do you thinking the material wasn't supposed to flex? VWhy does that mean it's "cheap"? I'm going to guess that it doesn't do so by accident or oversight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's like the difference between a refined, built and beautiful $1200-per-night whore/"escort" from a foreign country, and a $50 romp in the alley with a cheap street corner slut. They'll both get the job done, make no mistake. But one of them is just boringly predictable, and the other is a fucking experience that you need to feel to believe. Care to cite specifics? It's hard to describe in words. The ARX is light but front-heavy, and feels cheap. Toy-like. It's a lot like the G36 when you're firing it; there's a bit of "give," some flex in the material. Not unlike comparing a polymer pistol to an all-steel one, but worse; it just feels cheesy as hell in your hands. The fact that you can see the top rail flexing doesn't help the "cheap" impression it leaves. The Bren just feels solid, like it's entirely one piece, and... Slick. Smooth, even more so than an MP5 or Wilson 1911. Like the BCG is riding on ball-bearings. The recoil impulse is strange; more stout than an AR15, but smoother, and somehow slower. More of a "push" against your shoulder rather than a slap. These are just generalizations, you'd have to shoot them side by side to get a feel for them yourself, and draw your own conclusions. Do you thinking the material wasn't supposed to flex? VWhy does that mean it's "cheap"? I'm going to guess that it doesn't do so by accident or oversight. I get no "cheap" feeling out of my ARX...  I think for some reason he is associating the fact that it is made mostly out of polymer with the whimsically "old timey" way of thinking that anything made out of plastic = cheap.
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Posted: 7/28/2016 5:15:45 PM EDT
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So I know a guy who has a scar 16s and doesn't even love it that much....any reason for him to get a Bren 805?
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Posted: 7/29/2016 1:44:02 PM EDT
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So I know a guy who has a scar 16s and doesn't even love it that much....any reason for him to get a Bren 805? Only if he wants one - no reason to convince someone to get something they don't want. :) |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 8:45:12 AM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker?
Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 9:46:11 AM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. I've found both the carbines and pistols locally. Just have to be patient. If you're looking for a specific model, that might be something you have to get online. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 9:47:05 AM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. I picked up mine from Bud's. If you don't have a 9mm sub gun yet, I would get the EVO YMMV. With todays political climate I would try to get both before the rush at election time. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 1:49:27 PM EDT
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I picked up mine from Bud's. If you don't have a 9mm sub gun yet, I would get the EVO YMMV. With todays political climate I would try to get both before the rush at election time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. I picked up mine from Bud's. If you don't have a 9mm sub gun yet, I would get the EVO YMMV. With todays political climate I would try to get both before the rush at election time. I don't have a 9mm sub gun but I just stopped by my dealer and they had an FDE Bren they got yesterday for $1800 so I bought it. Sort of an impulse buy. Going to test it out though today and see how it runs. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 3:26:09 PM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 3:47:14 PM EDT
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deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! Thanks. Haven't shot it yet but a couple things right off the bat I didn't like was the weight. They had a Daniel defense v11 there and that's what I originally went there for. The weight difference between the two is noticeable. Also, the reciprocating charging handle. Don't like those. You can switch it though and run it AK style and I think it'd be more out of the way. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 4:08:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2016 7:27:04 PM EDT
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Is the recoil similar to the SCAR?
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Posted: 8/1/2016 7:58:16 PM EDT
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Thanks. Haven't shot it yet but a couple things right off the bat I didn't like was the weight. They had a Daniel defense v11 there and that's what I originally went there for. The weight difference between the two is noticeable. Also, the reciprocating charging handle. Don't like those. You can switch it though and run it AK style and I think it'd be more out of the way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! Thanks. Haven't shot it yet but a couple things right off the bat I didn't like was the weight. They had a Daniel defense v11 there and that's what I originally went there for. The weight difference between the two is noticeable. Also, the reciprocating charging handle. Don't like those. You can switch it though and run it AK style and I think it'd be more out of the way. I agree it's heavy, I keep thinking of ways to shave off some weight, titanium muzzle device maybe and I wonder if there could be any weight loss on the handguard covers or pic rail. I need to pull off the beefy sights and weigh them as well. It screams to be SBRed. Originally I was thinking of doing that to the handgun but didn't want to wait the insane times that we're dealing with. Maybe CZ will sell pistol barrels you can swap out when the form 1 comes back. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 11:20:42 PM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. I got mine locally. I only know of one store in my area that's gotten them in. |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 1:18:23 AM EDT
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Is the recoil similar to the SCAR? Yes but with one caveat. The SCAR gives you 2 distinct impulses when the carrier cycles, with the Bren I only notice one. |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 1:20:02 AM EDT
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I agree it's heavy, I keep thinking of ways to shave off some weight, titanium muzzle device maybe and I wonder if there could be any weight loss on the handguard covers or pic rail. I need to pull off the beefy sights and weigh them as well. It screams to be SBRed. Originally I was thinking of doing that to the handgun but didn't want to wait the insane times that we're dealing with. Maybe CZ will sell pistol barrels you can swap out when the form 1 comes back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! Thanks. Haven't shot it yet but a couple things right off the bat I didn't like was the weight. They had a Daniel defense v11 there and that's what I originally went there for. The weight difference between the two is noticeable. Also, the reciprocating charging handle. Don't like those. You can switch it though and run it AK style and I think it'd be more out of the way. I agree it's heavy, I keep thinking of ways to shave off some weight, titanium muzzle device maybe and I wonder if there could be any weight loss on the handguard covers or pic rail. I need to pull off the beefy sights and weigh them as well. It screams to be SBRed. Originally I was thinking of doing that to the handgun but didn't want to wait the insane times that we're dealing with. Maybe CZ will sell pistol barrels you can swap out when the form 1 comes back. Hopefully I'll get my stamp next month, the ACR adapter will be done in 2 weeks from what I'm told. |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 8:58:11 AM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! Thanks. Haven't shot it yet but a couple things right off the bat I didn't like was the weight. They had a Daniel defense v11 there and that's what I originally went there for. The weight difference between the two is noticeable. Also, the reciprocating charging handle. Don't like those. You can switch it though and run it AK style and I think it'd be more out of the way. I agree it's heavy, I keep thinking of ways to shave off some weight, titanium muzzle device maybe and I wonder if there could be any weight loss on the handguard covers or pic rail. I need to pull off the beefy sights and weigh them as well. It screams to be SBRed. Originally I was thinking of doing that to the handgun but didn't want to wait the insane times that we're dealing with. Maybe CZ will sell pistol barrels you can swap out when the form 1 comes back. Hopefully I'll get my stamp next month, the ACR adapter will be done in 2 weeks from what I'm told. I was thinking cutting it to 14.5" with a pinned muzzle device would be nice too. Are you cutting your barrel? If so, how is that going to affect the gas system? |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 10:48:51 AM EDT
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I was thinking cutting it to 14.5" with a pinned muzzle device would be nice too. Are you cutting your barrel? If so, how is that going to affect the gas system? Nope, I have the previous year pistol version. I got it for a hell of a deal, saved almost $400 over the newer version. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 12:02:14 AM EDT
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Where is everyone getting the Bren from? Gunbroker? Cabelas had scorpions yesterday (yea I know but they are the same price as everywhere else) and I was all set to get one but now deciding if I should get a Bren first. deguns and if you email or call them they will give you a free shipping code. Never mind just saw you bought one, congrats! Thanks. Haven't shot it yet but a couple things right off the bat I didn't like was the weight. They had a Daniel defense v11 there and that's what I originally went there for. The weight difference between the two is noticeable. Also, the reciprocating charging handle. Don't like those. You can switch it though and run it AK style and I think it'd be more out of the way. I agree it's heavy, I keep thinking of ways to shave off some weight, titanium muzzle device maybe and I wonder if there could be any weight loss on the handguard covers or pic rail. I need to pull off the beefy sights and weigh them as well. It screams to be SBRed. Originally I was thinking of doing that to the handgun but didn't want to wait the insane times that we're dealing with. Maybe CZ will sell pistol barrels you can swap out when the form 1 comes back. Hopefully I'll get my stamp next month, the ACR adapter will be done in 2 weeks from what I'm told. I got in on that ACR stock adapter as well, I'm paid in full, good to hear we are about 2 weeks out. Now I need to find an ACR stock...anyone got any leads on one? |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 12:08:51 AM EDT
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I got in on that ACR stock adapter as well, I'm paid in full, good to hear we are about 2 weeks out. Now I need to find an ACR stock...anyone got any leads on one? The guy that is making the adapters has some, contact him and he'll throw it in with your adapter. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 1:09:24 AM EDT
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Recoil magazine did an article on the CZ bren and from what I gathered they appreciated the competition with the Scar but it had a few design faults and had a failure that resulted in the firing pin bending..and because of the design it couldn't be field stripped because of a pin that is designed to hold the BCG in place. Essentially the reason for the pin was because the engineers found it the easiest way to solve another problem. Sounds lazy to me.. but hey I don't own one so take everything I said as a retelling of a magazine article.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 1:32:08 AM EDT
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Recoil magazine did an article on the CZ bren and from what I gathered they appreciated the competition with the Scar but it had a few design faults and had a failure that resulted in the firing pin bending..and because of the design it couldn't be field stripped because of a pin that is designed to hold the BCG in place. Essentially the reason for the pin was because the engineers found it the easiest way to solve another problem. Sounds lazy to me.. but hey I don't own one so take everything I said as a retelling of a magazine article. That article was written like they wanted the Bren to be a failure. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 11:35:54 AM EDT
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Recoil magazine did an article on the CZ bren and from what I gathered they appreciated the competition with the Scar but it had a few design faults and had a failure that resulted in the firing pin bending..and because of the design it couldn't be field stripped because of a pin that is designed to hold the BCG in place. Essentially the reason for the pin was because the engineers found it the easiest way to solve another problem. Sounds lazy to me.. but hey I don't own one so take everything I said as a retelling of a magazine article. you mean the guy who thought the firing pin block was actually what retained the firing pin into the bcg and removed the actual firing pin retaining pin? who would have thought removing the part which actually retains the firing pin and shooting the firearm would cause the firing pin to come out and jam up the action. sounds much more like he doesn't understand the design and just assumed he knew how it all worked causing a failure due to misuse. 2 minutes of research of cz's parts diagram would have prevented this. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 12:01:06 PM EDT
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It's not like the bar is very high for writers of gun articles anymore. Probably hired him because his beard was the right length and he had the correct number of pockets on his tactical pants.
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Posted: 8/3/2016 12:16:17 PM EDT
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It's not like the bar is very high for writers of gun articles anymore. Probably hired him because his beard was the right length and he had the correct number of pockets on his tactical pants. Lol +1 |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 4:22:35 PM EDT
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It's not like the bar is very high for writers of gun articles anymore. Probably hired him because his beard was the right length and he had the correct number of pockets on his tactical pants. point taken 
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Posted: 8/3/2016 5:53:04 PM EDT
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I read the article and what I gathered was that they admitted they caused the failure but they didn't like the design of the bolt and carrier because of the pin. Mrgunsngear made a similar comment in his video.
RECOIL commented about how good the customer service was and overall the article came off as very positive minus the couple of quirks that they didn't like. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 6:58:12 PM EDT
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Just got my FDE Bren 805 carbine from CZ-USA. How would I get one of the ACR stock adapters? Also, what are the must have accessories / upgrades for the Bren? Thanks
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Posted: 8/3/2016 10:15:50 PM EDT
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Other than not having my approved Form 1 yet (shockwave brace in the pic) and the hand guard getting very hot i love mine.
027 - Copy by TX 556Mav, on Flickr 
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Posted: 8/4/2016 9:22:36 AM EDT
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^^^ scar vs Bren. How do you rate them?
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