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Posted: 9/20/2015 8:39:40 PM EDT
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6" .357 revolver
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Posted: 9/20/2015 8:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 6" .357 revolver edit: + wad cutters +1 This is why S&W makes the Mountain Gun  |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 8:41:59 PM EDT
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When I am out for "woods Walks" I usually bring Ruger Scout if I am in the mood to carry a rifle, sometimes its just a handgun. For handguns I carry a S&W TRR8 .357 magnum.
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Posted: 9/20/2015 8:51:59 PM EDT
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Whatever floats my boat that day
Usually for me its a 10/22 or my 500. Always a carry gun. |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 11:05:01 PM EDT
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What would you use as a hiking firearm? I have 14.5" LW Ar, mossberg 590a1, socom 16, ak, rem 700 .308. I'm thinking either the m1a with a 25 round mag or the mossberg. For side arms it's either a sig 1911, or glock 17. What would you choose and what ammo would you choose for it? out of these, the 590 |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 11:07:45 PM EDT
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What would you use as a hiking firearm? I have 14.5" LW Ar, mossberg 590a1, socom 16, ak, rem 700 .308. I'm thinking either the m1a with a 25 round mag or the mossberg. For side arms it's either a sig 1911, or glock 17. What would you choose and what ammo would you choose for it? Depends on where you are going hiking and what you are likely to encounter. If you are in bear country, one choice, if in deep Southern woods, another, if in mountainous terrain with open spaces, yet another. Length of hike also can change recommendation. Frankly, a heavy M1A with a high capacity magazine would be pretty close to the last thing I would want to tote very far. Either sidearm makes good sense, supplemented by lightweight bolt gun (mountain rifle style) in .308 as a reasonable compromise caliber, with a low powered variable scope ( 2-7x36) with a good comfortable sling, if you expect to encounter game in season or something that might want to cause you trouble - bear, mountain lion or such. |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 11:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever floats my boat that day Usually for me its a 10/22 or my 500. Always a carry gun.  |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 11:44:24 PM EDT
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Handgun....Glock 20. I like what 10mm offers with the right ammo. That or a G21 with a .460 Rowland barrel.
Rifle...depends. I rarely carry a rifle when I'm just out bumming around/scouting. On the rare occasions I do it's usually my beat up PD trade in Colt LE6520 and one 20rnd mag loaded up with 77gr BTHP's. Back east I may have been inclined to carry something heavier, but around here you can get into some brutal terrain where two hands are required just to climb up a hillside. |
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Posted: 9/20/2015 11:51:09 PM EDT
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From your list I would pack the AR and Glock. I generally pack a Glock 20 when bumming around in the woods. I do have a Ruger single six in .32 mag that I carry around sometimes just because it's a neat little gun and potent with my 100gr XTP hand loads.
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Posted: 9/21/2015 10:01:29 AM EDT
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I'm not lugging a long gun through the woods unless I'm hunting so from your list I'd carry the 1911 with a reliable hard cast in it. Me personally I strap on a Blackhawk in 45LC, because I like it but a 4" 357 would certainly be plenty.
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Posted: 9/21/2015 10:53:56 AM EDT
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Personally, I would not carry any of the long guns. They are too conspicuous and are borderline illegal during any hunting season. Why bait conflict?
That leaves the 1911, assuming it runs and you know how to shoot it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2015 10:54:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2015 1:20:13 PM EDT
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Is this what you carry when you are mouse hunting vs elephant hunting?
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Whatever floats my boat that day Usually for me its a 10/22 or my 500. Always a carry gun.
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Posted: 9/21/2015 2:11:39 PM EDT
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Whatever floats my boat that day Usually for me its a 10/22 or my 500. Always a carry gun.
I read that and just assumed he was talking about a Mossberg shotgun |
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Posted: 9/21/2015 2:28:08 PM EDT
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I've seen guys fly fishing in Alaska with folded mossberg 500's loaded with slugs on slings.
Down here, a .45 or 10mm is my choice. |
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Posted: 9/21/2015 4:15:23 PM EDT
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My S&W 645 is the gun I carry when I am carrying a gun in the woods for no specific reason.
Sometimes my G30 takes a walk instead, but it's usually my faithful 645 that keeps me company. |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 8:12:28 PM EDT
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We had a pretty good thread about this in GD earlier this year. I ended up going with a Marlin 1984 in 44 magnum. Light, handy, ten rounds, peep sight, a wide variety of loads (especially if you're a reloader), can be made good enough for squirrel, bear, or anything in between.
Here is the thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1744750_.html |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 1:20:56 AM EDT
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Of your choices listed, the AR and the G17.
If I had my choice, it'd be a .44 Mag revolver and a .44 Mag lever action rifle. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 10:28:29 PM EDT
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Probably my new Charter Bulldog with 240gr hardcast @ 800fps.
22oz with the rubber grips. 
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:50:18 AM EDT
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I only carry a pistol (CCW G19) and binoculars when I'm out scouting the farm for deer, or pistol only when working. If I'm going for a woods walk or hunting, I will take an AR or my .243 remington. We don't have animals that would try to eat me, so I don't need a hand cannon revolver or big bore rifle. I only carry a rifle for opportune coyotes or obviously when hunting, and the pistol is carried for the same reason it always is.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 12:21:30 PM EDT
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S&W mountain gun mine is a 7 shot 686 in 357 mag I like to carry 180 grain hps in it. you can get them in 44mag, 41mag, 45 colt, and 357 6shots why carry a 8lbs rifle when you can carry a 1lbs pistol. your just hiking in cougar county right 
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Posted: 9/25/2015 1:17:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2015 4:33:59 PM EDT
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I would never hike with a long gun unless I was hunting. For a hiking gun, I carry a 642. For a woods gun where I'm not covering huge miles or elevation, I like my GP100.
I think a handgun used in the "woods gun" role should be capable of hitting small game-sized targets at 25 yards and beyond. ETA: 642 carry ammo is the .38 Special 158gr. LSWC-HP and for the GP100 .357 it is the 158gr. cast LSWC or the 158gr. XTP. Both magnum loads using H110 or W296 powder. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:00:25 PM EDT
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Hunting appropriate rifle and a sidearm.
That rifle could be an AR, a 700 or even a 10/22. The sidearm could be an HK P30S or an HK45. I live in Mississippi so the only threats are unlikely - hog, bobcat, coyote. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 3:36:07 PM EDT
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I've found that weight becomes an issue for me when hiking. I generally am carrying my camp, a few days worth of food, and enough kit to outlast extreme weather for a few days. After carrying all that gear for more than a very short distance, I began to reconsider what Inthought was essentia, especially with regards to firearms.
If I'm hunting with the above load, I will leave a side arm at home or in the truck. If I'm hiking with the above load, then I'll bring along a side arm......either my Glock 20 or 329pd. I haven't found one firearm that covers all bases for me: lite weight, consealable, good for bears and or miscreants, and comfortable/easy to carry. |
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Posted: 10/4/2015 6:35:21 PM EDT
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I've been considering a trapper sized leveraction. Roughly the size and weight of a 10/22.
I'm gonna go with 357 cause it fits my needs but they have them in 44,45 and 454 |
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Posted: 10/4/2015 6:43:17 PM EDT
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Hiking ..... glock from what you listed
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Posted: 10/13/2015 7:23:43 PM EDT
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Personally my cabin and recreating area is home to wolves, bears and mountain lions, so I prefer a larger bore handgun.
A 4" or 5" Model 29 .44 magnum meets my needs quite well. Not too long ago I picked up a Glock G30S for when I want to go as light as reasonable, and still be shooting a larger projectile. The G30S has turned out to be an extremely nice little gun, with its slim slide, decent capacity, and ease of shooting. 11 rounds of 230 grain Gold Dot on deck, with a reload that consists of a G21 magazine with a +4 base plate equals a 17 round reload. I figure that 28 rounds of 230 grain JHPs will likely handle most animal issues I may encounter, and do so in a very light/compact package. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 7:44:56 PM EDT
[#29]
629-4 Mountain Gun
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Posted: 10/18/2015 11:53:27 AM EDT
[#30]
Depends on where I am and what/who is around. Generally a Glock 20 with Underwood 220gr hard cast if worried about animals or Hornady 180gr XTP if animals are smaller or bipedal. When working/recreating in Alaska, if we've encountered bears in our area and are unable to avoid the area for work, or if vehicle supported/camping, an 870 with slugs.
Depending on the trip, I have often carred a Ruger Single Six with the .22 mag cylinder stoked with Gold Dots or CCI shot. Though, on two recent trips when carrying the Single Six, my crew ran into aggressive animals larger that .22 mag. Also had an unfortunate incident with some very nasty folks in Northern Idaho on a family trip and reminded myself that there is nothing appropriate about a single action, 6-round .22 when people or threats are involved. Pretty much these days the G20 is my go to woods/field gun. With 16-rounds of a variety of ammo ranging from CCI shot to 220gr hard cast and everything in between, it is a pretty versatile and packable companion. |
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Posted: 10/19/2015 10:11:15 PM EDT
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G22 with spare 19 round mag & AR15 of some kind or sometimes my LR 243 I hike every weekend heat, rain, wind or snow its me and my two German Shepards......sometimes my wife comes along, she will pack us snacks
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Posted: 10/19/2015 11:38:41 PM EDT
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What would you use as a hiking firearm? I have 14.5" LW Ar, mossberg 590a1, socom 16, ak, rem 700 .308. I'm thinking either the m1a with a 25 round mag or the mossberg. Wow, you must have some seriously open terrain on your hikes if you're going M1A. I hauled an M14 all over the North Georgia mountains for 4 years and a) its heavy, b) the ammo's heavy, c) it's long and unwieldy in forested terrain, d) it kicks heavily when shooting during ambush drills so you can forget about putting a large amount of rounds downrange accurately and quickly to get out of a kill zone. To do that you have to go either AR-15 or AK-74. Go lightweight even if it's just a .22 but if you can tolerate the weight of an AK or AR so much the better. Save the M1A/M14 for a hurricane or other natural disaster and you have to absolutely shoot out past 300 yards, don't have to walk it around all day, and have at least six 20-round magazines to haul around for reloads. With an M1A/M14, you have to think that you're going after pot farmers and might have to engage them from 250-350/400 yards away and you want to bring enough gun to reliably reach out to that distance. Highly Highly unlikely you will be doing such activities unless you're a LEO. As a civilian being able to throw a rifle into a car or truck and having a pistol on you is at least in my mind the best way to go but YMMV. If you're hiking, having a high cap pistol with good ammo for what you expect to run into should be enough and if you carry a rifle, you're almost guaranteed to be looking down at the ground around your feet rather than outward towards a potential threat. Looking down at the ground when carrying a rifle has led to many a successful practice ambush on Hawk Mountain. For side arms it's either a sig 1911, or glock 17. Assuming you ditch the fantasy M1A for the above reasons, a .45 or 9mm with good hollowpoint ammo or heavy lead rounds for penetration should do just fine. If you're really worried, then get a Glock 20 with 200gr hardcast bullets using an aftermarket 6" barrel and a Guides Choice Chest Holster. 15 rounds of heavy hardcast bullets in 10mm makes a statement that's good enough in the lower 48. What would you choose and what ammo would you choose for it? |
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Posted: 10/20/2015 10:41:48 PM EDT
[#33]
If you want to hike with a rifle, join the army!
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Posted: 10/20/2015 11:00:30 PM EDT
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I think if I were to buy something it would be a Kel-Tec PMR-30 or the carbine the CMR-30
With what you listed I would say the Glock 17 or the AR |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 8:57:01 AM EDT
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G26 is my everywhere gun...
You don't typically need a hand cannon while CONUS... 
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Posted: 10/22/2015 11:28:15 AM EDT
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G26 is my everywhere gun... You don't typically need a hand cannon while CONUS...
Except in bear/cougar/wolf country 
And what does being CONUS or OCONUS have to do with caliber? |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 11:50:38 AM EDT
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Except in bear/cougar/wolf country
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G26 is my everywhere gun... You don't typically need a hand cannon while CONUS...
Except in bear/cougar/wolf country
And what does being CONUS or OCONUS have to do with caliber? Unless you're talking large bears an autoloader handgun seems adequate to me. I use a G23 for a bit heavier round. If I had to pack a 3 pound gun everywhere I simply wouldn't most likely. Not arguing, but a wolf, cat, and black bear isn't an unstoppable beast. |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 4:51:52 PM EDT
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It means that the wildlife in the lower 48 states doesn't typically require anything more that your average service calibers if you are merely hiking...
There are exceptions to every rule...
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Posted: 10/22/2015 5:47:43 PM EDT
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I hiked half of the AT this year (1,100 miles) without a firearm. I never felt like I needed one either....
Accountant |
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Posted: 10/22/2015 5:55:02 PM EDT
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G20sf for me. Lightweight and lots of bullets. I am not carrying around a long gun unless I am hunting.
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Posted: 10/23/2015 6:15:47 AM EDT
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I hiked half of the AT this year (1,100 miles) without a firearm. I never felt like I needed one either.... Accountant I walked 20 miles on mountain trails in West Virginia a while back. I ran into a bear on a narrow terrace at a range of 20 feet. I was glad I had a 44 on me. The bear did not press the issue. I didn't press the trigger. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 8:46:23 AM EDT
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I'm in Alaska, and I'm fine with 10mm for most places I go. G20 or G40 with DT 230gr HC. If I'm somewhere that I am likely the first person to walk there that day, I try to take a 12ga.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 9:49:29 PM EDT
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I always carry a youth model Marlin 336 30-30 if I venture far from the house. I live in the northern lower peninsula of Michigan and there are bears and big cats here. It's compact and I feel more comfortable with 6 rounds of 170gr Core-Lokt over 5.56mm in an AR. For a sidearm I usually carry a 1911 with 11 rounds of 230gr hardball.
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Posted: 10/24/2015 10:00:44 PM EDT
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I always carry a youth model Marlin 336 30-30 if I venture far from the house. I live in the northern lower peninsula of Michigan and there are bears and big cats here. It's compact and I feel more comfortable with 6 rounds of 170gr Core-Lokt over 5.56mm in an AR. For a sidearm I usually carry a 1911 with 11 rounds of 230gr hardball. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/awcrooks/Firearms/2014-11-24%2016.31.21_zpsmcs8fxqz.jpg That is a very fun looking rifle. You may have just cost me some money. |
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Posted: 10/24/2015 10:25:21 PM EDT
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In my area my 9mm Walther P99 is good medicine for whatever might bother me on a trail.
The only thing I ever came close to shooting was a dog. I had a King Cobra with my 148gr wadcutter reloads for squirrel. I did feel underammo'd, but the dog didn't bite so I never hat to test my ammo on the Shar-Pei-of-truth. On general principle I'd feel well equipped with a G20 and a spare mag. |
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Posted: 10/25/2015 9:30:05 AM EDT
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That is a very fun looking rifle. You may have just cost me some money. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always carry a youth model Marlin 336 30-30 if I venture far from the house. I live in the northern lower peninsula of Michigan and there are bears and big cats here. It's compact and I feel more comfortable with 6 rounds of 170gr Core-Lokt over 5.56mm in an AR. For a sidearm I usually carry a 1911 with 11 rounds of 230gr hardball. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/awcrooks/Firearms/2014-11-24%2016.31.21_zpsmcs8fxqz.jpg That is a very fun looking rifle. You may have just cost me some money. That's how I feel about my Rossi 92 in 357. 8+1 of 357 in a rifle the size of aa rimfire. |
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Posted: 10/25/2015 11:08:55 AM EDT
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Wow, you must have some seriously open terrain on your hikes if you're going M1A. I hauled an M14 all over the North Georgia mountains for 4 years and a) its heavy, b) the ammo's heavy, c) it's long and unwieldy in forested terrain, d) it kicks heavily when shooting during ambush drills so you can forget about putting a large amount of rounds downrange accurately and quickly to get out of a kill zone. To do that you have to go either AR-15 or AK-74. Go lightweight even if it's just a .22 but if you can tolerate the weight of an AK or AR so much the better. Save the M1A/M14 for a hurricane or other natural disaster and you have to absolutely shoot out past 300 yards, don't have to walk it around all day, and have at least six 20-round magazines to haul around for reloads. With an M1A/M14, you have to think that you're going after pot farmers and might have to engage them from 250-350/400 yards away and you want to bring enough gun to reliably reach out to that distance. Highly Highly unlikely you will be doing such activities unless you're a LEO. As a civilian being able to throw a rifle into a car or truck and having a pistol on you is at least in my mind the best way to go but YMMV. If you're hiking, having a high cap pistol with good ammo for what you expect to run into should be enough and if you carry a rifle, you're almost guaranteed to be looking down at the ground around your feet rather than outward towards a potential threat. Looking down at the ground when carrying a rifle has led to many a successful practice ambush on Hawk Mountain. [snip] But isn't the M14 The Ultimate Manly Battle Rifle? Back in the day, it gave the infantry squad the ability to be deadly at 1000yd, which the Army threw away when it went with the mousegun.
Seriously, to me, if you're going to reliably hit a man sized target at 400yd, you're going to need to be in a decent seated or prone shooting position. I can't imagine any realistic woods situation where that'd be considered a remotely court-justifiable defensive use of force . |
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Posted: 10/28/2015 7:56:29 PM EDT
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It all depends how far out in the woods I'm going to be. I like the 1950 Win 94 that my dad had as a light weight hiking rifle. My M&P 15 sport would do in most of the country I could walk in these days. The only hand gun that I have that would even remotely do the job in the woods is my New Blackhawk 45ACP/45 Colt convertible with the 45 Colt cylinder installed. It will take loads up to 25,000 PSI. So I would probably want some loads with 250 - 300gr LFN bullets. In Grizzly country I would want a 308 rifle/AR, or a 44 Mag/454 Casull revolver. A 45-70 Marlin guide gun would also do in grizzly country!!
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Posted: 10/29/2015 7:38:20 PM EDT
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When we say "woods gun," we need to be clear what we mean ...
Are we talking about a handgun or a long gun (i.e., carbine, rifle or shotgun), ... or both? To me, when someone says "woods gun," one of my Glock 10mm pistols immediately comes to mind. Lately, it's been this one: Glock 40. 
I just need to find the right holster for it. The one I'm using now is, more or less, just a make-do. 
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Posted: 10/29/2015 8:16:40 PM EDT
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I carry a 16in Marlin 45-70. It's overkill but I already own it.
I am looking at a .44mag lever gun that would also be nice. As far as a pistol goes I used to carry a .357 SA but it's gone and I will be looking at a .460 Rowland for replacement |
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