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Posted: 6/27/2015 1:14:11 PM EDT
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So the other day I went to my local ffl and asked about ar pistols. He stated the Atf no longer approved ar pistol building. I am in PA by the way and I'm having a hard time believing him on this one. So has the ATf really made a statement that a private citizen can no longer build an ar15 pistol or is he just giving me the run around? Well considering receivers are classified under "other" on the 4473, and can only be sold to someone 21 years of age or older since they CAN be built into a pistol... I'm calling BS |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 1:18:46 PM EDT
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Guy is full of shit dont you know you should always come here for legal advice
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Posted: 6/27/2015 1:24:00 PM EDT
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Time to find a new dealer.
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Posted: 6/27/2015 1:26:15 PM EDT
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He wants to sell you a Judge.
Thats all you need |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 2:16:22 PM EDT
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Time to find a new dealer. This |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 2:50:41 PM EDT
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Thats what I thought short of me shooting off my own letter to the ATF. I was just hoping I didn't miss something cause of the crap about the aft possible want to reclassify it as a sbr/aow.
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Posted: 6/27/2015 3:20:19 PM EDT
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not sure where you are in PA, but I would recommend finding another FFL.
my guy operates out of a hardware store built in the 1800s, $30 transfers. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 3:35:50 PM EDT
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Gun shop guy says...
I just smile and look at prices. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 9:52:52 PM EDT
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not sure where you are in PA, but I would recommend finding another FFL. my guy operates out of a hardware store built in the 1800s, $30 transfers. Im in SEPA, just found it really strange since he has been good about not BSing me, or may be he just wants me to but the DDMK18 pistol. It's nice but I'm not dropping $1,4 and some change in it. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:38:19 AM EDT
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Im in SEPA, just found it really strange since he has been good about not BSing me, or may be he just wants me to but the DDMK18 pistol. It's nice but I'm not dropping $1,4 and some change in it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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not sure where you are in PA, but I would recommend finding another FFL. my guy operates out of a hardware store built in the 1800s, $30 transfers. Im in SEPA, just found it really strange since he has been good about not BSing me, or may be he just wants me to but the DDMK18 pistol. It's nice but I'm not dropping $1,4 and some change in it. I'm guessing this is it |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:43:49 AM EDT
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Hmmm I'm interested in which dealer this is
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:59:32 AM EDT
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He is wrong. The transfer is done as 'Other.' It's up to you to make it a pistol first, if it will ever be a pistol.
There is no rule prohibiting pistol builds. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 8:10:35 AM EDT
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It is funny this thread came up. I had a dealer here in Virginia tell me the same thing a few weeks ago. He told me the change was being reclassified. I haven't seen anything about this myself.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:18:17 AM EDT
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dealer is full of it.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:38:06 AM EDT
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For some reason there is wholesale bullshit spewing from PA FFL's concerning building AR pistols.
You do have to be 21. You can build a rifle or handgun with it. You do not have to fill out the PSP handgun form (for the sales database that is somehow not registration) because a lower is not a handgun. If the FFL wants to argue or try to tell you different, go elsewhere. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 9:57:38 AM EDT
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Some of them are so full of shit.
when i did a sbr and a sbs a couple c3's told me i couldnt chop my own bbl. Had to pay a sot to do it. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:42:52 AM EDT
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I can't buy lowers anymore in CT and not claiming to know anything about this, but do you need a pistol permit to buy an "other" lower? If a person didn't have a pistol permit, I can see building a pistol would be no go. I'm only referring permit states.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:47:34 AM EDT
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I can't buy lowers anymore in CT and not claiming to know anything about this, but do you need a pistol permit to buy an "other" lower? If a person didn't have a pistol permit, I can see building a pistol would be no go. I'm only referring permit states. I just bought a stripped lower in PA. No pistol registration form needed. It transfers on 4473 as "OTHER". SEPA gun shops are full of fucking morons on both sides of the counter. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:49:41 AM EDT
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Never go back.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 7:07:09 PM EDT
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No prohibition on the Federal level. I know nothing of PA law.
Your dealer is probably confusing the various official and unofficial opinions regarding the use of the Sig Brace (also not illegal) and AR pistol builds. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 8:55:02 PM EDT
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I just bought a stripped lower in PA. No pistol registration form needed. It transfers on 4473 as "OTHER". SEPA gun shops are full of fucking morons on both sides of the counter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't buy lowers anymore in CT and not claiming to know anything about this, but do you need a pistol permit to buy an "other" lower? If a person didn't have a pistol permit, I can see building a pistol would be no go. I'm only referring permit states. I just bought a stripped lower in PA. No pistol registration form needed. It transfers on 4473 as "OTHER". SEPA gun shops are full of fucking morons on both sides of the counter. Theres a lot of worthless gun shops in the western part of the state too. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:26:59 PM EDT
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There can be that's why it's such a pain in the a$$ to get an answer for a question.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 1:28:42 AM EDT
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Time to find a new dealer. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 2:03:05 AM EDT
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Thats what I thought short of me shooting off my own letter to the ATF. I was just hoping I didn't miss something cause of the crap about the aft possible want to reclassify it as a sbr/aow. God, please dont write letters to the atf. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:05:33 AM EDT
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God, please dont write letters to the atf. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thats what I thought short of me shooting off my own letter to the ATF. I was just hoping I didn't miss something cause of the crap about the aft possible want to reclassify it as a sbr/aow. God, please dont write letters to the atf. This! Read the current regulations (published on the web), but for the love of all that's holy, don't write them a letter!!! |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 8:22:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time to find a new dealer. |
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