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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:18:20 PM EDT
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SCAR
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:22:53 PM EDT
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SCAR
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Posted: 12/20/2014 3:27:38 PM EDT
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scar
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Posted: 12/20/2014 4:06:47 PM EDT
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How is this even a question outside the realm of a video game?
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Posted: 12/20/2014 4:23:53 PM EDT
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HK91 ftw!
Love that gun. 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 4:37:27 PM EDT
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:28:19 PM EDT
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Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? you asked. you seemed to have your mind made up. Hk91 has seen a lot more action. A battle proven rifle. I vote for both. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:29:09 PM EDT
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SCAR
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:34:25 PM EDT
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Both rifles are reliable and would work fine for that purpose, but the SCAR is without question the more practical rifle.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:50:00 PM EDT
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Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? Didn't actually say it was better, just that I loved it :-) As much as I would like a SCAR, I already own a 91 and wouldn't want to ever part with it (hence my "love that gun" statement). |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:51:28 PM EDT
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There is absolutely no question ..........
H&K 91 
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:55:48 PM EDT
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Didn't actually say it was better, just that I loved it :-) As much as I would like a SCAR, I already own a 91 and wouldn't want to ever part with it (hence my "love that gun" statement). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? Didn't actually say it was better, just that I loved it :-) As much as I would like a SCAR, I already own a 91 and wouldn't want to ever part with it (hence my "love that gun" statement). I would not trade either one of my H&K 91's for two Scars. As far as accuracy goes ..... I have not missed anything I aimed the H&K towards. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 5:55:56 PM EDT
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Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? Are they more accurate? I would like to see that side by side. The HK is also far more proven. Once you put a rail on the HK optics go on easily and the rail takes all of 15 minutes to put on. The Scar is certainly lighter and more ergonomic and you dont have to rock the mags in. I would probably choose the Scar but the 91 is a solid rifle and I love mine. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 9:29:45 PM EDT
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HK91.
While you might have spare parts for both rifles, if/when those parts wear out you'll still be able to find HK/G3 parts elsewhere. Not so with the SCAR. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 10:12:58 PM EDT
[#15]
SCAR, hands down.
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Posted: 12/20/2014 10:16:05 PM EDT
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HK91. While you might have spare parts for both rifles, if/when those parts wear out you'll still be able to find HK/G3 parts elsewhere. Not so with the SCAR. ^^ This^^ 91 for the win |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 10:34:36 PM EDT
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I'm a large believer in squeezing every bit of performance out of a cartridge. So a vote for the '91 here, with it's 18-20" barrel.
If longer barrels were readily available for the SCAR, it'd be a no-brainer. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 10:46:14 PM EDT
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traded my 91 for a 17
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Posted: 12/20/2014 11:44:18 PM EDT
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HK91. While you might have spare parts for both rifles, if/when those parts wear out you'll still be able to find HK/G3 parts elsewhere. Not so with the SCAR. If this is a SHTF scenario, I'm not sure you'd find HK parts "everywhere". There are some specialized HK vendors, but unless you happen to live near one or you can still get UPS or FedEx after the apocalypse, you probably aren't goint to find many HK parts lying around. Still, the chances that you'll find HK parts are slightly higher than finding SCAR parts, but both pale to being able to find AR parts. Of the HK91 or SCAR, I'd probably take the SCAR mainly because it's lighter to carry around. |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 11:57:51 PM EDT
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If this is a SHTF scenario, I'm not sure you'd find HK parts "everywhere". There are some specialized HK vendors, but unless you happen to live near one or you can still get UPS or FedEx after the apocalypse, you probably aren't goint to find many HK parts lying around. Still, the chances that you'll find HK parts are slightly higher than finding SCAR parts, but both pale to being able to find AR parts. Of the HK91 or SCAR, I'd probably take the SCAR mainly because it's lighter to carry around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91. While you might have spare parts for both rifles, if/when those parts wear out you'll still be able to find HK/G3 parts elsewhere. Not so with the SCAR. If this is a SHTF scenario, I'm not sure you'd find HK parts "everywhere". There are some specialized HK vendors, but unless you happen to live near one or you can still get UPS or FedEx after the apocalypse, you probably aren't goint to find many HK parts lying around. Still, the chances that you'll find HK parts are slightly higher than finding SCAR parts, but both pale to being able to find AR parts. Of the HK91 or SCAR, I'd probably take the SCAR mainly because it's lighter to carry around. There are probably 1000 times as many 91 variants as Scars out there. Maybe not the case in another 10 years but I bet it outnumbers it greatly. One of those times I wish that data was easily available. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:03:41 AM EDT
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If this is a SHTF scenario, I'm not sure you'd find HK parts "everywhere". There are some specialized HK vendors, but unless you happen to live near one or you can still get UPS or FedEx after the apocalypse, you probably aren't goint to find many HK parts lying around. Still, the chances that you'll find HK parts are slightly higher than finding SCAR parts, but both pale to being able to find AR parts. Of the HK91 or SCAR, I'd probably take the SCAR mainly because it's lighter to carry around. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91. While you might have spare parts for both rifles, if/when those parts wear out you'll still be able to find HK/G3 parts elsewhere. Not so with the SCAR. If this is a SHTF scenario, I'm not sure you'd find HK parts "everywhere". There are some specialized HK vendors, but unless you happen to live near one or you can still get UPS or FedEx after the apocalypse, you probably aren't goint to find many HK parts lying around. Still, the chances that you'll find HK parts are slightly higher than finding SCAR parts, but both pale to being able to find AR parts. Of the HK91 or SCAR, I'd probably take the SCAR mainly because it's lighter to carry around. Not just in the US, but all over the world. The HK91 and G3 can be found pretty much everywhere. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:24:12 AM EDT
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scar.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 1:05:50 AM EDT
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Hard question. Love both.
The hK is simple. The scar is light and has rails. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 2:07:38 AM EDT
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Ergonomically the SCAR, for simplicity and reliability the HK91.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 1:59:25 PM EDT
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Until SCAR 17s become more numerous, I'll stick with the HK91.
Would love to see Magpul make a lower for AR10 and or G3 mags as well as a stock. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 4:45:48 PM EDT
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It's telling that, with those countries that had an option, the G3 was second string; Rhodesia and Portugal being two obvious examples. The G3's well on is way out in Germany and Scandinavia. It's not at all a bad rifle, but newer and better things have surpassed it, as is the normal progression.
On the subject of spare parts: How many spares does an individual rifle need? A bag of small parts with a couple sets of each part could keep a rifle going as far as it can. Granted, SCAR spares would probably be more expensive due to most parts going toward complete rifles, but that's offset by the rifle's lighter weight and far superior modularity. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 7:29:12 PM EDT
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As an owner of both a SCAR and HK91, if it came to SHTF I would grab the SCAR first.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 7:40:52 PM EDT
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SCAR 17 FTW. SCAR17 is lighter, cleaner, more accurate, adjustable stock, has better controls and is much easier to mount optics than HK91 which can be modified to do all things - but not as well.
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Posted: 12/24/2014 5:18:51 PM EDT
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HK91, but only if it had the paddle mag release installed. It's got a proven track record and is battle proven with a heritage that goes back to World War Two.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 11:10:44 AM EDT
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When I was a teenager I bought into the cool HK advertising in the gun rags of the 80s. My older relative had a HK 93 and I thought it ruled the 5.56 world of MSRs. Later in life after I got out of the Marines I was able to get some trigger a buddy's 91 and 93. That platform basically sucks IMHO. I would take a SCAR for all of the reasons mentioned above.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:00:21 PM EDT
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Scar
The g3 has an 18 inch barrel and the scar in civ version has a 16 inch barrel. Some fool will state that is a big difference. In reality it is a loss of at most 50 fps. Not something anyone would worry about. Parts avail of g3 is not a real issue. If it was get a fal |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:35:58 PM EDT
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Had both, only have the SCAR 17 now
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:53:38 PM EDT
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The 91.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 5:00:00 PM EDT
[#34]
I have both, and the Scar gets the nod!
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Posted: 12/27/2014 11:04:11 PM EDT
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If SCARs drop down to about $2200 or less (yeah right) OR if G3 mags somehow hike up to about $20 or more soon, then get the SCAR. Otherwise get a G3 and have a proper magazine release (i.e. the military paddle type) installed by a competent smith.
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Posted: 12/28/2014 8:57:08 AM EDT
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My vote goes to my 91 since it can do more tricks...with my registered sear and .22 conversion kit that is.
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Posted: 12/29/2014 4:46:37 PM EDT
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I would choose the HK91 (preferably a G3 through); however, I would choose a MP5A3 over either of the option listed.
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Posted: 12/29/2014 5:08:30 PM EDT
[#38]
91
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:05:16 PM EDT
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you asked. you seemed to have your mind made up. Hk91 has seen a lot more action. A battle proven rifle. I vote for both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? you asked. you seemed to have your mind made up. Hk91 has seen a lot more action. A battle proven rifle. I vote for both. Lol, and SOCOM doesn't use the scar 
That argument doesn't hold water |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 8:21:30 PM EDT
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Lol, and SOCOM doesn't use the scar
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HK91 ftw! Love that gun. Scar is more accurate, lighter more ergonomic, and easier to mount optic . So please share with us what does Hk-91 do better than scar ? you asked. you seemed to have your mind made up. Hk91 has seen a lot more action. A battle proven rifle. I vote for both. Lol, and SOCOM doesn't use the scar
That argument doesn't hold water Haven't they also broken quite a few of them too?? |
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Posted: 12/30/2014 1:03:41 AM EDT
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Got several Buddies that have taken SCARs downrange several times. They haven't broken them! They all have bought personal 17s. Comparing these is like a taildragger to tricycle gear aircraft- if it was better
 the would still be shooting the off carriers
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Posted: 12/30/2014 9:09:06 AM EDT
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How is this even a question anymore?
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Posted: 12/30/2014 2:08:55 PM EDT
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How is this even a question anymore? Because some people keep touting the SCAR anyways. |
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Posted: 12/30/2014 3:49:04 PM EDT
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FAL, M14, AR10, SCAR are all better than a G3/HK91
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Posted: 12/30/2014 5:56:23 PM EDT
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FAL, M14, AR10, SCAR are all better than a G3/HK91 
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Posted: 12/30/2014 7:55:01 PM EDT
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FAL, M14, AR10, SCAR are all better than a G3/HK91 No. |
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Posted: 12/30/2014 10:36:54 PM EDT
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I'm a huge fan of the G3. I believe it is the most reliable of the big three 7.62x51 cold war era rifles as long as M80 or equivalent ammunition is used. Its free floating barrel was ahead of its time. It does have a couple of flaws. Personal experience with my HK91 taught me that deviation from M80 equivalent ammunition turned 100% reliable into 100% awkward straight pull manual action. I've also been told by people, whose opinions I trust, that it doesn't take much of an impact to the side of the receiver to disable it. I sold my HK91 years ago, in a time of financial distress. Its role is now covered by a Scar17S.
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Posted: 12/30/2014 11:35:50 PM EDT
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I'm a huge fan of the G3. I believe it is the most reliable of the big three 7.62x51 cold war era rifles as long as M80 or equivalent ammunition is used. Its free floating barrel was ahead of its time. It does have a couple of flaws. Personal experience with my HK91 taught me that deviation from M80 equivalent ammunition turned 100% reliable into 100% awkward straight pull manual action. I've also been told by people, whose opinions I trust, that it doesn't take much of an impact to the side of the receiver to disable it. I sold my HK91 years ago, in a time of financial distress. Its role is now covered by a Scar17S. So, if the sheet metal receiver gets dented will it still function? What about the small pins and rollers that break and I have seen break. It's also bulky. You're really going to say that its more durable than an FAL or M14 |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 1:51:04 AM EDT
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So, if the sheet metal receiver gets dented will it still function? Notice the part in blue above? I specifically mentioned that as a weakness. I've never seen it in person, but I will acknowledge the potential problem. What about the small pins and rollers that break and I have seen break. It's also bulky. What small pins are an issue in the G3? I have to believe broken rollers would be from an improperly built G3, or one that has way exceeded its round count between armourer checkups. You're really going to say that its more durable than an FAL or M14 Yes, and I like the M14. 
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I'm a huge fan of the G3. I believe it is the most reliable of the big three 7.62x51 cold war era rifles as long as M80 or equivalent ammunition is used. Its free floating barrel was ahead of its time. It does have a couple of flaws. Personal experience with my HK91 taught me that deviation from M80 equivalent ammunition turned 100% reliable into 100% awkward straight pull manual action. I've also been told by people, whose opinions I trust, that it doesn't take much of an impact to the side of the receiver to disable it. I sold my HK91 years ago, in a time of financial distress. Its role is now covered by a Scar17S. So, if the sheet metal receiver gets dented will it still function? Notice the part in blue above? I specifically mentioned that as a weakness. I've never seen it in person, but I will acknowledge the potential problem. What about the small pins and rollers that break and I have seen break. It's also bulky. What small pins are an issue in the G3? I have to believe broken rollers would be from an improperly built G3, or one that has way exceeded its round count between armourer checkups. You're really going to say that its more durable than an FAL or M14 Yes, and I like the M14.
I never had much use for the overgrown, repackaged SKS that is the FAL. |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 4:52:22 AM EDT
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So, if the sheet metal receiver gets dented will it still function? What about the small pins and rollers that break and I have seen break. It's also bulky. You're really going to say that its more durable than an FAL or M14 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a huge fan of the G3. I believe it is the most reliable of the big three 7.62x51 cold war era rifles as long as M80 or equivalent ammunition is used. Its free floating barrel was ahead of its time. It does have a couple of flaws. Personal experience with my HK91 taught me that deviation from M80 equivalent ammunition turned 100% reliable into 100% awkward straight pull manual action. I've also been told by people, whose opinions I trust, that it doesn't take much of an impact to the side of the receiver to disable it. I sold my HK91 years ago, in a time of financial distress. Its role is now covered by a Scar17S. So, if the sheet metal receiver gets dented will it still function? What about the small pins and rollers that break and I have seen break. It's also bulky. You're really going to say that its more durable than an FAL or M14 I dont know about a FAL but my opinion is that it is at least as good as a M14 and my guess would put it on top. |
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