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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:54:10 AM EDT
I've got my families old dart gun, it's a H&R single shot, supposedly chambered in 32 ga, but with a rifled barrel for the dart. I've been wondering about trying to find a different barrel for it. Anyone have any experience with these? Is the receiver strong enough for a shotgun barrel? It looks plenty solid and the same as other actual H&R's I've seen, but I haven't been able to compare side by side.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:27:00 AM EDT
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You contact H&R / NEF yet? They will give you an answer. May not be what you want to hear, but you'll know if it's something H&R / NEF will do.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:30:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You contact H&R / NEF yet? They will give you an answer. May not be what you want to hear, but you'll know if it's something H&R / NEF will do. I planned to try and hunt down an extra barrel privately or maybe through a shop, but I bet I can't send this in to them.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:13:25 PM EDT
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here is a forum that specializes in H&R single shots:
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/hr-centerfire-rifles/ I'm sure that someone there can help you. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:44:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: here is a forum that specializes in H&R single shots: http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/hr-centerfire-rifles/ I'm sure that someone there can help you. I just find single shot guns so pointless I wouldn't want to spend much on it, especially since you can sometimes buy the real deal for $100 maybe less |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 3:48:29 PM EDT
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Yeah I've read a thread or two over there on these, guys collect them. Can't get too excited about joining a single shot forum! I just want to get this functional (if it's cheap), either barrel swap, or a machined down .410 adapter for a 20ga, whatever, open to ideas or suggestions. I just find single shot guns so pointless I wouldn't want to spend much on it, especially since you can sometimes buy the real deal for $100 maybe less Quote HistoryQuoted:
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here is a forum that specializes in H&R single shots: http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/hr-centerfire-rifles/ I'm sure that someone there can help you. I just find single shot guns so pointless I wouldn't want to spend much on it, especially since you can sometimes buy the real deal for $100 maybe less You should be able from posting the model & serial # there whether it can have another barrel fitted by H&R and, if not, what kind of coin you could get from it by selling to a collector. The .410 GA adapter being turned down may be OK, Never heard of it but that doesn't mean it cannot be done. Though may be cheaper just to buy a new .410 GA from H&R. Just a word of caution if you buy an extra barrel from that site, A lot of the early H&R frames were made from soft cast iron and will blow up worse than the Glock meme if used with a high pressure chambering. Be real sure of what you got before you pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 4:35:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Joining shouldn't be that traumatic since you're doing it only to get info on one beater and just don't log back onto the site when you're done. That is what I did. No biggie. You should be able from posting the model & serial # there whether it can have another barrel fitted by H&R and, if not, what kind of coin you could get from it by selling to a collector. The .410 GA adapter being turned down may be OK, Never heard of it but that doesn't mean it cannot be done. Though may be cheaper just to buy a new .410 GA from H&R. Just a word of caution if you buy an extra barrel from that site, A lot of the early H&R frames were made from soft cast iron and will blow up worse than the Glock meme if used with a high pressure chambering. Be real sure of what you got before you pull the trigger. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: here is a forum that specializes in H&R single shots: http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/hr-centerfire-rifles/ I'm sure that someone there can help you. I just find single shot guns so pointless I wouldn't want to spend much on it, especially since you can sometimes buy the real deal for $100 maybe less You should be able from posting the model & serial # there whether it can have another barrel fitted by H&R and, if not, what kind of coin you could get from it by selling to a collector. The .410 GA adapter being turned down may be OK, Never heard of it but that doesn't mean it cannot be done. Though may be cheaper just to buy a new .410 GA from H&R. Just a word of caution if you buy an extra barrel from that site, A lot of the early H&R frames were made from soft cast iron and will blow up worse than the Glock meme if used with a high pressure chambering. Be real sure of what you got before you pull the trigger. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 4:54:46 PM EDT
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Clean it up and hang it on the wall.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 5:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clean it up and hang it on the wall.  And it's really rusted up on the barrel |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:52:10 PM EDT
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I'm 99.9% sure that's a large firing pin cast SB1 frame (shotgun).
Just buy a used shotgun barrel off of the "for sale" section at graybeards. Or see if someone will trade you for it. Lots of good people over there. |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:44:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 99.9% sure that's a large firing pin cast SB1 frame (shotgun). Just buy a used shotgun barrel off of the "for sale" section at graybeards. Or see if someone will trade you for it. Lots of good people over there.  |
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Posted: 8/29/2014 11:15:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2014 12:28:38 AM EDT
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Now I'm more confused, here's H&R website picture: <a href="http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/Cody-Chloe_Toews/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-29-22-10-04_zps57fea86b.png.html" target="_blank">http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y401/Cody-Chloe_Toews/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-08-29-22-10-04_zps57fea86b.png</a> Here is my receiver <a href="http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/Cody-Chloe_Toews/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140829_221015021_zps542d7d11.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y401/Cody-Chloe_Toews/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140829_221015021_zps542d7d11.jpg</a> Yep Dart gun only. For $125 you can buy one of their single shot shotguns, out of some pawn shop. For another $125 , $250 you can pick up a nice used 12 or 20 ga pump. |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 8:42:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYep Dart gun only. For $125 you can buy one of their single shot shotguns, out of some pawn shop. For another $125 , $250 you can pick up a nice used 12 or 20 ga pump. Quote HistoryYep Dart gun only. For $125 you can buy one of their single shot shotguns, out of some pawn shop. For another $125 , $250 you can pick up a nice used 12 or 20 ga pump. And I hear you on buying a different gun. I bought a Western field (Mossberg) 500 from a friend for $150 or less. 30" full choke, wood stocks. Well, I already had a 30" full 870 (Much better shotgun IMO) so I put the western field barrel in the lathe and cut it off at 18.5", and ordered a hogue forend and pistol grip, have had a lot of fun with that! And yes, a pistol grip only shotgun is not good for much, I just like the size, only shoot birshot, and mainly use for skunks, armadillos, etc |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 4:23:30 PM EDT
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I've got my families old dart gun, it's a H&R single shot, supposedly chambered in 32 ga, but with a rifled barrel for the dart. I've been wondering about trying to find a different barrel for it, or somehow trying to make it usable, but a liner would probably get too expensive for me on a project like this. Anyone have any experience with these? Is the receiver strong enough for a shotgun barrel? It looks plenty solid and the same as other actual H&R's I've seen, but I haven't been able to compare side by side. Also this is legal right? The flare gun conversions and such make me think it is Reload? Magtech makes all brass 32 Gauge hulls. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119743/magtech-shotshell-hulls-32-gauge-2-1-2-brass-box-of-25 http://www.brownells.com/reloading/brass/shotgun-brass/magtech-shotshell-brass-32-gauge-sku100013040-56263-118659.aspx |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 4:33:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reload? Magtech makes all brass 32 Gauge hulls. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119743/magtech-shotshell-hulls-32-gauge-2-1-2-brass-box-of-25 http://www.brownells.com/reloading/brass/shotgun-brass/magtech-shotshell-brass-32-gauge-sku100013040-56263-118659.aspx Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've got my families old dart gun, it's a H&R single shot, supposedly chambered in 32 ga, but with a rifled barrel for the dart. I've been wondering about trying to find a different barrel for it, or somehow trying to make it usable, but a liner would probably get too expensive for me on a project like this. Anyone have any experience with these? Is the receiver strong enough for a shotgun barrel? It looks plenty solid and the same as other actual H&R's I've seen, but I haven't been able to compare side by side. Also this is legal right? The flare gun conversions and such make me think it is Reload? Magtech makes all brass 32 Gauge hulls. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119743/magtech-shotshell-hulls-32-gauge-2-1-2-brass-box-of-25 http://www.brownells.com/reloading/brass/shotgun-brass/magtech-shotshell-brass-32-gauge-sku100013040-56263-118659.aspx  |
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Posted: 8/30/2014 6:26:31 PM EDT
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Call H&R Tuesday and ask them what can be done.
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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Call H&R Tuesday and ask them what can be done. |
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Posted: 8/31/2014 1:40:28 AM EDT
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I've had several H&R/NEF singles and never knew they made anything like that.
That's a pretty cool find!. Thanks for sharing, and good luck with your project. Keep us posted.
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Posted: 9/9/2014 12:16:15 AM EDT
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If you haven't modified it yet and it's in decent condition, you could sell it to me and buy a different gun that you could use.
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:03:00 PM EDT
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OK I have been calling and calling H&R, I got a person to answer once, he transferred me and they never answered. I've been trying the last 2 days and just sit on hold forever until I hang up. They have no email address on the site.
I'm still trying to find a barrel locally but I'm not sure what I can get away with on this receiver. I'd like 20ga, but .410/45, or 22lr, anything like that, would be fine, if it can handle it. (I'm not worried about 22lr of course) |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:09:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you haven't modified it yet and it's in decent condition, you could sell it to me and buy a different gun that you could use. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:53:00 PM EDT
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So is it a .32GA or does it fire .22 blanks?
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:54:49 PM EDT
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Reload? Magtech makes all brass 32 Gauge hulls. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119743/magtech-shotshell-hulls-32-gauge-2-1-2-brass-box-of-25 http://www.brownells.com/reloading/brass/shotgun-brass/magtech-shotshell-brass-32-gauge-sku100013040-56263-118659.aspx Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got my families old dart gun, it's a H&R single shot, supposedly chambered in 32 ga, but with a rifled barrel for the dart. I've been wondering about trying to find a different barrel for it, or somehow trying to make it usable, but a liner would probably get too expensive for me on a project like this. Anyone have any experience with these? Is the receiver strong enough for a shotgun barrel? It looks plenty solid and the same as other actual H&R's I've seen, but I haven't been able to compare side by side. Also this is legal right? The flare gun conversions and such make me think it is Reload? Magtech makes all brass 32 Gauge hulls. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119743/magtech-shotshell-hulls-32-gauge-2-1-2-brass-box-of-25 http://www.brownells.com/reloading/brass/shotgun-brass/magtech-shotshell-brass-32-gauge-sku100013040-56263-118659.aspx Rifled bbl? Make your own 32Ga slugs? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So is it a .32GA or does it fire .22 blanks? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifled bbl? Make your own 32Ga slugs? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've got my families old dart gun, it's a H&R single shot, supposedly chambered in 32 ga, but with a rifled barrel for the dart. I've been wondering about trying to find a different barrel for it, or somehow trying to make it usable, but a liner would probably get too expensive for me on a project like this. Anyone have any experience with these? Is the receiver strong enough for a shotgun barrel? It looks plenty solid and the same as other actual H&R's I've seen, but I haven't been able to compare side by side. Also this is legal right? The flare gun conversions and such make me think it is Reload? Magtech makes all brass 32 Gauge hulls. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119743/magtech-shotshell-hulls-32-gauge-2-1-2-brass-box-of-25 http://www.brownells.com/reloading/brass/shotgun-brass/magtech-shotshell-brass-32-gauge-sku100013040-56263-118659.aspx Rifled bbl? Make your own 32Ga slugs? |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:28:41 PM EDT
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Gotcha.
Guns were made in the US into the 30s. A 158gn round ball load was offered for the Winchester 1886 RIFLE. Bore diameter is .526" Cast round ball slugs hand loaded in brass hulls would be my plan. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:31:49 PM EDT
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I was hoping someone could ID the receiver or say they put "X" barrel on one and it hasn't blown up!
The receiver is pre-1987, not an SB1or SB2. I think it's a shotgun/low pressure rifle receiver but would like varification before I try it. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 6:36:31 PM EDT
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Wanna trade it for a sb1 slug gun???
I'll hang it on the wall as a curiosity. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 6:47:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wanna trade it for a sb1 slug gun??? I'll hang it on the wall as a curiosity. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:15:11 AM EDT
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OP- I believe that has some collector value as is. I wouldn't be in a rush to try and make it into just another cheap, single-shot shotgun.
Just my $0.02
ETA- Why not just pick up a used, single-shot shotgun at a show. I see them all the time for ~$100. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 5:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP- I believe that has some collector value as is. I wouldn't be in a rush to try and make it into just another cheap, single-shot shotgun. Just my $0.02 ETA- Why not just pick up a used, single-shot shotgun at a show. I see them all the time for ~$100. |
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