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 XCRmonger
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Posted: 7/30/2012 1:24:09 PM
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Posted: 7/30/2012 1:31:15 PM
[Last Edit: 7/30/2012 1:34:00 PM by fastang50]
I've got a kahr 9, forget the model. I can't speak to the .40 but will give a word of warning that I wish someone had told me. Kahrs have a very short trigger distance from the grip, and a very long pull. I have average sized guy hands I think and it means the middle of my index finger is on the trigger to start, and at the break it's to my second joint. Not a good thing. I have to be very deliberate to get decent groups, which it's more than capable of, but doubtful I could do it under stress.
eta: I love XDs, but find them a bit large for CCW with a taller bore height than competing models. If the above comments about the trigger don't apply for the user, the kahr is an ideal carry piece in my experience. Light, easy to conceal, very accurate, and stone cold reliable so far. |
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RedFalconBill
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Posted: 7/30/2012 2:12:30 PM
Originally Posted By XCRmonger: My SO is considering a trade for a P40. Anyone shot one of these? Opinions? He currently shoots an XD40 Subcompact. The snap on that thing is atrocious, and he's just not happy with it. Do not have much need for the .40 S&W, but I own a K-9 and a P-9. My K-9 has the original 1/2" trigger pull (approx. 7lbs 4ozs), while my P-9 has the newer 3/8" trigger pull (approx. 7lbs 1oz). Both require concentration to shoot accurately at speed, and the P-9 can really bark with +P+ loads, but I love both of them. I also grew up shooting S&W revolvers (Model 34 kit gun and Model 27), so I do not mind the long trigger pull and reset these pistols have. If a local range has a Kahr available, rent one and see if he likes it. |
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DanTSX
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Posted: 7/30/2012 3:00:02 PM
Junk, like all kahrs
Have a few specific reasons addressing their design and durability. I'm tagging this to give you full response later on. At worky now. |
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Posted: 7/30/2012 11:09:55 PM
I had a Kahr .40 - forget which model - subcompact one. I had it last year, went back to Kahr twice.
total pos. could not get it too run reliably. would never buy one again. just buy a glock 27 and be done with it. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 12:16:37 AM
I bought a P40 in 2004 when Ohio passed its CCW law.After 8 years, thousands of rounds and a complete barrel and slide replacement it's still my everyday carry. the trigger takes some getting used to and you have to use the slide release to chamber but I'm completely satisfied with it. The slide/barrel replacement was due to peening caused by those thousands of rounds,but Kahr paid for everything including shipping and that is the only time i've had to send any of my 3 Kahrs back to the factory, hope this helps.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 1:07:22 AM
[Last Edit: 7/31/2012 1:07:43 AM by ronin556]
Never had the 40SW version but my PM9 and P380 are tanks and never had any problems with them.
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RedFalconBill
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Posted: 7/31/2012 9:52:12 AM
Originally Posted By J-L: I had a Kahr .40 - forget which model - subcompact one. I had it last year, went back to Kahr twice. total pos. could not get it too run reliably. would never buy one again. just buy a glock 27 and be done with it. The G-27 is thicker than the PM40. It is larger as well. The better comparison would have been to the P-40, which is a bit taller, but lighter. Here the G-27 holds 9+1, as compared to 6+1 of the P40. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 5:06:55 PM
I had a friend that bought a Kahr 40.
He has had nothing but problems with it. |
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vanilla_gorilla
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Posted: 7/31/2012 10:37:08 PM
[Last Edit: 7/31/2012 10:37:51 PM by vanilla_gorilla]
I traded into a P40 about 6 or 7 years ago.
Either because it was so light and thin, or because I have pretty big hands, that gun was brutal. My S&W .44 Mag does not abuse me like that little gun did. I was guaranteed to leave the range with my hand bleeding and stinging after shooting that little bitch. |
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Zergling
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Posted: 8/2/2012 3:08:54 AM
He should definitely try one before he buys it. I can't imagine it would be any better than the XD recoil wise. My P9 had more recoil than just about any other 9mm I have shot; noticeably more than a Glock 26 imho. Not terrible by any means but I would be shocked if it was an improvement from an XDsc.
I tried and tried but I just could not get any accuracy out of it. In hindsight, I should have had some buddies try it out and make sure it wasn't just the gun itself. Regardless, I had no confidence using it and just wanted to be rid of the frustration. Sold it and don't miss it at all. I can understand the appeal (thin and light) and mine never had any reliability issues. The triggers are very different from most semiautos though. I cannot recommend having him try one first enough times. Probably good advice for any gun. But particularly for Kahrs. |
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Posted: 8/3/2012 3:53:17 AM
I have a P40. Gun has been reliable and accurate enough. No problems with it for the 5 years I've had it. It does kick really hard. I recommend getting the P9 instead for less recoil and an extra round.
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Posted: 8/3/2012 9:50:36 PM
I have a P-40 Covert with night sights that I carry often. It flat disappears into a front pants pocket. After the initial break in period it has been totally reliable and very accurate. (Hornady TAP for carry.) It is indeed quite "snappy" as far as muzzle rise goes, but it's not uncontrollable. And I've got big hands so I'm not even getting a "pinky" grip unless I am using the extended magazine. But it definitely lets you know you don't want to be on the wrong end of it.
 If "snappy" is a deal breaker, he probably should avoid ANY sub-compact .40 IMO. |
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