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“Tell me what company you keep and I'll tell you what you are.” - Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'
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Originally Posted By cherenkov:
I went to the range today with the Cut & Pinned G28 on the ARX100 - cut at about 12.75" it functioned 100% reliable with 90 rds of IMI 55grain (recent Midway ammo) and 40 rds of 62 grain American Eagle from Acadamy Sports. Its on the normal setting. feeds ejects as previous., BHO grabs the way it should on several mags (Sig mag, Beretta Factory Mag, some no name polymer mag and M2 Magpul pmag. I did not try the Tula ammo as the range doesn't permit steel case ammo (except in AKs and SKS oddly enough) Tula is usually the cheapest but also the weakest of 5.56 ammo - so that one still needs to be determined, but so far = so good. The adaption of the flash hider is growing on me - I like it much better than the 16". The guys at the shop /range counter liked it a lot! Accuracy and point of impact was not changed noticeably (less than 25 yards on an indoor range and I try to sight it in for about a few inches low at 25 and it hit nearly where it did with 16". Accuracy (as far as I can tell) was close to previous- ( not great, not terrible, old eyes , bifocals and big red dot). It might be a little louder than before, but an indoor range might magnify that. View Quote |
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Can anyone report on the factory SBR 10.5" barrel and how it shoots suppressed?
Good sling solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwpFNXyhTpU&t=229s Shot 100 rounds or so through my ARX the other day. Ran flawlessly. Almost 700 rounds through mine with zero issues. I would like an aftermarket lower that could take AR grips and a wider variety of magazines. I also would like an aftermarket stock, or a factory stock, so long as it had QD sockets for mounting slings. I also wouldn't mind an extended rail, that was a bit less tall. The build in grenade launcher rail thing is unfortunate. I wonder if someone could laser machine or just machine that into pic rail so we don't have to use the pic rail adapter. An extended rail for more rail space would be nice as well. |
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Originally Posted By precisionphilosophy:
Can anyone report on the factory SBR 10.5" barrel and how it shoots suppressed? Good sling solution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwpFNXyhTpU&t=229s Shot 100 rounds or so through my ARX the other day. Ran flawlessly. Almost 700 rounds through mine with zero issues. I would like an aftermarket lower that could take AR grips and a wider variety of magazines. I also would like an aftermarket stock, or a factory stock, so long as it had QD sockets for mounting slings. I also wouldn't mind an extended rail, that was a bit less tall. The build in grenade launcher rail thing is unfortunate. I wonder if someone could laser machine or just machine that into pic rail so we don't have to use the pic rail adapter. An extended rail for more rail space would be nice as well. View Quote |
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"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato
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Originally Posted By TATBME:
Factory barrel shoots fine suppressed, but there’s a lot of gas to the face. View Quote Maybe it is better to just buy a factory 16" gun and have it chopped and the gas ports done custom to the right size? |
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No jets for us...I mean...one could make one I suppose if they had the cash.
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I lot of the gas comes from having a giant hole in the side of the gun for ambi-use. Thus why we're all waiting for LOS to finish the cover for such. It may not eliminate all, but will reduce the amount coming at your face.
I do think cutting a barrel and doing the gas ports would be better, but if you set it up for suppressed/ non-suppressed, there might be some problems with light ammo vs milspec stuff, not sure. |
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I had my local FFL who sells guns for $10 over cost try to get me a price on an ARX. Every single one of his distributors did not carry it, is Academy the only way to buy one new?
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"Americanism Not Globalism"
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No idea...but at Academy's price...I wouldn't go anywhere else to get it.
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I just don't want to buy one if it's going to be an orphan. Anybody here have an FFL that can check their suppliers?
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"Americanism Not Globalism"
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Assuming this will be ambi correct?
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Originally Posted By storminnorman:
I just don't want to buy one if it's going to be an orphan. Anybody here have an FFL that can check their suppliers? View Quote |
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More ARX military news: Qatar to receive first locally produced ARX rifles in 2019
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Safe to say that the ARX is far from being dead. I think we will see an A4 model the next year or two...maybe not as civilians...but who knows.
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From the perspective of getting the most optimized setup for running suppressed, minimizing gas blowback and gas to face, and running reliably and accurate, if I want a 10.5" ARX should I go with the factory SBR 10.5" barrel/kit, or should I buy a 16" ARX and have a professional (ADCO) chop the barrel down to 10.5" and re-do the gas ports?
Thanks for the input! |
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From what I've heard...you reverse the gas setting meaning when you chop the 16".
Factory setting meaning: N-non standard, weak ammo S-standard NATO ammo 16" chopped to 10.5": N-normal gas setting S-suppressor gas setting |
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Sent my ARX barrel off to ADCO for chop. I asked them to chop to 10.3"-10.5"
Also asked them to ensure there was enough shoulder to mount the Dead Air muzzle brake I left on the barrel. Original ticket was $140, we'll see if they charge extra to do the shoulder device, gas port work, or removing the roll pin to remove the gas block. I called a while back and they said for that kind of chop they'll just leave the gas ports alone. I hope it isn't too gassy. I want the EPC device bad. Also I've got this crazy idea to mill off the grenade launcher attachment section and mill in Mlok slots down there. Thoughts? |
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Originally Posted By precisionphilosophy:
Sent my ARX barrel off to ADCO for chop. I asked them to chop to 10.3"-10.5" Also asked them to ensure there was enough shoulder to mount the Dead Air muzzle brake I left on the barrel. Original ticket was $140, we'll see if they charge extra to do the shoulder device, gas port work, or removing the roll pin to remove the gas block. I called a while back and they said for that kind of chop they'll just leave the gas ports alone. I hope it isn't too gassy. I want the EPC device bad. Also I've got this crazy idea to mill off the grenade launcher attachment section and mill in Mlok slots down there. Thoughts? View Quote |
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For those without an Academy near by, Bud's has ARX's for $899.
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I picked up one recently at Academy and it has the 2 stage trigger. Very low serial number 2018 mfg date.
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Enjoy it. Then stock up on some spare parts from Brownells.
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Finally got around to putting a set of CZ Scorpion sights on my rifle, and I can't emphasize enough how happy I am with them. Just perfect on the ARX with a cheek riser.
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“Tell me what company you keep and I'll tell you what you are.” - Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'
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I’m on the fence about which option I should choose.
1. Buy an SBR kit, do a Form-1 and SBR the rifle I already have and switch and swap barrels when the mood hits me and have extra parts. or, 2. Buy the SBR version and have two complete rifles and hope Brownells or Beretta will have parts if I need them. Both will require ATF fees and NFA jail time. Both are almost equal in price. When I look at the parts kits and compare the prices of the parts at Brownells, the prices of the individual parts at Brownells are really expensive. |
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Originally Posted By Firecop203:
I’m on the fence about which option I should choose. 1. Buy an SBR kit, do a Form-1 and SBR the rifle I already have and switch and swap barrels when the mood hits me and have extra parts. or, 2. Buy the SBR version and have two complete rifles and hope Brownells or Beretta will have parts if I need them. Both will require ATF fees and NFA jail time. Both are almost equal in price. When I look at the parts kits and compare the prices of the parts at Brownells, the prices of the individual parts at Brownells are really expensive. View Quote The cost of buying a SBR barrel is oddly more than a new rifle! |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: Option 3 - Cut and thread the rifle length barrel to the SBR length - I cut mine to 12.7" for adding a "permanently attached" long brake and it functions well. I did the threading, crowning myself. You can get tools at CNC worrior and Brownells for DIY job. Cheaper than options 1 or 2 and have tools for future projects. The cost of buying a SBR barrel is oddly more than a new rifle! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: Option 3 - Cut and thread the rifle length barrel to the SBR length - I cut mine to 12.7" for adding a "permanently attached" long brake and it functions well. I did the threading, crowning myself. You can get tools at CNC worrior and Brownells for DIY job. Cheaper than options 1 or 2 and have tools for future projects. The cost of buying a SBR barrel is oddly more than a new rifle! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: Option 3 - Cut and thread the rifle length barrel to the SBR length - I cut mine to 12.7" for adding a "permanently attached" long brake and it functions well. I did the threading, crowning myself. You can get tools at CNC worrior and Brownells for DIY job. Cheaper than options 1 or 2 and have tools for future projects. The cost of buying a SBR barrel is oddly more than a new rifle! View Quote 1. I don’t have the mechanical equipment to cut a barrel. 2. I don’t have the knowledge or skill to know how to cut, thread and crown a barrel properly. 3. I don’t want a permanently attached brake to make it 16” again.To me, it would defeat the purpose of cutting the barrel in the first place. 4. I want the factory 10.5 barrel because I don’t want to take the chance of gas port issues. If it’s factory made as a short barrel there shouldn’t be any gas port issues. If there are, I would think that Beretta would fix it. I think I’m just going to buy the SBR kit and have extra parts. If Beretta pulls the same stunt Sig did with the 556, I’ll have parts. |
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Not a bad option honestly.
Considering how much a complete bolt carrier group costs. |
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Might be a silly question: is there supposed to be play in the barrel if you try to rotate it while it's in the receiver?
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Has anyone had trouble with the folding stock lock on the receiver ?
With the way it locks, i have a concern it may break off with typical usage. |
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ADCO just sent me return shipping for my barrel chop. We'll see how they did soon!
Sorely tempted to buy a second ARX now (16") for spare parts, and chop that barrel to 14.5" |
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Got barrel back from ADCO. Their turn around was super fast, and the work looks great! I can't wait to see how it shoots both suppressed and unsuppressed.
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
Safe to say that the ARX is far from being dead. I think we will see an A4 model the next year or two...maybe not as civilians...but who knows. View Quote I'm not sure why they haven't sold better (other than the appearance). |
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776:
It does feel "flimsy", and I was concerned too. However, I've read elsewhere about the same testing procedure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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There are no issues at all. It locks up tight. The plastic stock just feels cheap.
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776:
There are no issues at all. It locks up tight. The plastic stock just feels cheap. View Quote The material "feel" is a perceptual issue that you'll either overcome, or not. The rifle has been earning a sound rep for reliability & has held up well to abuse in the field. |
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776: The ARX is way under-rated. Its a really nice rifle with a lot of features at a good price point. It may look different from an AR-15, but that's a GOOD marketing strategy in an AR saturated environment. I'm not sure why they haven't sold better (other than the appearance). View Quote The downsides to the ARX are it’s looks, cost and availability of the proprietary parts and it’s relatively new. |
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ARX is now $900 new. Very affordable.
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Kel at Manticore has the same issue, which why Manticore doesn't make aftermarket parts for the ARX. Meanwhile, they support the CZ Scorpion, which is made of the same material. Go figure. The material "feel" is a perceptual issue that you'll either overcome, or not. The rifle has been earning a sound rep for reliability & has held up well to abuse in the field. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Firecop203: You said it. “AR saturated environment”. AR platform rifles are EVERYWHERE! The availability of parts from hundreds of sources and the ability to to self customize with a platform that has been around since the sixties. The downsides to the ARX are it’s looks, cost and availability of the proprietary parts and it’s relatively new. View Quote BCM Lower: $350-400 BCM BFH Upper w/o Handguards: $515 BCM BCG: $169 BCM CH: $49 Handguards: $30 That's $1113 to $1163 for a gun without a rear sight or magazine. For $900 the Beretta includes two mags, a nice case, a functional sling, and a set of POS sights (that work but are funky). |
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776: I see them online for around $900. I don't consider this an issue when a base line BCM BFH AR is over $1000: BCM Lower: $350-400 BCM BFH Upper w/o Handguards: $515 BCM BCG: $169 BCM CH: $49 Handguards: $30 That's $1113 to $1163 for a gun without a rear sight or magazine. For $900 the Beretta includes two mags, a nice case, a functional sling, and a set of POS sights (that work but are funky). View Quote Of course, the advantage of the ARX is that it's not an AR15, so we should really compare it to other non-AR15's from major manufacturers. So lets compare the $799 or 899 to SIG MCX prices, or FN SCAR's or any other such gun... :) |
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Yeah, I think it's only fair to compare the ARX to the other Gen 3 rifles... XCR, SCAR, ACR/MSBS and the CZ 805/806.
For some reason, ever since the ARX first came out people have been wanting to compare it to bottom of the barrel ARs and the Tavor. I've always thought that this thought process was kind of bizarre. |
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Originally Posted By GaryT1776: I'm not knocking the ARX. In fact, I REALLY like the gun. It isn't perfect (my biggest compliant is the tiny charging handle ... and that little slip on knob Beretta sells is a joke ... I've lost two so far). Overall, I'm a big ARX fan. The stock just feels cheap (similar to how SCAR stocks feel). View Quote |
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