Originally Posted By ShootingSight:
Can you provide details about how to pick up the sights via Fusion?  I looked at their website, but this was not listed.

Originally Posted By Frost7:
So, ARX-160 (A3 military, not the .22LR) accessories: two thumbs up for the LPA sights, one thumb up and one thumb sideways for the bipod.

LPA MAS7/T-MAS7s took some hunting to find since they are apparently not marketed in the US, but Fusion Firearms was able to hook me up. Same for the ARX-160 bipod. Not available here, but Brignoli Silvio over in Italy hooked me up. Ordered the bipod July 5th, got it around the 25th.

Biggest takeaway on both is they stay true to the ARX's focus on being lightweight and able to be operated in all facets using hands alone, or at most a bullet tip.

http://i.imgur.com/DcCnuLr.jpg

First, the sights. Both are locking flip-up designs, metal, and extremely durable and well-made, easily on par with Troys and LPA's other offerings. These are definitely not the shitty polymer factory sights. They are very, very nice. Their curves also go really with with the ARX cosmetically, IMO.

The front sights lock both down and up. To move them, you depress a small round button on the left and either raise or lower them. Adjustments do not need tools, as they have a handy little built-in wheel for adjusting elevation. No going out to rezero and realizing you forgot the stupid front sight tool on these.

They have both a black blade insert and a red fiber optic insert. I'm not sure if they were supposed to only come with the fiber optic as LPA's website makes it sound like the front sight comes with both, but the one I got from Fusion only had the fiber optic. No matter as I'd probably only use the fiber optic anyway. It's plenty visible when not illuminated, and is a nice unmistakable brilliant red out in daylight.

http://i.imgur.com/pzFa1Lo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mheAqQp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WWWT9Ce.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tBR7xXF.jpg

The rear sights also lock in place and are deployed by pulling up on a little spring-loaded shell-shaped section on the front of the sight and then rotating them up or down. They have a stop at 45 degrees where they'll click and not be able to be rotated back down unless you pull on the shell, but can be continued to be pushed forward. Not sure what the use for that is, but it's there nonetheless. The shell is more difficult to operate than the simple button on the front sights, but really not overly so at all; it doesn't require an inordinate amount of upward force.

Windage is adjusted by rotating either of the knobs on either side of the sight (they're linked). The thing I like most about these is the novel aperture system. You've got a wheel that can be quickly rotated with a finger or two to your desire aperture without obstructing your sight picture. There is a U cutout for close quarters, which with the red fiber optic front sight is actually surprisingly usable for both-eyes-open irons usage in daylight, making a pretty great ghetto red dot sight. Then a large circle for closer shooting, medium-sized circle for mid-range, and a tiny circle for long-range.

http://i.imgur.com/y93QD18.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dfpiEM4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9nzpn4N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vdefN94.jpg

(The sight base isn't rusted, for some reason the color came out weird rusty brownish on my camera. It looks like a very dark brownish black finish to the eye)

Looking through the U aperture:

http://i.imgur.com/QakuxnM.jpg

Only downsides are they don't sit quite as low as low profile sights, but it's really not an issue. My Steiner MRS sits VERY low and yet the irons when folded do not obstruct my view appreciably. You can just see the front sight sitting just below the holographic dot, and if you're shooting both eyes open, it's a total non-issue. Anything higher than RMR height shouldn't even have that.

http://i.imgur.com/KLw82fJ.jpg

The other downside is they are not low sights as I thought they were. I'm not sure if they're the same height as standard AR sights, but I believe they are as they're a bit taller when deployed than my Troy mediums that I had on hand. Honestly it actually works out really well with my MRS though. When folded, they are not in the way. When deployed, they are just above the top of the MRS. Perfectly usable.

At this point, I really like them and will be leaving them on my ARX as its main sights.

Then we have the bipod.

http://i.imgur.com/og7lHAF.jpg

I can't help it, but this bipod feels extremely cheap. Feels being the operative word though; it's a perfectly good bipod for the size and while it feels like you're going to snap it in half by breathing on it, in practice it is quite durable. I've already banged it up a good bit and used it for rapidly assuming a position and shooting and it stands up to the beating like a champ. It's made for Beretta by Brügger & Thomet of MP9 fame. It is emphatically not a precision-shooting bipod though; it's made for rapid use in combat and it shows. It's pretty clear being able to be deployed, stowed, and adjusted quickly and effortlessly without so much as a button press was the design aim for this bipod and it does that well.

Want to deploy it? Grab the legs in your hand and yank them backward you (made much easier by squeezing them together while doing so, but not necessary). Want to stow it? Grab the legs and shove them forward (again, made much easier by squeezing them together while doing so, but not necessary). Want to extend a leg? Grab it and pull it out to the desired length. The only time you press a button is to retract the legs.

http://i.imgur.com/LxiJsQS.jpg

It's not very stable on hard, slick surfaces, but does beautifully on rough surfaces, in dirt, on sand, or wherever else. It does not swivel, but it does pan. The bipod attaches via a QD mount and comes out of the box sized for the ARX-100 and -160's slightly wide polymer picatinny mini-rail. It locks on tightly, and uses the little ball with the B&T on it to extend the center of rotation a little further forward so that it's about under the gas block rather than under the rail. It can be tightened kind of like an ADM QD mount by rotating a little nut on the side. As it fits the polymer 6 o-clock rail perfectly and that rail is a bit on the wide side, you'll need to tighten it up a bit for the longer 6 o'clock rail if you use that instead.

Last thing about the bipod I really like? It is VERY light! My KAC precision bipod weighs in just under 14 oz. The B&T ARX-160 bipod? Just over 8 oz. You can feel the weight of it a bit, but it really feels like it's not even there compared to my KAC bipod or a Harris. Would I use it to go prone and snipe with? I wouldn't really prefer it, but that's not the purpose it's made for; it's made to be a very light attachment that is ultra-quick and totally no fuss to deploy and stow if you want some quick, situational stabilization.

It's also a great tool to keep the ARX upright for display.

http://i.imgur.com/TBUiUqN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MdRqobv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5xfBQOd.jpg

Originally Posted By Frost7:
So, ARX-160 (A3 military, not the .22LR) accessories: two thumbs up for the LPA sights, one thumb up and one thumb sideways for the bipod.

LPA MAS7/T-MAS7s took some hunting to find since they are apparently not marketed in the US, but Fusion Firearms was able to hook me up. Same for the ARX-160 bipod. Not available here, but Brignoli Silvio over in Italy hooked me up. Ordered the bipod July 5th, got it around the 25th.

Biggest takeaway on both is they stay true to the ARX's focus on being lightweight and able to be operated in all facets using hands alone, or at most a bullet tip.

http://i.imgur.com/DcCnuLr.jpg

First, the sights. Both are locking flip-up designs, metal, and extremely durable and well-made, easily on par with Troys and LPA's other offerings. These are definitely not the shitty polymer factory sights. They are very, very nice. Their curves also go really with with the ARX cosmetically, IMO.

The front sights lock both down and up. To move them, you depress a small round button on the left and either raise or lower them. Adjustments do not need tools, as they have a handy little built-in wheel for adjusting elevation. No going out to rezero and realizing you forgot the stupid front sight tool on these.

They have both a black blade insert and a red fiber optic insert. I'm not sure if they were supposed to only come with the fiber optic as LPA's website makes it sound like the front sight comes with both, but the one I got from Fusion only had the fiber optic. No matter as I'd probably only use the fiber optic anyway. It's plenty visible when not illuminated, and is a nice unmistakable brilliant red out in daylight.

http://i.imgur.com/pzFa1Lo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mheAqQp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WWWT9Ce.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tBR7xXF.jpg

The rear sights also lock in place and are deployed by pulling up on a little spring-loaded shell-shaped section on the front of the sight and then rotating them up or down. They have a stop at 45 degrees where they'll click and not be able to be rotated back down unless you pull on the shell, but can be continued to be pushed forward. Not sure what the use for that is, but it's there nonetheless. The shell is more difficult to operate than the simple button on the front sights, but really not overly so at all; it doesn't require an inordinate amount of upward force.

Windage is adjusted by rotating either of the knobs on either side of the sight (they're linked). The thing I like most about these is the novel aperture system. You've got a wheel that can be quickly rotated with a finger or two to your desire aperture without obstructing your sight picture. There is a U cutout for close quarters, which with the red fiber optic front sight is actually surprisingly usable for both-eyes-open irons usage in daylight, making a pretty great ghetto red dot sight. Then a large circle for closer shooting, medium-sized circle for mid-range, and a tiny circle for long-range.

http://i.imgur.com/y93QD18.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dfpiEM4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9nzpn4N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vdefN94.jpg

(The sight base isn't rusted, for some reason the color came out weird rusty brownish on my camera. It looks like a very dark brownish black finish to the eye)

Looking through the U aperture:

http://i.imgur.com/QakuxnM.jpg

Only downsides are they don't sit quite as low as low profile sights, but it's really not an issue. My Steiner MRS sits VERY low and yet the irons when folded do not obstruct my view appreciably. You can just see the front sight sitting just below the holographic dot, and if you're shooting both eyes open, it's a total non-issue. Anything higher than RMR height shouldn't even have that.

http://i.imgur.com/KLw82fJ.jpg

The other downside is they are not low sights as I thought they were. I'm not sure if they're the same height as standard AR sights, but I believe they are as they're a bit taller when deployed than my Troy mediums that I had on hand. Honestly it actually works out really well with my MRS though. When folded, they are not in the way. When deployed, they are just above the top of the MRS. Perfectly usable.

At this point, I really like them and will be leaving them on my ARX as its main sights.

Then we have the bipod.

http://i.imgur.com/og7lHAF.jpg

I can't help it, but this bipod feels extremely cheap. Feels being the operative word though; it's a perfectly good bipod for the price and while it feels like you're going to snap it in half by breathing on it, in practice it is quite durable. I've already banged it up a good bit and used it for rapidly assuming a position and shooting and it stands up to the beating like a champ. It's made for Beretta by Brügger & Thomet of MP9 fame. It is emphatically not a precision-shooting bipod though; it's made for rapid use in combat and it shows. It's pretty clear being able to be deployed, stowed, and adjusted quickly and effortlessly without so much as a button press was the design aim for this bipod and it does that well.

Want to deploy it? Grab the legs in your hand and yank them back toward you (made much easier by squeezing them together while doing so, but not necessary). Want to stow it? Grab the legs and shove them forward (again, made much easier by squeezing them together while doing so, but not necessary). Want to extend a leg? Grab it and pull it out to the desired length. The only time you press a button is to retract the legs.

http://i.imgur.com/LxiJsQS.jpg

It's not very stable on hard, slick surfaces, but does beautifully on rough surfaces, in dirt, on sand, or wherever else. It does not swivel, but it does pan. The bipod attaches via a QD mount and comes out of the box sized for the ARX-100 and -160's slightly wide polymer picatinny mini-rail. It locks on tightly, and uses the little ball with the B&T on it to extend the center of rotation a little further forward so that it's about under the gas block rather than under the rail. It can be tightened kind of like an ADM QD mount by rotating a little nut on the side. As it fits the polymer 6 o-clock rail perfectly and that rail is a bit on the wide side, you'll need to tighten it up a bit for the longer 6 o'clock rail if you use that instead.

Last thing about the bipod I really like? It is VERY light! My KAC precision bipod weighs in just under 14 oz. The B&T ARX-160 bipod? Just over 8 oz. You can feel the weight of it a bit, but it really feels like it's not even there compared to my KAC bipod or a Harris. Would I use it to go prone and snipe with? I wouldn't really prefer it, but that's not the purpose it's made for; it's made to be a very light attachment that is ultra-quick and totally no fuss to deploy and stow if you want some quick, situational stabilization.

It's also a great tool to keep the ARX upright for display.

http://i.imgur.com/TBUiUqN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MdRqobv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5xfBQOd.jpg


EDIT: Typos.

Originally Posted By nsl:
Oh, have any of you detected a slight side to side movement in the rear of the rail even on the newer rifles with the pin?
I can see just a hair of movement by watching where the metal rail slides over the polymer.
Probably not a big deal, but I'm going to try and get a sight that can be mounted in the area that the two screws on the rail are for a solid fit.

Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


The slight play in the rail should not be a problem.

I decided to remove the pin on mine and I haven't had any issues. The military ARX-160A3 does not come with the pin because it isn't part of the design and it isn't needed.

Originally Posted By SmartDrug:


Why would you remove it?

Originally Posted By 556Cliff:


My ARX is from the first run that didn't include the roll pin, so I contacted Beretta and they sent me a roll pin and a free mag. I installed the roll pin but found no real benefit to having it installed so I later removed it.

I would probably also remove the roll pin if I end up buying another newer ARX that includes the roll pin just to be more authentic to the original design of the A3 rail configuration.

Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
But wasn't it a matter of they just forgot to install a standard part?

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Why don't we get the larger A3 upper HG vents?  Perhaps it was addressed in a update to the  master mold that didn't follow the -100.  That much flex in an upper rail is kind of unusual, & not something I would expect in an precision optics mounting platform.  My pin stays in.

Originally Posted By Frost7:

They're a little high but not so high you can't work around it acceptably and accurately by going for more of a mid-jaw-weld.



I love the shit out of it. It's basically an RMR, just only a few grams heavier and changing the battery isn't a pain in the ass. Plus it's enclosed so you don't have random dust specks appearing in the reticle every now and then and necessitating a brush off with a lens pen like an RMR. It also has maybe 25% of the tint and distortion that an RMR has. Plus it has real auto-adjusting brightness with a forward-facing light sensor, not "auto-adjust" by way of light from the sides and top being collected on a fiber-optic. So if you do something like aim out into the blazing sun from a dark room, it will quickly kick the brightness up to full rather than washing out like dual-illuminated RMRs will.

Mainly I love it because it's holographic (laser) instead of LED. As I've mentioned elsewhere and I think in this thread, I have an issue with a very slight astigmatism in my right eye even though I have 20/15 vision. Causes things like Aimpoints to smudge out a bit and RMRs have little floating dimmer versions of the reticle nearby (why I only use the green triangle one and only on my M4 Super90 now). Holographic sights I have no issue with though and they resolve perfectly, so I prefer EOTechs as the center dots on those are nice and sharp. MRS is also a crisp dot to my eyes so it's perfectly to me.

As far as the rail, no issues here. If it moves, it hasn't caused my zero to shift, so... non-issue.

Originally Posted By Frost7:


Sure, you can buy from them off of the Amazon Marketplace (listed as Fusion Firearms) as well as eBay (they are seller whitetail1911). They don't come as a set so you need to buy the front and rear sights separately.

Rear sight is the LPA MAS7, front sight is the LPA T-MAS7.

Originally Posted By nsl:
How high is it from the top of the rail to the center of the lense on the Steiner?
Have you tried any other optics on the gun?
I'm playing with the idea of getting an Aimpoint Micro, AD CASV mount, and may Troy Micro sights.
Not sure how it is going to play out, so maybe it won't be an expensive mistake.

Originally Posted By runner6m:

Botach's got the ARX-200 on their site. I'm not sure how long it's been there, but maybe this is a sign of things to come? Maybe? Fingers crossed...

Botach ARX-200

https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4300/9j9zreeu/products/54042/images/127477/a1__34953.1500997100.1200.1200.png?c=2

Originally Posted By runner6m:

Botach's got the ARX-200 on their site. I'm not sure how long it's been there, but maybe this is a sign of things to come? Maybe? Fingers crossed...

Botach ARX-200

https://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4300/9j9zreeu/products/54042/images/127477/a1__34953.1500997100.1200.1200.png?c=2

Originally Posted By TATBME:
New light setup.

http://i.imgur.com/KLilaJV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wg4HxRP.jpg

Originally Posted By Frost7:


Looks like the CZ Scorpion/Bren sights.

Originally Posted By Frost7:


Looks like the CZ Scorpion/Bren sights.

Originally Posted By Frost7:


The small hole is 1 17/32 in. above the rail. The medium hole is at 1 33/64 in. Large hole looks like around 1 1/2 in.

They fold to a smidge higher than my Troy Mediums. Just measured the Troy Mediums on my 901 and they folded to 1/2 in. LPA MAS7s fold to somewhere betwen 9/16 and 5/8.

Originally Posted By Curare:
Are the factory SBRs LEO/MIL only?

https://www.botach.com/beretta-arx100-sbr-w-10-barrel/

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


No, but it would still require a F3 for transfer to a LGS, then F4 process for you (or a trust) to take possession.  Botach could theoretically have a govt-only policy for NFATCA transfers, but I'm not seeing anything stating so on that page.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


Just the facts, ma'am.

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:


It doesn't.  Don't know why you mentioned traders & collectors in this context, because it's a factory SBR in question, which does require the usual NFA form submissions.  Coming from off the factory doesn't mitigate that requirement.

Originally Posted By vellnueve:


I didn't. You mentioned it in your post.

Originally Posted By Johnson184:

Anyone? Would also appreciate some info on how well the ARX100 runs suppressed.

Originally Posted By Conqueror:
Those of you with the Shooting Sight trigger, do you like the rubberized coating?



I know that was an old question, but I coudn't see if anyone answered it. Runs great. Mine is a ~9.5" SBR. I'm still working on the gas system for unsuppressed fire, but suppressed, it runs great. Much less gassy than ARs since it can vent through both sides of the receiver and there's no charging handle next to your face. That was with a Saker, which I felt was too nose-heavy on such a light SBR. My Surefire Mini just got out of jail but I haven't shot it yet.

http://i.imgur.com/IbWsKBD.jpg

Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Magpul gen 3s don't work. The 2s work fine.

Originally Posted By vellnueve:


So do Gen 1s.

Originally Posted By sgwlower:
There is a ledge on the back of the mag to prevent "over insertion" in the SCAR. It gets caught going into the arx mag well and will not allow it to seat.