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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:25:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
They need to release the QD adapter like they originally promised. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Has anyone posted this yet? http://www.beretta.com/en-us/mission-adaptable/  PIC shows a larger sling mount adapter. It would be nice if those became available. They need to release the QD adapter like they originally promised. True, but we'll see those implemented on the new upcoming version. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 2:23:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
True, but we'll see those implemented on the new upcoming version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Has anyone posted this yet? http://www.beretta.com/en-us/mission-adaptable/ PIC shows a larger sling mount adapter. It would be nice if those became available. They need to release the QD adapter like they originally promised. True, but we'll see those implemented on the new upcoming version. What new version? The -200? That's vaporware. No word about a semi commercial variant thus far. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 9:49:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
True, but we'll see those implemented on the new upcoming version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Has anyone posted this yet? http://www.beretta.com/en-us/mission-adaptable/ PIC shows a larger sling mount adapter. It would be nice if those became available. They need to release the QD adapter like they originally promised. True, but we'll see those implemented on the new upcoming version. First I've heard of this, have a link? If they made a few changes to the gun I'd certainly be more interested. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:30:52 AM EDT
[#4]
According to a Berettta Rep. a new model is coming out. Looks a lot like the ARX200. A dealer friend gave me this info a few days ago, FWIW.
This may explain the recent price drop, and the huge availability of spare parts for the current model. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:39:41 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
According to a Berettta Rep. a new model is coming out. Looks a lot like the ARX200. A dealer friend gave me this info a few days ago, FWIW. This may explain the recent price drop, and the huge availability of spare parts for the current model. When you say it looks like the ARX200, do you mean to say it looks like a .308 frame? |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:57:09 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
When you say it looks like the ARX200, do you mean to say it looks like a .308 frame? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
According to a Berettta Rep. a new model is coming out. Looks a lot like the ARX200. A dealer friend gave me this info a few days ago, FWIW. This may explain the recent price drop, and the huge availability of spare parts for the current model. When you say it looks like the ARX200, do you mean to say it looks like a .308 frame? It will be 5.56 I don't know when we'll see the ARX200. But from what I was told, the new model in 5.56 looks very similar to it. We'll certainly know much, much more at SHOT. IMHO, a redesign was a long time coming. The current model just didn't do it for me, and those sling mounts are ridiculous. With that said, it probably has the best piston system out there, and I certainly welcome the new changes. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 12:35:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
It will be 5.56 I don't know when we'll see the ARX200. But from what I was told, the new model in 5.56 looks very similar to it. We'll certainly know much, much more at SHOT. IMHO, a redesign was a long time coming. The current model just didn't do it for me, and those sling mounts are ridiculous. With that said, it probably has the best piston system out there, and I certainly welcome the new changes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART:
Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
According to a Berettta Rep. a new model is coming out. Looks a lot like the ARX200. A dealer friend gave me this info a few days ago, FWIW. This may explain the recent price drop, and the huge availability of spare parts for the current model. When you say it looks like the ARX200, do you mean to say it looks like a .308 frame? It will be 5.56 I don't know when we'll see the ARX200. But from what I was told, the new model in 5.56 looks very similar to it. We'll certainly know much, much more at SHOT. IMHO, a redesign was a long time coming. The current model just didn't do it for me, and those sling mounts are ridiculous. With that said, it probably has the best piston system out there, and I certainly welcome the new changes. Interesting, I haven't heard anything about this. Since you say it looks a lot like the ARX-200 does that mean it doesn't have a quick change barrel or selectable ejection direction? Much like the ARX-200? Would this model be replacing the model that exists now? I have to say that if those two features were eliminated I would not be happy about it at all. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 2:17:24 PM EDT
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Perhaps the dealer friend was thinking of the CZ 806 Bren 2? Or confused the ARX-200?
Most of the ARX stuff is trickle-down from the Italian ARX-160, and aside from some of the cosmetic changes on the 160A3 like the larger cooling slots or the 7.62x39 variant the Kazahks are using, there don't appear to have been any major revisions to it seen in the wild lately. Nothing I've heard about the ARX-200 indicates a follow-on in 5.56 as well. I'm pretty sure Beretta doesn't even know what they're working on at any given time, so who knows.  I love new guns, so I would love to see an "ARX-2" but I'm not sure deleting all the features that make it unique to get there is the best approach. May as well just make a Beretta AR retrofitted with the gas piston from the ARX at that point. 
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Posted: 9/26/2016 3:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Findsman:
Perhaps the dealer friend was thinking of the CZ 806 Bren 2? Or confused the ARX-200? Most of the ARX stuff is trickle-down from the Italian ARX-160, and aside from some of the cosmetic changes on the 160A3 like the larger cooling slots or the 7.62x39 variant the Kazahks are using, there don't appear to have been any major revisions to it seen in the wild lately. Nothing I've heard about the ARX-200 indicates a follow-on in 5.56 as well. I'm pretty sure Beretta doesn't even know what they're working on at any given time, so who knows. I love new guns, so I would love to see an "ARX-2" but I'm not sure deleting all the features that make it unique to get there is the best approach. May as well just make a Beretta AR retrofitted with the gas piston from the ARX at that point. Nope. It was indeed a revised ARX100, as it was a Beretta Rep. and not one from CZ. As far as the ARX200 is concerned. The new ARX100 will resemble it, but how close, is anyone's guess. I don't like the keymod handguard. We'll certainly know more about this, and other fantastic offering such as those that will be offered by FN at SHOT. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 5:54:47 PM EDT
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Okay, I'm exited for Shot Show now!
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:41:19 PM EDT
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Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights
 Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:48:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Wow, my stock is solid as a rock. I finally get to run it like I really want to this weekend, I'll report back when I do. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:02:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. I think some amount of play would be normal on the sliding portion but I would really have to see it to know if it's comparable to mine. Mine does make some plasticy sounding sounds as well but it has never been an issue. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 4:07:28 AM EDT
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Hmm, this new of a new model is making me reconsider my recent purchase...
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Posted: 9/27/2016 10:18:24 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 10:25:30 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. Wow, that's some strong customer service. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 10:27:07 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. That's pretty good CS, you will probably end up changing out the sights for something else though. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:29:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
That's pretty good CS, you will probably end up changing out the sights for something else though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. That's pretty good CS, you will probably end up changing out the sights for something else though. I was surprised -- definitely didn't expect a new stock. Yeah the sights have to go. They're brutal. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 11:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
I was surprised -- definitely didn't expect a new stock. Yeah the sights have to go. They're brutal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. That's pretty good CS, you will probably end up changing out the sights for something else though. I was surprised -- definitely didn't expect a new stock. Yeah the sights have to go. They're brutal. I liked the MBUS PRO until I found out that the front sight would fold while shooting. I haven't yet tried to find a different set of BUIS since then. |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:16:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ: I was surprised -- definitely didn't expect a new stock. Yeah the sights have to go. They're brutal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ: Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ: Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. That's pretty good CS, you will probably end up changing out the sights for something else though. I was surprised -- definitely didn't expect a new stock. Yeah the sights have to go. They're brutal. I replaced the sights with Troy micro heights, since the stock is quite a bit lower than I'm used to (in comparison with the rail height). How long did it take for Botach to get your order to you? |
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:22:05 PM EDT
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Six business days from time of order.
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Posted: 9/27/2016 10:10:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sawgunner73]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frost7:
Five free extra mags? That is a pretty sweet promo! Mine should be coming in the mail tomorrow. Beretta gives you a promo code to use in their e-store, which of course waived the fee for the 5 mags. Bought my FDE ARX three weeks ago, and used a copy of the 4473 for PoP. |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 2:25:52 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
I liked the MBUS PRO until I found out that the front sight would fold while shooting. I haven't yet tried to find a different set of BUIS since then. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Originally Posted By SLAPPYROOTZ:
Received my ARX100 today from Botach. Rifle came with two front sights Hoping Beretta CS can help me out.
The stock has a ridiculous amount of wobble/play (enough that it makes noise and moves when shouldered) to it in all positions. Normal? The folding mechanism, however, does lock up 100%. Spoke with Beretta. They offered to send a rear sight and a new stock free of charge. Can't ask for anything more than that. That's pretty good CS, you will probably end up changing out the sights for something else though. I was surprised -- definitely didn't expect a new stock. Yeah the sights have to go. They're brutal. I liked the MBUS PRO until I found out that the front sight would fold while shooting. I haven't yet tried to find a different set of BUIS since then. Maybe try these from Zahal/Fab Defense. 
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Posted: 9/28/2016 10:33:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Maybe try these from Zahal/Fab Defense. http://www.zahal.org/files/images/fab/PR1/combo.jpg Thanks for the link, I will put them on the list of sights to consider. |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 11:34:31 AM EDT
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I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount?
Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 12:08:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount? Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. Troy Micro sights maybe? > https://troyind.com/backup-iron-sights/folding/micro-sets I would go with these myself but I would have to buy two different sets to get the front and rear combination that I would want. 
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Posted: 9/28/2016 1:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Troy Micro sights maybe? > https://troyind.com/backup-iron-sights/folding/micro-sets I would go with these myself but I would have to buy two different sets to get the front and rear combination that I would want. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount? Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. Troy Micro sights maybe? > https://troyind.com/backup-iron-sights/folding/micro-sets I would go with these myself but I would have to buy two different sets to get the front and rear combination that I would want. Right? Why no round rear with M4 front? And they're stupid expensive. |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 2:21:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sdrake100:
Right? Why no round rear with M4 front? And they're stupid expensive. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sdrake100:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount? Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. Troy Micro sights maybe? > https://troyind.com/backup-iron-sights/folding/micro-sets I would go with these myself but I would have to buy two different sets to get the front and rear combination that I would want. Right? Why no round rear with M4 front? And they're stupid expensive. Yep, that's exactly what I want and they have that combination with their medium sight sets. I just can't understand why they won't offer that combination with their Micro sets. They are for sure way to expensive to play mix and match with. 
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Posted: 9/29/2016 7:49:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount? Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. I'm in the same boat with my AUG, just wanted some decent back up sights to accompany my MRO with an ADM low mount. I wish you could actually purchase the CZ sights somewhere, besides buying the gun just for the sights lol, if you find a combo that works please let us know. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 10:52:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BB]
[#30]
Was thinking about buying the deal from Botach on the FDE ARX100 for $1100; any idea what the new rifle might have different?
What ever happened with the 7.62x39 conversions? |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 11:05:50 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmarkma:
I'm in the same boat with my AUG, just wanted some decent back up sights to accompany my MRO with an ADM low mount. I wish you could actually purchase the CZ sights somewhere, besides buying the gun just for the sights lol, if you find a combo that works please let us know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmarkma:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount? Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. I'm in the same boat with my AUG, just wanted some decent back up sights to accompany my MRO with an ADM low mount. I wish you could actually purchase the CZ sights somewhere, besides buying the gun just for the sights lol, if you find a combo that works please let us know. Hmm... I have a CZ Scorpion carbine now... I could slap the irons on my ARX to see what they behave like. Though I have a somewhat tall optic on it now (Lucid HD7), and a cheek rest that makes it work very well for me. I'm actually going to look into getting folding offset irons to use as backups, and eventually a 1-6 or 1-8x optic on it. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 11:18:28 AM EDT
[#32]
I actually took mine off my Bren, I might just throw those on there. Only thing is the big ass CZ on the side
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Posted: 9/29/2016 11:27:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Hmm... I have a CZ Scorpion carbine now... I could slap the irons on my ARX to see what they behave like. Though I have a somewhat tall optic on it now (Lucid HD7), and a cheek rest that makes it work very well for me. I'm actually going to look into getting folding offset irons to use as backups, and eventually a 1-6 or 1-8x optic on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By jmarkma:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
I have the low mount on my MRO for the ARX, I find it's more natural since the rail is so high. Does anyone know of some good iron sights that would match up with the low mount? Something that sits about as high as the CZ scorpion sights would be ideal. I'm in the same boat with my AUG, just wanted some decent back up sights to accompany my MRO with an ADM low mount. I wish you could actually purchase the CZ sights somewhere, besides buying the gun just for the sights lol, if you find a combo that works please let us know. Hmm... I have a CZ Scorpion carbine now... I could slap the irons on my ARX to see what they behave like. Though I have a somewhat tall optic on it now (Lucid HD7), and a cheek rest that makes it work very well for me. I'm actually going to look into getting folding offset irons to use as backups, and eventually a 1-6 or 1-8x optic on it. Offset irons are no bueno on the AUG. The new Leupold D-EVO would be a really cool secondary sight if it wasn't for the price tag. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 2:43:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB:
Was thinking about buying the deal from Botach on the FDE ARX100 for $1100; any idea what the new rifle might have different? What ever happened with the 7.62x39 conversions? All of the conversion calibers are non existent at this point. As far as the rumored new version of the ARX-100, it sounds like a scaled down version of the ARX-200. So while you might gain improved accuracy, Keymod handguards, built in QD sling mounts and a stock with a cheek riser, you would also loose the current easy QD barrel system and selectable ejection direction. This is all just a guess though. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 9:11:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PAESAN]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
I actually took mine off my Bren, I might just throw those on there. Only thing is the big ass CZ on the side .I had an extra set of EVO sights that I threw on mine. Haven't shot it yet but the fixed low-pro sights work well with the low cheek weld. They look good too. Re: the logo, I'm glad I'm not the only one this would bother
On another note... anyone pinned and welded an ARX barrel to 14.5? |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 6:21:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
All of the conversion calibers are non existent at this point. As far as the rumored new version of the ARX-100, it sounds like a scaled down version of the ARX-200. So while you might gain improved accuracy, Keymod handguards, built in QD sling mounts and a stock with a cheek riser, you would also loose the current easy QD barrel system and selectable ejection direction. This is all just a guess though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By BB:
Was thinking about buying the deal from Botach on the FDE ARX100 for $1100; any idea what the new rifle might have different? What ever happened with the 7.62x39 conversions? All of the conversion calibers are non existent at this point. As far as the rumored new version of the ARX-100, it sounds like a scaled down version of the ARX-200. So while you might gain improved accuracy, Keymod handguards, built in QD sling mounts and a stock with a cheek riser, you would also loose the current easy QD barrel system and selectable ejection direction. This is all just a guess though. I'd wager it will be an ARX "L" with the QD bbl. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 8:07:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
I'd wager it will be an ARX "L" with the QD bbl. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By BB:
Was thinking about buying the deal from Botach on the FDE ARX100 for $1100; any idea what the new rifle might have different? What ever happened with the 7.62x39 conversions? All of the conversion calibers are non existent at this point. As far as the rumored new version of the ARX-100, it sounds like a scaled down version of the ARX-200. So while you might gain improved accuracy, Keymod handguards, built in QD sling mounts and a stock with a cheek riser, you would also loose the current easy QD barrel system and selectable ejection direction. This is all just a guess though. I'd wager it will be an ARX "L" with the QD bbl. Technically even the ARX-200 has a QD barrel, it's just not QD by current ARX-100 standards. I think the current model will stay and this new model is going to be a DMR or "sniper" version. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 11:34:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Technically even the ARX-200 has a QD barrel, it's just not QD by current ARX-100 standards. I think the current model will stay and this new model is going to be a DMR or "sniper" version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By BB:
Was thinking about buying the deal from Botach on the FDE ARX100 for $1100; any idea what the new rifle might have different? What ever happened with the 7.62x39 conversions? All of the conversion calibers are non existent at this point. As far as the rumored new version of the ARX-100, it sounds like a scaled down version of the ARX-200. So while you might gain improved accuracy, Keymod handguards, built in QD sling mounts and a stock with a cheek riser, you would also loose the current easy QD barrel system and selectable ejection direction. This is all just a guess though. I'd wager it will be an ARX "L" with the QD bbl. Technically even the ARX-200 has a QD barrel, it's just not QD by current ARX-100 standards. I think the current model will stay and this new model is going to be a DMR or "sniper" version. "Easy" or " user level servicable", maybe. If it requires a tool, it's not " quick" IMO. The -200 chassis is modular, configurable in both std & DMR flavors, so if this "light" rifle is in that same mold, it'll be likewise. I'm surprised Beretta is moving fwd with this change. They aren't usually known for being this "agile". |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 11:54:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
I'm surprised Beretta is moving fwd with this change. They aren't usually known for being this "agile". I'm surprised too but I'll be even more surprised if we actually hear anything about this at the next Shot Show. 
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Posted: 10/1/2016 9:06:52 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
I'm surprised too but I'll be even more surprised if we actually hear anything about this at the next Shot Show. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
I'm surprised Beretta is moving fwd with this change. They aren't usually known for being this "agile". I'm surprised too but I'll be even more surprised if we actually hear anything about this at the next Shot Show. I'd be surprised if we get more than a promise of an updated ARX100 at this Shot Show, a prototype to look at by 2018 and it ships before 2020. |
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Posted: 10/1/2016 10:48:00 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
I'd be surprised if we get more than a promise of an updated ARX100 at this Shot Show, a prototype to look at by 2018 and it ships before 2020. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bullet_:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
I'm surprised Beretta is moving fwd with this change. They aren't usually known for being this "agile". I'm surprised too but I'll be even more surprised if we actually hear anything about this at the next Shot Show. I'd be surprised if we get more than a promise of an updated ARX100 at this Shot Show, a prototype to look at by 2018 and it ships before 2020. That sounds more like the Beretta we know.
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Posted: 10/1/2016 7:28:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2016 10:39:13 AM EDT
[#43]
Seems like tha arx200 showed up at Modern Day Marine show
http://kitup.military.com/2016/09/beretta-shows-off-new-csass-7-62mm.html |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 10:45:58 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens:
Seems like tha arx200 showed up at Modern Day Marine show http://kitup.military.com/2016/09/beretta-shows-off-new-csass-7-62mm.html Why in the hell would they design it with a proprietary magazine 
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Posted: 10/7/2016 10:59:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Why in the hell would they design it with a proprietary magazine Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Originally Posted By Frens:
Seems like tha arx200 showed up at Modern Day Marine show http://kitup.military.com/2016/09/beretta-shows-off-new-csass-7-62mm.html Why in the hell would they design it with a proprietary magazine I agree but unfortunately there isnt a standard for 308 mags like 556 Stanag.. And I guess for rifle manufacturers mags like any spare parts become a good source for $$$. Lets say Beretta will sell 100.000 arx200 to the XYZ govt.. They will sell the rifles with spare parts for normal maintenance plus a shit load of mags that govt can only buy from beretta.. And you know mags get damageg lost and replaced everyday. Finally the civilian market is not their primary goal and they dont care if you alteady have a good amount of magpuls ready to use 
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Posted: 10/7/2016 1:31:18 PM EDT
[#46]
This might be interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8cmm3Q5H8
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Posted: 10/7/2016 1:35:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
This might be interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8cmm3Q5H8 What red dot is that? |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RarestRX:
What red dot is that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
This might be interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8cmm3Q5H8 What red dot is that? No Idea... Someone has got to know though. |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 3:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
No Idea... Someone has got to know though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
Originally Posted By RarestRX:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
This might be interesting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y8cmm3Q5H8 What red dot is that? No Idea... Someone has got to know though. DI Optical EG1 |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 4:35:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens:
I agree but unfortunately there isnt a standard for 308 mags like 556 Stanag.. And I guess for rifle manufacturers mags like any spare parts become a good source for $$$. Lets say Beretta will sell 100.000 arx200 to the XYZ govt.. They will sell the rifles with spare parts for normal maintenance plus a shit load of mags that govt can only buy from beretta.. And you know mags get damageg lost and replaced everyday. Finally the civilian market is not their primary goal and they dont care if you alteady have a good amount of magpuls ready to use Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens:
Originally Posted By TATBME:
Originally Posted By Frens:
Seems like tha arx200 showed up at Modern Day Marine show http://kitup.military.com/2016/09/beretta-shows-off-new-csass-7-62mm.html Why in the hell would they design it with a proprietary magazine I agree but unfortunately there isnt a standard for 308 mags like 556 Stanag.. And I guess for rifle manufacturers mags like any spare parts become a good source for $$$. Lets say Beretta will sell 100.000 arx200 to the XYZ govt.. They will sell the rifles with spare parts for normal maintenance plus a shit load of mags that govt can only buy from beretta.. And you know mags get damageg lost and replaced everyday. Finally the civilian market is not their primary goal and they dont care if you alteady have a good amount of magpuls ready to use ARX-200 has a mag well adapter to use SR-25 mags. |
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