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Posted: 7/19/2017 7:15:31 PM EDT
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If I'm not mistaken they are IR light and can be used at night. The only issue is seeing what you are lazing. I have seen people mount their range finder to a spotting scope. If you had a clip on NOD for your spotter you could range with it.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 8:43:49 PM EDT
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The SWR Radius is on clearance at Brownells right now in case a rail-mounted rangefinder would fit your needs. The price is very, very right. That being said, I am having a hard time convincing myself that I actually need it since I don't do a lot of unknown distance night shooting beyond 200 yd where it would really matter for supersonic ammo. I might just buy one anyway, but adding another 18 oz on an already front heavy rifle is something to think long and hard about.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:23:48 PM EDT
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Are there any usable and affordable Laser Range Finders that can be used during the night using Gen 3 NV and also during the day? It would be used while hunting Coyotes. Now, I did come across the following, but he's in the UK, and I was wondering if there is an option Stateside.... http://www.customriflescopes.com/shop.html#!/weapon-mountable-rangefinder-plus-universal-mount-full-kit-that-zeros-to-your-rifle-scope/p/52309430/category=15737046 Why not get someone from the uk send it to you? Atb |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 12:07:22 AM EDT
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The new pulsar thermal line include LRF units. I don't own one but imagine they'd be badass for coyote hunting.
http://www.outdoorlegacygear.com/pulsar-apex-lrfxq38-thermal-rifle-scope.html |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 3:25:09 PM EDT
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Why not get someone from the uk send it to you? Atb Do you have any experience with the unit in question? |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 5:02:22 PM EDT
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hi,
i have bought something similar. instead of display it has an RS232 interface and can be controlled by a computer of some sort. i would say this rangefinder is most useful for subsonic use. maximal distance 300, maybe 350 meters. beam divergence is quite considerable. i recorded the spot at 50, 100 and 200 meter distance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qr1YQJ_DzA seeing the laser reflection through tubed NV makes using LRF a lot easier. 
here is coupe more vids: implementing the lrf module in my DIY bullet-drop-compensating-mount project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBhoGRaUFJQ difference between normal and fog mode (fog mode ignores near reflections) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ORJj7ivokY |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 12:46:39 AM EDT
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I still use this one;
It's pretty basic, and the dot can be seen in the viewfinder and is just above the number display. I figured there would be a lot of them around by now, but I haven't seen any pop up commercially yet - David |
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Posted: 7/23/2017 9:45:17 AM EDT
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I still use this one; http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_0054_Custom.JPG http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-NVLRF.jpg It's pretty basic, and the dot can be seen in the viewfinder and is just above the number display. I figured there would be a lot of them around by now, but I haven't seen any pop up commercially yet - David |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 6:31:33 PM EDT
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Sig Kilo has a red display, so you can see what the beam is hitting with the PVS14 eye and read the range with the naked eye.
Should work with anything else that has an illuminated display like that. |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 8:54:39 PM EDT
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Details? It fitted on the objective of the PVS-14 and was fairly light. Somewhere around 100 to 200 grams if I recall. Push the button and it provides the range to target next to the laser dot ( which was visible in the viewfinder also ). It seemed a simple improvement on the rangefinder and worked great. Anyway, like I said, it was a POC. I'm working on a next-generation version that can check laser range, include navigation information and make coffee. But I needed to rebuild my lab before I could start... And I only just finished rebuilding it a few weeks ago. David. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 12:32:38 AM EDT
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Maybe I'm special(doubtful), but I've had great success just using my LRF(Kilo now; Zeiss PRF previously) with my left eye and either NV or a thermal scanner on my right. My brain just superimposes the LRF reticle over the display of the monocular. I've had success with this to the same ranges that I can range with it during the day. Obviously that implies different techniques of stabilizing the LRF just like during daytime use. With the Kilo's ability to keep kicking out readings while the fire button is held, I'm consistent to just hand hold it on small predators at 500+ yards.
Try it; it may save some coin by enabling you to use equipment that you already have. I'd planned on the SiCo, but FKA is correct, by the time I add up the weight of my fullsize AR with a 22" barrel, can, scope, clip on, mag, battery pack, plus all my calling equipment and a tripod...I'll just keep my Kilo in my pocket or pack waist pocket and rock that instread of adding additional weight where I'll feel it the most. YMMV WHBD |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 1:59:06 AM EDT
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My Sig works fine under night vision, I just can't aim it worth a damn.
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Posted: 7/25/2017 6:33:41 PM EDT
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Sig Kilo has a red display, so you can see what the beam is hitting with the PVS14 eye and read the range with the naked eye. Should work with anything else that has an illuminated display like that. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 7:04:51 PM EDT
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Is there a particular model you are using? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sig Kilo has a red display, so you can see what the beam is hitting with the PVS14 eye and read the range with the naked eye. Should work with anything else that has an illuminated display like that. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 8:12:06 PM EDT
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Sig Kilo 2000 |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 4:55:36 PM EDT
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So the Sig Kilo 2000 and the SWR Radius are within $20 of each other at $380 and $399. (Damn, that Radius at Brownell's is priced RIGHT).
Decisions, decisions...... |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 12:17:48 AM EDT
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So the Sig Kilo 2000 and the SWR Radius are within $20 of each other at $380 and $399. (Damn, that Radius at Brownell's is priced RIGHT). Decisions, decisions...... |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:47:49 PM EDT
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Couldn't keep telling myself no, bought a Radius tonight for $360 shipped w/ that coupon and used a credit card that offers price rewind in case the price keeps dropping. I bought this mostly for use at night, at the very least it should make taking shots with subsonic stuff faster and more accurate. It will be a couple weeks before I can get out with it though. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 8:35:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2017 9:16:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThank you....
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Posted: 7/30/2017 10:02:15 PM EDT
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Damn it...another $40 bucks off....I bit
 Ive been using my Leupold with red display for night work but you can only make out its flashing ir laser to about 100 yards. Hopefully this will work better.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 12:58:50 AM EDT
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Are there any usable and affordable Laser Range Finders that can be used during the night using Gen 3 NV and also during the day? It would be used while hunting Coyotes. Now, I did come across the following, but he's in the UK, and I was wondering if there is an option Stateside.... http://www.customriflescopes.com/shop.html#!/weapon-mountable-rangefinder-plus-universal-mount-full-kit-that-zeros-to-your-rifle-scope/p/52309430/category=15737046 Most NV laser range finders use a higher frequency IR laser like 1000-1080 not 850 like NVG's sense |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:04:00 PM EDT
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Radius turned up Tuesday, messed with the visable laser then but it sat in the safe until tonight.
Hooked up the Simrad and went out back, it is awesome, the continious ranging option is sweet, as I was watching it pulse in the NV. Pleased so far with the purchase and looking to hit the range this weekend to get it zeroed to my barrel/scope... |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 11:36:41 PM EDT
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So far I really like the radius, especially at night! I owned one about 8 months ago and sold it for lack of use, luckily RIGHT before the price dropped like crazy. Now that I've moved back into a rural area and have had a couple weeks of "vacation," I've gotten to use my new one a bit both during day and night. First off, IMHO these are pointless unless you intend to shoot outside the point blank range of the load being used. For example, I don't typically shoot my 5.56 beyond ~200 yd at night (when I find the radius most useful), so I don't plan on using it on any of my 5.56 rifles with 50/200 yd zeros. If I can find somewhere to safely shoot centerfire 300-600 yd at night then I might. One of our farms may be the ticket for that BUT it has corn on it at the moment. Where I can see this being very useful is shooting supersonic loads at long range unknown distance targets at night (duh) and short to medium range with subsonic ammo where simple range estimation is rarely sufficient. The latter is what I've been having so much fun with, an accurate suppressed 22 LR AR with subs. For this, the radius has been indispensable at night. I have pics of it on my spotting scope BUT apparently those pics are too large to upload so will have to retake.
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:47:08 AM EDT
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Radius turned up Tuesday, messed with the visable laser then but it sat in the safe until tonight. Hooked up the Simrad and went out back, it is awesome, the continious ranging option is sweet, as I was watching it pulse in the NV. Pleased so far with the purchase and looking to hitting the range this weekend to get it zeroed to my barrel/scope... |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:48:06 AM EDT
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So far I really like the radius, especially at night! I owned one about 8 months ago and sold it for lack of use, luckily RIGHT before the price dropped like crazy. Now that I've moved back into a rural area and have had a couple weeks of "vacation," I've gotten to use my new one a bit both during day and night. First off, IMHO these are pointless unless you intend to shoot outside the point blank range of the load being used. For example, I don't typically shoot my 5.56 beyond ~200 yd at night (when I find the radius most useful), so I don't plan on using it on any of my 5.56 rifles with 50/200 yd zeros. If I can find somewhere to safely shoot centerfire 300-600 yd at night then I might. One of our farms may be the ticket for that BUT it has corn on it at the moment. Where I can see this being very useful is shooting supersonic loads at long range unknown distance targets at night (duh) and short to medium range with subsonic ammo where simple range estimation is rarely sufficient. The latter is what I've been having so much fun with, an accurate suppressed 22 LR AR with subs. For this, the radius has been indispensable at night. I have pics of it on my spotting scope BUT apparently those pics are too large to upload so will have to retake. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/163138/20170822_230936-287968.JPG |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:12:42 AM EDT
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Does the radius mount return to zero well? Thus far my only complaint would be that the unit has a little bit of wiggle in the zero adjustment mechanism. It is nowhere near as solid (for holding a super precise zero) as an Elcan style external adjustment mount. In case SiCo/SWR were to ask me, the improvements I would suggest would be a good return to zero mount (or at least a threaded hole pattern that would accept a LaRue or ADM), take the wiggle out of the adjustment mechanism, and reduce size/weight. For me it was worth $360. When it comes to functional NV accessories, that amount of money is a drop in the bucket. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 7:00:37 PM EDT
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I really want to know how you hooked it up to a simrad, do tell? |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 8:29:11 PM EDT
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Please show me where I mentioned hooking the Radius up to the Simrad....? |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 8:31:30 PM EDT
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I picked up a radius but haven't had time to do anything with it. My general long term plan is to use it in conjuction with a spotting scope for day/night ranging. I just need to get a spotter with a reticle of some sort, and then figure out a NV mounting solution that doesn't break the bank. I don't suppose there are simrad mounts for spotting scopes
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Posted: 8/23/2017 8:59:59 PM EDT
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worse comes to worse, use a tripod with the LRF mounted to paint the target while viewing with night vision device
check distance, then simply re-confirm the target with your night vision it's slow (can be fast with two people), but it works. |
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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:14:16 PM EDT
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I was considering a vortex recon 10x50, and they used to make a mount kit for it, but I'm wondering if I could ask badger to make a large sized simrad mount, or a picatinny to simrad adapter or something crazy like that. I don't have 10k to drop on a PVS-27... And even then you still need a lower power optic to use with a CNVD. Otherwise I Was thinking of strapping together a long P-rail+scope+simrad+ side rails and then mounting that to a tripod somehow.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 11:59:28 PM EDT
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The SWR Radius is on clearance at Brownells right now in case a rail-mounted rangefinder would fit your needs. The price is very, very right. That being said, I am having a hard time convincing myself that I actually need it since I don't do a lot of unknown distance night shooting beyond 200 yd where it would really matter for supersonic ammo. I might just buy one anyway, but adding another 18 oz on an already front heavy rifle is something to think long and hard about. |
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