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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:43:08 PM EDT
Traveled to FLIR for a relaxing meeting and enjoyed some good Cuban cigars along with playing with the new line of 12um Boson goodies. Hands down the best 320 I've seen to date! At first look, it was hard to believe this was a 320 system. Took some quick pics and vids. Game changer for sure. More to come with pics and vids stay tuned...
Latest from FLIR is THE Q14B (now called the Breach) I have shown here will ONLY be hand held and helmet mountable. I was not allowed to say anything up until now as we are under NDA. Other models to follow....  Q14B 320 9mm bh |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:44:39 PM EDT
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Holy crap! Great video Detail
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Posted: 5/25/2017 6:47:12 PM EDT
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Like I said, 320 Boson is as good as most current 640 cores.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:07:10 PM EDT
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That one in the video has the 9.1mm objective germanium lens, the 640cores will have a 19mm lens.
Pretty sure the ThermoSight C-Boson collimated Clip-On will have a 25mm objective lens. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:17:39 PM EDT
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Well 10 seconds has just burned a hole in my wallet ...looks sick
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:20:11 PM EDT
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Here is a short clip of the 320 19mm....Yes their 320 core is smokin'! I do not get impressed too quick with new product, but this new 12um Boson 320 was the wow factor.
 320 19mm wh |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:40:00 PM EDT
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The Q14 320 core Boson I was using had a 25mm objective which provided outstanding detail but I thought half that size lens would be much better on the 320 core, of course it did not have the enhanced software and hardware improvements that the Commerical models all have, the image was still incredible everywhere all the time. The recent hardware/software refinements are definitely worth the wait!
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Posted: 5/25/2017 7:59:15 PM EDT
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oh man. That looks good. Most of what I could find up until now was so-so, but that looks great.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:12:14 PM EDT
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Did you record thru the lens, on an iPhone, a DVR, or internal recording?
Do you know what the fov was...with 9mm I'm hoping its at least 23° Does it have a manual focus or auto focus? Most important: WHEN WILL THEY SHIP!!!!!!
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:59:43 PM EDT
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First videos look good looking forward to seeing the full production units.
It would be nice if FLIR makes the Q14B or a viewer only model based on same type micro housing using a 1.5X or 2X size lens. I would like to have one with a 1.5X or 2X lens for scanning. 1X is very limited range in a rural setting with a 320 core. I never headmounted my Q14 just wasn't real practical so really 1X isn't any benefit to me personally. Scanning and weapon mounting 1.5X to 2X is much more useful to the average hunter/Outdoorsman |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:13:02 PM EDT
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Yay!
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:17:59 PM EDT
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The Q14 320 core Boson I was using had a 25mm objective which provided outstanding detail but I thought half that size lens would be much better on the 320 core, of course it did not have the enhanced software and hardware improvements that the Commerical models all have, the image was still incredible everywhere all the time. The recent hardware/software refinements are definitely worth the wait! 
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:32:17 PM EDT
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Welp.... looks like I'm going to start penny pinching....
How far away was the highway? |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:39:42 PM EDT
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Here is a short clip of the 320 19mm....Yes their 320 core is smokin'! I do not get impressed too quick with new product, but this new 12um Boson 320 was the wow factor.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrmHDrwWTIc |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 9:57:53 PM EDT
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Price?
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Price? $1,995 back in early April. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:15:23 PM EDT
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Can this work as a standalone weapon sight or a clip-on? Or is it purely a handheld?
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:31:45 PM EDT
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Can this work as a standalone weapon sight or a clip-on? Or is it purely a handheld? Showed multiple reticles in spec sheet. Can also be helmet mounted. Theres a few page thread on it below this one. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:32:17 PM EDT
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Nailed it right there. I had a pretty substantial talk about this very thing. The Santa Barbara facility has been extremely hard at work and is the crux of the engineering timelines we are seeing. Another pic below, many more coming along with more Vids. I will also be answering other questions here as I catch up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/Q14B_A_zps3p0bzlre.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Q14 320 core Boson I was using had a 25mm objective which provided outstanding detail but I thought half that size lens would be much better on the 320 core, of course it did not have the enhanced software and hardware improvements that the Commerical models all have, the image was still incredible everywhere all the time. The recent hardware/software refinements are definitely worth the wait!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/Q14B_A_zps3p0bzlre.jpg 
Wow I want!!!! |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:36:46 PM EDT
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It feels about the size and weight of a pack of unfiltered Camels.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 11:07:25 PM EDT
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Hnnnggghh
More videos pleaseeeee |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 11:22:12 PM EDT
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Early indicators were standalone and not clipon. Showed multiple reticles in spec sheet. Can also be helmet mounted. Theres a few page thread on it below this one. |
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Posted: 5/25/2017 11:31:57 PM EDT
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That one looks like it has a fixed focus objective lens, the one I was using had a manually adjustable objective, which was kind of a PITA as the larger objective provided a narrow depth-of-field that needed to be manually adjusted, the smaller f/1.0 lens will provide a much better depth of field view.
The PVS-14 like glass ocular with rotating manual diopter adjustment was nice, pupil size was large and the microbolometer view looked just like my much more expensive FLIR M-18's do. The freaking awesome black hot Urban Glow is going to be my GoTo palette. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 1:22:50 AM EDT
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What's the detection range like on these?
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Posted: 5/26/2017 6:28:00 AM EDT
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Holy.... thats awesome. Thats just not something you are going to get with those $600 leupold or Flir handhelds, but thats the kind of smooth, crisp, free flowing image the people think thermal should be. Up until now, that was going to cost you around 5 grand. But 2 large for that kind of performance? Thats really cool, it'll be very interesting to see how they do when they get released into the wild. I'm keeping my eye on this one.
Now..Vic... Since you're out there with the eggheads, tell them to stop fartin' around and make an affordable COTI with these new tiny cores, that we can all slap onto our already owned NODS! 
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:07:49 AM EDT
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What's the detection range like on these? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:10:56 AM EDT
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Pretty tough to answer, are we looking for coyotes or Freight trains? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the detection range like on these? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 12:39:31 PM EDT
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Any idea when the first Q14B's and FLIR pro scopes using boson 320 cores will start shipping?
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Posted: 5/26/2017 2:01:52 PM EDT
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Did you record thru the lens, on an iPhone, a DVR, or internal recording? That what's so impressive about these. Even though the video was shot with the units internal recording, it's still VERY impressive. Keep in mind you have approx. 20-30% loss with video transfers, this is normal for any internal Vid transfers to other media. Bottom line, wait till you see what the real time images look like! As stated, I did NOT believe I was looking at a 320 system, and thought it was 640.
Do you know what the fov was...with 9mm I'm hoping its at least 23° Not final, but presently approx. 24deg. Does it have a manual focus or auto focus? It has fixed lens with diopter focus. The images snapped into focus using the diopter for me. Most important: WHEN WILL THEY SHIP!!!!!!
I am shying away from releasing any official dates. I learned that a long time ago. I know they are close. 
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Posted: 5/26/2017 2:48:51 PM EDT
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Pretty tough to answer, are we looking for coyotes or Freight trains? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 3:15:25 PM EDT
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So will production units be helmet mountable? What kind of mount interface?
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Posted: 5/26/2017 4:08:46 PM EDT
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So will production units be helmet mountable? What kind of mount interface? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 4:42:54 PM EDT
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So will production units be helmet mountable? What kind of mount interface? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 5:23:46 PM EDT
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Traveled to FLIR for a relaxing meeting and enjoyed some good Cuban cigars along with playing with the new line of 12um Boson goodies. Hands down the best 320 I've seen to date! At first look, it was hard to believe this was a 320 system. Took some quick pics and vids. Game changer for sure. More to come with pics and vids stay tuned... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_4K12XBjcMTNVC of all people smoking commie Cubans...... dafuq? Is there going to be an insta alert type pallets for colors? Is it simple enough I can hand it to an untrained person with insta alert on and they can find a body hiding under some bushes? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 5:27:15 PM EDT
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It will have adapters for both bayo and dovetails. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So will production units be helmet mountable? What kind of mount interface? EDIT: Is this the #172 Adapter? If so, is it optimized for Norotos or Wilcox Dovetail Arms? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 6:30:55 PM EDT
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View from the button side. The design of the monocular itself is ergonomic and functional. No issues with any manipulation of the buttons with one hand and wearing gloves will be no issue. More to come, playing catch up a bit. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/Q14B_B_zpskh5gw4lq.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you record thru the lens, on an iPhone, a DVR, or internal recording? That what's so impressive about these. Even though the video was shot with the units internal recording, it's still VERY impressive. Keep in mind you have approx. 20-30% loss with video transfers, this is normal for any internal Vid transfers to other media. Bottom line, wait till you see what the real time images look like! As stated, I did NOT believe I was looking at a 320 system, and thought it was 640.
Do you know what the fov was...with 9mm I'm hoping its at least 23° Not final, but presently approx. 24deg. Does it have a manual focus or auto focus? It has fixed lens with diopter focus. The images snapped into focus using the diopter for me. Most important: WHEN WILL THEY SHIP!!!!!!
I am shying away from releasing any official dates. I learned that a long time ago. I know they are close. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/Q14B_B_zpskh5gw4lq.jpg I am gonna start with the 320 core q14b...then pony up and get a thermosight pro with 640 once they come out. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 7:54:21 PM EDT
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How far to the pedestrian in the lower right quadrant of the reticle at the 12 second mark? 
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Posted: 5/26/2017 8:40:11 PM EDT
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I picked up deer and hogs at 800 yards with mine and Positive ID was good at 225 yards.
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Posted: 5/26/2017 8:53:27 PM EDT
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I picked up deer and hogs at 800 yards with mine and Positive ID was good at 225 yards. |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:33:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThanks, Vic
Skypup indicated the video I asked about was shot with a 19 mm lens, is that correct? If it was a 19 mm, does my math check with a FOV of approximately 11.5 - 12 degrees? |
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Posted: 5/26/2017 10:39:54 PM EDT
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Dumb (technically challenged) question - given the size of the optic and small eye piece, I'd imagine this would be extremely difficult to see through on a weapon or helmet mount. Is there an adaptor that can lengthen the eye relief so you aren't literally an inch away from a recoiling scope? Sorry if my question seem to naive or uneducated. Just seems like logically speaking this is toooo small for hunting purposes except to scan?
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Posted: 5/26/2017 11:35:33 PM EDT
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Thanks, Vic Skypup indicated the video I asked about was shot with a 19 mm lens, is that correct? If it was a 19 mm, does my math check with a FOV of approximately 11.5 - 12 degrees? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thanks, Vic
Skypup indicated the video I asked about was shot with a 19 mm lens, is that correct? If it was a 19 mm, does my math check with a FOV of approximately 11.5 - 12 degrees?
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Posted: 5/26/2017 11:36:32 PM EDT
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Thanks, Vic Skypup indicated the video I asked about was shot with a 19 mm lens, is that correct? If it was a 19 mm, does my math check with a FOV of approximately 11.5 - 12 degrees? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thanks, Vic
Skypup indicated the video I asked about was shot with a 19 mm lens, is that correct? If it was a 19 mm, does my math check with a FOV of approximately 11.5 - 12 degrees?
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Posted: 5/27/2017 1:13:41 AM EDT
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Link to preorder?
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Posted: 5/27/2017 7:10:00 AM EDT
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Dumb (technically challenged) question - given the size of the optic and small eye piece, I'd imagine this would be extremely difficult to see through on a weapon or helmet mount. Is there an adaptor that can lengthen the eye relief so you aren't literally an inch away from a recoiling scope? Sorry if my question seem to naive or uneducated. Just seems like logically speaking this is toooo small for hunting purposes except to scan? There are other iterations of Boson equipped standalone TWS and Clip-Ons TWS that would fit your application better as a standalone TWS for a weapon mount that are not primarily hand scanners or helmet mounted That said, it does have a huge image viewer with a very clear view through the ocular and may be used for that purpose quite effectively on most weapons. |
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Posted: 5/27/2017 8:37:24 AM EDT
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Gotcha. Is this where the other scopes are listed? The prices go up quite a bit from there! Looks like the q14b is really the only standout here. The other RS series would probably not be as competitive as a XP50 or REAP IR?
http://flir.com/thermoSightR-Series/mobile/phone/index.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
Link to preorder? |
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Posted: 5/27/2017 8:48:10 AM EDT
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No, Boson specs on new models have not been updated yet, those are the specs on the TAU2 microbolometer cores.. There are over 30 new products being outfitted with the Boson cores.
If you want a Pulsar or Truijicon IRD you can try to get one of those now, otherwise you'll have to wait until end of summer for the new FLIR Boson TWS and Clip-On scopes. Plus, you could always get an ATN too!
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Posted: 5/27/2017 10:47:26 AM EDT
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TNVC of all people smoking commie Cubans...... dafuq? Is there going to be an insta alert type pallets for colors? Is it simple enough I can hand it to an untrained person with insta alert on and they can find a body hiding under some bushes? Yes insta alert and yes Mr. Potato Head me worked the unit with a few seconds of training. 
Seriously though, this little unit is going to be a true life saver for LE, especially the ones in rural America where back up is an hour away and some perp bailed into a field. This WILL have a huge impact in the LE community (cost effective, incredible clarity and resolution for a 320, light weight, etc.), thus why I traveled out to see and work with it in person, we have been very interested in this unit. 
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Posted: 5/27/2017 10:56:45 AM EDT
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Link to preorder?
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Posted: 5/27/2017 11:15:16 AM EDT
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Quick question.
I think you said those videos are recorded to internal memory. Just want to clairfy. That's digital internal video not analog that's been wired out to a traditional DVR? Is there a provision for a microphone? Those videos look similar to what the internal video on my flir vue pro 640, which records internally as a higher quality digital video. But the only way I can view live streaming from the vue is by way of a lower quality analog video jack to a monitor or display. So for the vue, it's analog live and digital recording. I know you said the image looks better than these videos. Does this mean through the Q14 viewfinder for live imaging is also digital but at some even higher rate? that would be a big step up in my opinion. I always thought if there was a way to make my vue display at the same quality that it records internally, it would be perfect. I'm sure my lack of technical terminology has completely botched my questioning. Hope this was simple enough? Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/27/2017 1:42:52 PM EDT
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It will have adapters for both bayo and dovetails. 
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