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Posted: 4/14/2017 6:27:59 PM EDT

Sneak peek of the 320 core with a 25mm objective that will perform similar to many current 640 cores....soon to be on my helmets and rifles.

Posted: 4/14/2017 6:49:36 PM EDT

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Clip on?

Nice. Does it have a price tag yet?

Posted: 4/14/2017 6:51:46 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/14/2017 6:55:34 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/14/2017 7:39:02 PM EDT

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Sneak peek of the 320 core with a 25mm objective that will perform similar to many current 640 cores....soon to be on my helmets and rifles.

http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/FLIR%20Q14B/Q14BWEB.jpg

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It's beautiful.

Posted: 4/14/2017 7:49:39 PM EDT

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Sneak peek of the 320 core with a 25mm objective that will perform similar to many current 640 cores....soon to be on my helmets and rifles.

http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/FLIR%20Q14B/Q14BWEB.jpg

It's beautiful.

Not only that, it is tiny, super lightweight, extremely powerful, collimated, runs 4X longer on a CR123, and very affordable at <$2K.

Posted: 4/14/2017 8:16:09 PM EDT

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Not only that, it is tiny, super lightweight, extremely powerful, collimated, runs 4X longer on a CR123, and very affordable at <$2K.

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Who needs Viagra?

Posted: 4/14/2017 8:46:14 PM EDT

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Would it be possible to use a clip-on like this behind a front sight post? I have a ACOG TA11 on a mid-length with a front sight post....would this work?

Posted: 4/14/2017 9:33:48 PM EDT

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What are the helmet/weapon mounting solutions for this? Norotos Dovetail? Norotos Bayonet? Bridge for use with a PVS-14? Is that dovetail mount the same standard that others have been using for a while? It looks a little different from the ones on the MUM-14 and the Armasight COREs.

Posted: 4/14/2017 9:56:21 PM EDT

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I pre-ordered one this week from Armasight. They said two month +\- on delivery.

Posted: 4/14/2017 11:34:15 PM EDT

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whoa, clip on.

Posted: 4/15/2017 8:52:09 AM EDT

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Not only that, it is tiny, super lightweight, extremely powerful, collimated, runs 4X longer on a CR123, and very affordable at <$2K.

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Sneak peek of the 320 core with a 25mm objective that will perform similar to many current 640 cores....soon to be on my helmets and rifles.

http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/FLIR%20Q14B/Q14BWEB.jpg

It's beautiful.

Not only that, it is tiny, super lightweight, extremely powerful, collimated, runs 4X longer on a CR123, and very affordable at <$2K.

The clip on version is <$2K? Can it also be used as a standalone TWS? Also, what Q is it expected to be released? Thanks
@SkyPup.

Posted: 4/15/2017 9:15:05 AM EDT

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The clip on version is <$2K? Can it also be used as a standalone TWS? Also, what Q is it expected to be released? Thanks
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Inquiring minds want to know

Posted: 4/15/2017 9:41:31 AM EDT

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Yes to all, but accessories to clip on to helmet and rail will be additional optional packages for the mounts, battery extender, optional germanium lenses, etc.

Kits are ready to go but new enhanced software is currently being loaded into the Boson cores, from what I hear should be out end of May. Authorized distributors will know much more and will probably post when they fulfill their current orders.

Don't know if they will market specific packaged kits for specific uses or just the main core unit with a multitude of operational options for those specific end user applications?

Posted: 4/15/2017 9:41:51 AM EDT

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My FLIR rep said "we hope for the end of April" which I translated to be probably June

The 640 is evidently still a long way on the horizon.

TAB173WN8Q14001 - Q14-B TIM 320 (30Hz) Thermal Imaging Multi-Purpose Monocular, FLIR Boson - 320x256 (12µm) 30Hz Core
Retail $1995.00

Some answers to questions I asked re: magnification, use as a clip on and helmet mounting-

It is 1X and it does have a reticle which can be turned off when you use the unit as a monocular. However, in order to use it as a clip-on you need a different unit - Thermosight C which comes with special optics.

For PVS-14 type mounts you will need an optional adapter #37.

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These are already pre-selling very well.

Posted: 4/15/2017 9:45:27 AM EDT

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Theromosight C is the collimated Clip-On version TWS shown in previous photo above, Q14B is NOT collimated for Clip-on and is both a TWS and a hand/helmet scanner, these are two different model specifications.

Posted: 4/15/2017 10:22:48 AM EDT

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the 640 is so far off that it isn't even being included in this years product catalog. :-(

Posted: 4/15/2017 10:55:00 AM EDT

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Theromosight C is the collimated Clip-On version TWS shown in previous photo above, Q14B is NOT collimated for Clip-on and is both a TWS and a hand/helmet scanner, these are two different model specifications.

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But you CAN use the Thermosight-C as a stand alone TWS? What's the expected MSRP$ for the C?

@SkyPup. Thanks for the info. Really excited about this.

Posted: 4/15/2017 1:34:02 PM EDT

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You can use the C as standalone TWS too, everyone will find out soon enough, 320 cores should ship out end of next month, 640s will be all around the Christmas Tree.

Posted: 4/15/2017 3:03:37 PM EDT

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You can use the C as standalone TWS too, everyone will find out soon enough, 320 cores should ship out end of next month, 640s will be all around the Christmas Tree.

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Thanks

Posted: 4/15/2017 6:04:30 PM EDT

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Where to buy/order?

Posted: 4/15/2017 6:21:10 PM EDT

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We are taking pre-orders with PO's in for all the new systems. Simply email our sales at tnvc dot com to get on the list. We will not take any money up front for these, just an email call list.

Posted: 4/15/2017 6:40:57 PM EDT

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We are taking pre-orders with PO's in for all the new systems. Simply email our sales at tnvc dot com to get on the list. We will not take any money up front for these, just an email call list.

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How will we know what to pre-order? Where are the details/specs on these units?

I didn't find anything about them on your website.

Thanks.

Posted: 4/15/2017 7:27:35 PM EDT

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How will we know what to pre-order? Where are the details/specs on these units?

I didn't find anything about them on your website.

Thanks.

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Hi ya, once we get the FINAL specs and info we will publish to all those on our pre-order list. Pricing, specs and delivery dates are not finalized.

Posted: 4/15/2017 10:16:59 PM EDT

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The Nancy Pelosi school of buying thermal? You have to buy it to know what your getting? This is becoming some kind of church for true believers.

-Stooxie

Posted: 4/16/2017 12:14:35 AM EDT

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The Nancy Pelosi school of buying thermal? You have to buy it to know what your getting? This is becoming some kind of church for true believers.

-Stooxie

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It's just that good.

Posted: 4/16/2017 1:21:13 AM EDT

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My FLIR rep said "we hope for the end of April" which I translated to be probably June

The 640 is evidently still a long way on the horizon.

TAB173WN8Q14001 - Q14-B TIM 320 (30Hz) Thermal Imaging Multi-Purpose Monocular, FLIR Boson - 320x256 (12µm) 30Hz Core
Retail $1995.00

Some answers to questions I asked re: magnification, use as a clip on and helmet mounting-

These are already pre-selling very well.

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I ordered from you guys.

Hope it's not disappointing!

Posted: 4/16/2017 4:50:10 AM EDT

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http://www.flirmedia.com/MMC/CVS/OTS/OTS_016/OTS_016_US.pdf

I probably missed this page early on but it has some of the basic details I was wanting to see.

Posted: 4/17/2017 7:54:06 AM EDT

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I ordered from you guys.

Hope it's not disappointing!

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For the price, I really doubt it! Comparable in this price range is the Scout 240, and the Q14B offers a lot more than the Scout 240.

Thank you for your order. Anything that doesn't ship right away is NOT charged until it's ready to ship. Appreciate your business.

Posted: 4/17/2017 9:35:29 AM EDT

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Is there an additional lens that can be purchased for the Q14b to add magnification? Can that same lens be used on the Q14C?

Posted: 4/17/2017 11:03:19 AM EDT

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For the price, I really doubt it! Comparable in this price range is the Scout 240, and the Q14B offers a lot more than the Scout 240.

Thank you for your order. Anything that doesn't ship right away is NOT charged until it's ready to ship. Appreciate your business.

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Hopefully, it's alright if I message you some questions regarding the unit.
This is my first thermal!!

Posted: 4/17/2017 11:22:01 AM EDT

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Hopefully, it's alright if I message you some questions regarding the unit.
This is my first thermal!!

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Definitely. Direct email is a little quicker however. Phone is always in my pocket.

Posted: 4/17/2017 11:46:02 AM EDT

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The Nancy Pelosi school of buying thermal? You have to buy it to know what your getting? This is becoming some kind of church for true believers.

-Stooxie

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As you re-read, we are not charging anyone but simply a pre-order email list with no obligation to buy. We will announce final specs and pricing as they are released.

Posted: 4/17/2017 12:01:55 PM EDT

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As you re-read, we are not charging anyone but simply a pre-order email list with no obligation to buy. We will announce final specs and pricing as they are released.

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Just got signed up, The Fix and this have similar release dates so we'll see where my money goes, but I'm definitely interested in this unit. It'll compliment my new pvs from you guys perfectly.

Posted: 4/17/2017 12:09:48 PM EDT

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Quick question:

These units are labeled as 1x optical magnification. But they have a narrow field of view. Like 12° or less.

Why is the optical magnification not higher since the field of view is so narrow like what you would get on a different thermal scope that is narrow field of view?

1x and narrow seems like a bad combination. Is it not?

I'm not trying to sound critical just trying to learn the difference.

Posted: 4/17/2017 1:23:00 PM EDT

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Quick question:

These units are labeled as 1x optical magnification. But they have a narrow field of view. Like 12° or less.

Why is the optical magnification not higher since the field of view is so narrow like what you would get on a different thermal scope that is narrow field of view?

1x and narrow seems like a bad combination. Is it not?

I'm not trying to sound critical just trying to learn the difference.

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Lower price=lower specs.

Posted: 4/17/2017 1:33:23 PM EDT

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I thought the price was dependent on the size of the lens and the features of the unit?

Isnt a typical thermal device that is labeled as 1x going to have a wider field of view? Why does this one not have a wider field of view?

These Boson cores are cheaper than their predecessors yet have much more features and power.

Thanks.

Posted: 4/17/2017 1:37:09 PM EDT

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Just got signed up, The Fix and this have similar release dates so we'll see where my money goes, but I'm definitely interested in this unit. It'll compliment my new pvs from you guys perfectly.

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Thank you.

Posted: 4/17/2017 2:16:56 PM EDT

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Interesting so this guy might take a while to get his Boson cores for sale or maybe sooner since he doesn't need it mounted up for rifles?

Boson Core Drone

Posted: 4/17/2017 2:28:08 PM EDT

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I thought the price was dependent on the size of the lens and the features of the unit?

Isnt a typical thermal device that is labeled as 1x going to have a wider field of view? Why does this one not have a wider field of view?

These Boson cores are cheaper than their predecessors yet have much more features and power.

Thanks.

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FOV depends on which lens size you order, if you want 50+ degree FOV get a 9mm lens.

Posted: 4/17/2017 3:09:26 PM EDT

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FOV depends on which lens size you order, if you want 50+ degree FOV get a 9mm lens.

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Im not necessarily looking for more field of view. I was trying to understand how the Q14 with the 19mm focal length is able to keep optical magnification at 1x while having such a narrow field of view?

Thanks.

Posted: 4/17/2017 3:32:10 PM EDT

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We are taking pre-orders with PO's in for all the new systems. Simply email our sales at tnvc dot com to get on the list. We will not take any money up front for these, just an email call list.

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In!

Posted: 4/17/2017 3:36:51 PM EDT

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Im not necessarily looking for more field of view. I was trying to understand how the Q14 with the 19mm focal length is able to keep optical magnification at 1x while having such a narrow field of view?

Thanks.

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This is piquing my interest also. Can someone do a rundown on the different lenses and their behaviors? Are these all native lenses or are some of them accessory lenses?

Posted: 4/17/2017 3:49:31 PM EDT

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I think I am forgetting this is the 320 unit and not the 640? In my mind I am comparing the focal length and magnification between my IR defense 640 35 mm scope versus the 320 Q14's.

I forgot I have to narrow the field of view in half when comparing the smaller core size.

But I still don't understand how this is only 1x?

Thanks.

Posted: 4/17/2017 5:50:08 PM EDT

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The software for this particular unit is programmed to be 1X.

For higher magnifications you will need the C-Seies Boson Scopes and Clip-Ons with different software drivers, NOT the Q14B instrument.

Posted: 4/17/2017 6:06:47 PM EDT

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OK, that explains that. Thanks.

I'm probably not going to understand the benefit of 1x with such a narrow field of view until I actually look through one myself? Which gets us back to the Nancy Pelosi comment. Haha

thanks.

Posted: 4/17/2017 6:22:30 PM EDT

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OK, that explains that. Thanks.

I'm probably not going to understand the benefit of 1x with such a narrow field of view until I actually look through one myself? Which gets us back to the Nancy Pelosi comment. Haha

thanks.

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This still does not qualify as a Pelosi paradigm because you will not get fined for not buying a new FLIR. (or was it taxed?)

Posted: 4/17/2017 6:24:44 PM EDT

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This still does not qualify as a Pelosi paradigm because you will not get fined for not buying a new FLIR. (or was it taxed?)

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You have to buy it to see what's in it.

Posted: 4/17/2017 6:40:45 PM EDT

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OK, that explains that. Thanks.

I'm probably not going to understand the benefit of 1x with such a narrow field of view until I actually look through one myself? Which gets us back to the Nancy Pelosi comment. Haha

thanks.

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The Q14B is not a $7+K dedicated TWS like the one you are comparing it to, it is primarily a super tiny very lightweight handheld or helmet mounted thermal scanner that can also be used as a short range thermal weapon scope for <$2K.

Posted: 4/17/2017 6:51:13 PM EDT

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You have to buy it to see what's in it.

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Originally from TNVC: As you re-read, we are not charging anyone but simply a pre-order email list with no obligation to buy. We will announce final specs and pricing as they are released.

Apparently we get to see the spec's before commitment. The list is just to make sure you are at the front of the procurement cycle. It looks like you have the ability to back out of the deal if you don't like the spec's.

If you like your old thermal, you can keep your old thermal.

Posted: 4/17/2017 7:15:28 PM EDT

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JRH already has two pages of specs on the Q14B on his webpage which has got me asking these questions in the first place.

I like the super tiny, powerful, blah blah blah, aspects of this device. It would be great to have for a spare or loaner for a buddy to use while hunting with me.

Does using software to set the magnification at 1X on this particular unit allow for no loss or distortion of resolution when zooming in?

Or conversely does it allow you to have significantly greater resolution at base magnification?

Thanks.

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