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Posted: 7/3/2015 4:09:23 PM EDT
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Thank you!
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Posted: 7/4/2015 6:54:51 PM EDT
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As the guys mentioned we have MANY surprises in store for everyone. In the next few weeks we will debuting something very cool for the hunting and also for use with tactical guru crowd.
Happy 4th of July, we've all earned it! 
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Posted: 7/6/2015 6:19:12 PM EDT
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Gen 2 COMSPEC and GEN 2+ Sentinels now up and other unique cost saving items HERE Thanks guys
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Posted: 7/6/2015 7:31:25 PM EDT
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As the guys mentioned we have MANY surprises in store for everyone. In the next few weeks we will debuting something very cool for the hunting and also for use with tactical guru crowd.
Happy 4th of July, we've all earned it! WASP  
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Posted: 7/8/2015 12:19:56 AM EDT
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As the guys mentioned we have MANY surprises in store for everyone. In the next few weeks we will debuting something very cool for the hunting and also for use with tactical guru crowd.
Happy 4th of July, we've all earned it! WASP I hope |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 1:15:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As the guys mentioned we have MANY surprises in store for everyone. In the next few weeks we will debuting something very cool for the hunting and also for use with tactical guru crowd. Happy 4th of July, we've all earned it! You big tease. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:13:02 AM EDT
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Vic/Eric,
1.) I currently run dual gen 3 pvs-14's on a mod armory bridge. The only issue with this set up is the 14's are from separate manufacturers so at times they give off a slightly canted image (time/money constraints at the time of purchase forced me to go this route). Would the 2+ sentinels be a more user friendly and practical solution than this current set up even though the 14's are Gen 3's? (POU for these is hog hunting/all legal purposes  )
2.) What are the lead times for shipment on the Binos? I can only assume it will be a similar wait to TNVC products. I'm about to head downrange and want to time my return right so they're waiting for me when I get home! |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:42:09 AM EDT
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SentryDarkstar,
Do you know that Mod Armory offers different arms for L3 and ITT PVS 14's? You can order a bridge with same brand or mixed arms, and I'm sure you could order one single arm if one of yours is for the wrong brand. I suspect using the appropriate arm for each of your PVS 14's would solve your issue. JPK |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 2:16:03 AM EDT
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JPK,
I thought that could be the culprit at first, but I triple checked and the arms are the correct ones for the respective housings. I'm certain that these tubes are not exactly calibrated to each other so this seems the be the logical explanation (I know TNVC will calibrate their 14's if you get a dual set up to give the best image). Also, I'm interested in the Sentinels because they weight almost a pound less than the dual 14 set up (32.8 ounces vs 20.8 ounces). Anyways, Selling one of the 14's and the bridge = making the price tag on the binos hurt just a little bit less! |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 11:09:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vic/Eric, 1.) I currently run dual gen 3 pvs-14's on a mod armory bridge. The only issue with this set up is the 14's are from separate manufacturers so at times they give off a slightly canted image (time/money constraints at the time of purchase forced me to go this route). Would the 2+ sentinels be a more user friendly and practical solution than this current set up even though the 14's are Gen 3's? (POU for these is hog hunting/all legal purposes )2.) What are the lead times for shipment on the Binos? I can only assume it will be a similar wait to TNVC products. I'm about to head downrange and want to time my return right so they're waiting for me when I get home! The lead times on a Gen 2 SENTINEL are pretty quick, depending on what tube you are wanting. Are you looking at the ComSpec or PLUS variant? |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 11:27:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI personally think that a purpose built dual tube system is the way to go, if that's the route you are trying to take. If you want the versatility of have two monoculars that you can bridge, for the sake of being able to part them out at any point in time, then the bridge system has benefits. However, bridge systems are heavier and have more moving parts, which can get annoying at times.
The lead times on a Gen 2 SENTINEL are pretty quick, depending on what tube you are wanting. Are you looking at the ComSpec or PLUS variant? The weight savings is a huge attraction to me. As I said in a previous post, I compared the weights, 32.8 ounces vs 20.8 ounces. I'm looking at the PLUS variant. I would like to get as close to gen 3 specs as possible without dropping the 7-8K for gen 3 sentinels. The $5100 tag is already pushing my budget and I'll probably end up selling one of my 14's to help ease the pain. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 11:29:18 AM EDT
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SentryDarkstar,
Well, so much for the cheap fix! JPK |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 11:33:03 AM EDT
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SentryDarkstar, Well, so much for the cheap fix! JPK When is anything in the NV industry cheap?
You get what you pay for! |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 3:20:03 PM EDT
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The weight savings is a huge attraction to me. As I said in a previous post, I compared the weights, 32.8 ounces vs 20.8 ounces. I'm looking at the PLUS variant. I would like to get as close to gen 3 specs as possible without dropping the 7-8K for gen 3 sentinels. The $5100 tag is already pushing my budget and I'll probably end up selling one of my 14's to help ease the pain. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I personally think that a purpose built dual tube system is the way to go, if that's the route you are trying to take. If you want the versatility of have two monoculars that you can bridge, for the sake of being able to part them out at any point in time, then the bridge system has benefits. However, bridge systems are heavier and have more moving parts, which can get annoying at times.
The lead times on a Gen 2 SENTINEL are pretty quick, depending on what tube you are wanting. Are you looking at the ComSpec or PLUS variant? The weight savings is a huge attraction to me. As I said in a previous post, I compared the weights, 32.8 ounces vs 20.8 ounces. I'm looking at the PLUS variant. I would like to get as close to gen 3 specs as possible without dropping the 7-8K for gen 3 sentinels. The $5100 tag is already pushing my budget and I'll probably end up selling one of my 14's to help ease the pain. The Plus had minimum SNR sitting at around 18 per the site, but they also say that the Plus is the best Gen2 available so one could guess they are actually getting tubes with SNR around 22-26 and with that you are already in Gen3 territory with the exception of the very darkest situations where any Gen2 currently loses a little (excluding the new Photonis Intens that as far as I know nobody here has seen yet, will be interesting to eventually see a comparison). But if the SNR is closer to the minimum they state, then there would be a considerable difference between a Gen3 Sentinel and their Plus model. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 3:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The weight savings is a huge attraction to me. As I said in a previous post, I compared the weights, 32.8 ounces vs 20.8 ounces. I'm looking at the PLUS variant. I would like to get as close to gen 3 specs as possible without dropping the 7-8K for gen 3 sentinels. The $5100 tag is already pushing my budget and I'll probably end up selling one of my 14's to help ease the pain. Quote HistoryQuoted: I personally think that a purpose built dual tube system is the way to go, if that's the route you are trying to take. If you want the versatility of have two monoculars that you can bridge, for the sake of being able to part them out at any point in time, then the bridge system has benefits. However, bridge systems are heavier and have more moving parts, which can get annoying at times. The lead times on a Gen 2 SENTINEL are pretty quick, depending on what tube you are wanting. Are you looking at the ComSpec or PLUS variant? The weight savings is a huge attraction to me. As I said in a previous post, I compared the weights, 32.8 ounces vs 20.8 ounces. I'm looking at the PLUS variant. I would like to get as close to gen 3 specs as possible without dropping the 7-8K for gen 3 sentinels. The $5100 tag is already pushing my budget and I'll probably end up selling one of my 14's to help ease the pain. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 9:20:41 PM EDT
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Thanks Eric! Looks like I have plenty of time to drool over them or convince myself to bite the bullet and buy TNVC Sentinels....
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Posted: 7/25/2015 10:23:57 AM EDT
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So when I first started looking at nightgoggles.com I didn't even know they were a site sponsor so this is a plus in itself.
I am totally new to NV and can someone please tell me if I am headed in the right direction with what I'm thinking of purchasing. NGI/PVS-14 GEN 2 PLUS Ops-Core FAST Base Jump Helmet Wilcox L4 G11 Mount – ARMY Thanks for the help in advance. |
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Posted: 7/25/2015 10:37:46 AM EDT
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So when I first started looking at nightgoggles.com I didn't even know they were a site sponsor so this is a plus in itself. I am totally new to NV and can someone please tell me if I am headed in the right direction with what I'm thinking of purchasing. NGI/PVS-14 GEN 2 PLUS Ops-Core FAST Base Jump Helmet Wilcox L4 G11 Mount – ARMY Thanks for the help in advance. This is a very good package for the money spent. Thank you. |
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Posted: 7/25/2015 10:42:31 AM EDT
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Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes.
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Posted: 7/25/2015 10:45:33 AM EDT
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From a professional web design stand point, both night googles and tnvc's site makes me want to punch babies. It's ugly and terrible. I say this with love!
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Posted: 7/25/2015 8:28:55 PM EDT
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LOL....
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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:56:42 PM EDT
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Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes. Vic We now have more tubes that just arrived for builds. Sorry for any delays, this kit has been very popular. 
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Posted: 7/31/2015 1:02:42 PM EDT
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We now have more tubes that just arrived for builds. Sorry for any delays, this kit has been very popular.
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Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes. Vic We now have more tubes that just arrived for builds. Sorry for any delays, this kit has been very popular.
Vic Is the price for the MOD3 'Plus' model correct? Price difference between comspec and plus is $930.61. Price difference between comspec and plus in the sentinel line is $555 and difference in the pvs14 line is only $225. Or is there something im missing? |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 2:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the price for the MOD3 'Plus' model correct? Price difference between comspec and plus is $930.61. Price difference between comspec and plus in the sentinel line is $555 and difference in the pvs14 line is only $225. Or is there something im missing? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes. Vic We now have more tubes that just arrived for builds. Sorry for any delays, this kit has been very popular. Vic Is the price for the MOD3 'Plus' model correct? Price difference between comspec and plus is $930.61. Price difference between comspec and plus in the sentinel line is $555 and difference in the pvs14 line is only $225. Or is there something im missing? |
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Posted: 7/31/2015 3:07:37 PM EDT
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All of our prices are correct. Its based on a lot of things - availability of tubes, cost of parts, labor time, build time, etc. And sometimes we feel like we want to offer better prices that what we should. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes. Vic We now have more tubes that just arrived for builds. Sorry for any delays, this kit has been very popular.
Vic Is the price for the MOD3 'Plus' model correct? Price difference between comspec and plus is $930.61. Price difference between comspec and plus in the sentinel line is $555 and difference in the pvs14 line is only $225. Or is there something im missing? Understood. I appreciate all ya'll do for this small market. Still looking forward to some clip on options! |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:53:22 AM EDT
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We wanted to show NGI's newest exclusive product we have brought to market.
This is now included FREE with every FLIR RS, and IRD MKII's and IR Patrols purchased from NGI and TNVC! 
The NGI Mini DVR Recording System gives hunters the ability to digitally record their exploits directly through their thermal imaging system. This device mounts to a variety of rifle buttstocks via an exclusive, custom-designed pouch and connects to either a FLIR or IR Defense Corporation Thermal Device (see specs for compatibility chart), allowing for real time digital video recording at the push of a button. Record your hunts and post your trophy videos online or just keep them for posterity. The Mini DVR features a 2.5? LCD screen with a real time display (960×240), recording at 30fps with date and time stamp. Video records to a removable 8GB TF Memory Card at 640×480 or 320×240 and can be downloaded via an included USB 2.0 cable directly to a laptop or PC in MPEG4 format. The unit is powered by a removable high-capacity Lithium Ion battery for up to 5 hours of continuous playback. Settings and controls are manipulated by on-board buttons while power on/off can be actuated via integral power button or remote fob. 
The Night Goggles Inc Mini DVR Package also includes a custom designed/built video interface cable. Made in the U.S., these cables are built exclusively for NGI and are proprietary to this DVR system. Rugged and reliable with attention paid to to the details, these cables are field-ready and can interface with multiple FLIR and IR Defense Corp products (depending on which cable package is chosen). An integral microphone is secured with the video cable, allowing for better sound capture than a built-in microphone in the DVR itself. The cable is also designed with filters that remove all the horizontal noise allowing your horizontal cross hairs to be seen during playback. 
The Mini DVR secures multiple platforms in a custom-designed, U.S.-made pouch that is made in the same factory as our very popular RISER STOCK POUCH Since the Mini DVR will most often find itself on a rifle, the pouch attaches to a variety of buttstocks via an elastic/webbing harness platform. The harness can be attached on either the right or left side of a stock. The actual pouch adheres to the harness with Velcro and snap closure for a secure attachment. The pouch is constructed of 500d Cordura Nylon for durability and has several very useful features as it was designed with painstaking details. We did not just want to slap together some material and call it a day. You can see below how meticulous we were in designing the pouch to function either rifle of helmet mounted.
We are also including a full NGI Mini DVR Recording System Kit FREE with the purchase of every FLIR RS's, IR Defense IR Hunter Mk2, IR Patrol M250, and M300W! The NGI Mini DVR Recording System is a great, cost-effective way to record your thermal scope adventures. As you can see, our recording package (that includes cables and our pouch) is priced accordingly from $171.99 — $205.99. We do not feel cables and such should be priced so expensively. This package comes with everything you need for your recording needs. Order information HERE Thanks guys! |
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Posted: 8/13/2015 11:32:17 AM EDT
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Stand alone DVR, pouches and cables are now available with some very good pricing. We will be adding more cable choices very soon.
DVR ($79.00), DVR Pouch, ($39.00) Recording cables, (FLIR - $56.00 / IRD - $90.00) Ordering info HERE Thanks guys! Vic |
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Posted: 8/13/2015 1:58:02 PM EDT
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Stand alone DVR, pouches and cables are now available with some very good pricing. We will be adding more cable choices very soon. DVR ($79.00), DVR Pouch, ($39.00) Recording cables, (FLIR - $56.00 / IRD - $90.00) Ordering info HERE Thanks guys! Vic Still new to NV, haven't even purchased everything yet. So you can't use these with the pvs-14s? |
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Posted: 8/13/2015 2:05:28 PM EDT
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Stand alone DVR, pouches and cables are now available with some very good pricing. We will be adding more cable choices very soon. DVR ($79.00), DVR Pouch, ($39.00) Recording cables, (FLIR - $56.00 / IRD - $90.00) Ordering info HERE Thanks guys! Vic Still new to NV, haven't even purchased everything yet. So you can't use these with the pvs-14s? No, traditional NV isn't a "video" system like the thermals, so there's no availability for video out. I'd really like to see Vic's crew add a camera system with a beam splitter like the Wilcox MHRS but priced for mortals. |
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Posted: 8/13/2015 7:23:42 PM EDT
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Stand alone DVR, pouches and cables are now available with some very good pricing. We will be adding more cable choices very soon. DVR ($79.00), DVR Pouch, ($39.00) Recording cables, (FLIR - $56.00 / IRD - $90.00) Ordering info HERE Thanks guys! Vic Still new to NV, haven't even purchased everything yet. So you can't use these with the pvs-14s? No, traditional NV isn't a "video" system like the thermals, so there's no availability for video out. I'd really like to see Vic's crew add a camera system with a beam splitter like the Wilcox MHRS but priced for mortals. Thanks |
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Posted: 8/14/2015 9:57:02 AM EDT
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Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes. Vic I'm struggling with the decision between this and the TNVC Gen3 PVS-14 as my first NV setup. Does anyone have any first hand experience with both of them? Having both eventually would be nice but it's certainly going to take me years to afford that. |
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Posted: 8/16/2015 8:19:01 PM EDT
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I'm struggling with the decision between this and the TNVC Gen3 PVS-14 as my first NV setup. Does anyone have any first hand experience with both of them? Having both eventually would be nice but it's certainly going to take me years to afford that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just to let folks know we are very happy to announce we just released the GEN 2 COMSPEC MOD3 for $3999.00. This is a great price to get into some duals with some very attractive pricing and tubes. Vic I'm struggling with the decision between this and the TNVC Gen3 PVS-14 as my first NV setup. Does anyone have any first hand experience with both of them? Having both eventually would be nice but it's certainly going to take me years to afford that. Having looked through both of tnvc's offerings, I can say either way you go, you won't be disappointed. Only reason I knew the difference between the two is because I own the gen3. If I wouldn't have ever looked through a gen3 and someone handed me tnvc's gen2, I would still have had that "holy shit" moment. |
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Posted: 8/17/2015 6:34:39 PM EDT
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As we mentioned, the Gen 2+ is very close to the Gen 3 in resolution. Where the Gen 3 really shines per say is in very dark environments, where you would need active IR illumination for the Gen 2+ where the Gen 3 may not need it.
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Posted: 8/18/2015 9:18:58 AM EDT
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Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated. I tried a friends 2008 PVS 14 this weekend and loved it, so I'm sure I'd be happy with that but I'm not ditching the Gen2 Mod3 just yet. I'll be buying my helmet and mounts this week from TNVC though so I probably won't be able to resist very long... Not to mention our tasty hog population is growing.
Edit: Yup, ordered a TW EXFIL and Norotos INVG mount... Only a matter of time. I'd love to look through a Gen2 Plus MOD3 if anyone is near the Chattanooga, TN area with one. 
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:17:43 AM EDT
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Got the new NGI mini-DVRs setup with pouches on the IR Hunter MKII-35mm on my SIG 716 7.62mm and the IR Patrol M-300 on my Team Wendy helmet and getting ready to film some big black hogs down!
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:56:15 AM EDT
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PS, I keep the mini remote hooked up on a Carbiner and attach it to my belt loop, works for me.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:00:38 PM EDT
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I first tried mounting the IR Defense Patrol M-300 on with my Wilcox L4 G24 mount on my Alpha helmet but since I wear corrective lenses, I could not get enough space between my glasses and the IR ocular even with the L4 G24 mount extended to the max, I think it would work without glasses though.
The INVG mount provided enough space to easily and comfortably mount the M-300 on my Team Wendy EXFIL without any interference with my glasses, although it too was mounted as far out as the INVG could go, this worked perfectly. I would recommend the INVG mount for those with glasses trying this setup, also when targeting on the .308 using the IR Defense MKII-35mm TWS, it is super easy to rotate the M-300 on the INVG out of the way for proper cheek weld and zero interference with rifle shooting, this is more problematic with the Wilcox L4 G24 mount. Also, I setup the Wilcox Binocular Bridge System SkeetIR/IR Patrol mount to use the dually system of my PVS-14 with the IR Patrol M-300 off the dovetail mounts for real time NV/Thermal viewing. This Wilcox mount system is crazy awesome and even allows you to adjust the inter-pupillary distance between the NV/Thermal devices. It simply is an unreal setup!
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:31:02 PM EDT
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I first tried mounting the IR Defense Patrol M-300 on with my Wilcox L4 G24 mount on my Alpha helmet but since I wear corrective lenses, I could not get enough space between my glasses and the IR ocular even with the L4 G24 mount extended to the max, I think it would work without glasses though. The INVG mount provided enough space to easily and comfortably mount the M-300 on my Team Wendy EXFIL without any interference with my glasses, although it too was mounted as far out as the INVG could go, this worked perfectly. I would recommend the INVG mount for those with glasses trying this setup, also when targeting on the .308 using the IR Defense MKII-35mm TWS, it is super easy to rotate the M-300 on the INVG out of the way for proper cheek weld and zero interference with rifle shooting, this is more problematic with the Wilcox L4 G24 mount. Also, I setup the Wilcox Binocular Bridge System SkeetIR/IR Patrol mount to use the dually system of my PVS-14 with the IR Patrol M-300 off the dovetail mounts for real time NV/Thermal viewing. This Wilcox mount system is crazy awesome and even allows you to adjust the inter-pupillary distance between the NV/Thermal devices. It simply is an unreal setup! I'm excited to get my INVG mount, glad to see the next post down with the same mount/helmet I just ordered. I'm still undecided on what device to go with. Any pro's vs con's with the 14 and Ir patrol in dual? This has crossed my mind and I'm considering a pvs 14 now and then an IR Patrol later or a Mod 3 up front. I should add, primary uses for me will be hog hunting/driving on our property and boating at night. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:52:59 PM EDT
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Others may chime in differently here, but for me it is difficult to be able to mentally use both Thermal and NV in two different eyes.
The PVS-14 is much better for being mobile on two feet/vehicle while the thermal picks up any mammalian life in the dark instantly. Still, they are two different technologies that jive better when used in a fusion device instead of a dually application. The FOVs are different and it is problematic for your brain to be looking through two different devices at the same time, you have to concentrate on just one at a time and then switch back and forth to be able to use both of them. It has more application on a stand scanning for me than it does being mobile, either walking or in a motorized vehicle. Best way to use NV and Thermal at the same time is to have two people, one with helmet mounted NV for situational mobility and the other with helmet mounted thermal for detection. I never drive around at night using any thermal for primary sole navigation in spite of all the claims here to that effect,it is simply too dangerous, but having a passenger with a helmet mounted thermal scanner who is not driving is awesome for maximum detection! The Team Wendy EXFIL and INVG mount is something you will appreciate and enjoy on extended hours of night hunting....or cruising around in your boat with a PVS-14 mounted. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 6:01:13 PM EDT
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Others may chime in differently here, but for me it is difficult to be able to mentally use both Thermal and NV in two different eyes. The PVS-14 is much better for being mobile on two feet/vehicle while the thermal picks up any mammalian life in the dark instantly. Still, they are two different technologies that jive better when used in a fusion device instead of a dually application. The FOVs are different and it is problematic for your brain to be looking through two different devices at the same time, you have to concentrate on just one at a time and then switch back and forth to be able to use both of them. It has more application on a stand scanning for me than it does being mobile, either walking or in a motorized vehicle. Best way to use NV and Thermal at the same time is to have two people, one with helmet mounted NV for situational mobility and the other with helmet mounted thermal for detection. I never drive around at night using any thermal for primary sole navigation in spite of all the claims here to that effect,it is simply too dangerous, but having a passenger with a helmet mounted thermal scanner who is not driving is awesome for maximum detection! The Team Wendy EXFIL and INVG mount is something you will appreciate and enjoy on extended hours of night hunting....or cruising around in your boat with a PVS-14 mounted. I've been reading and researching for roughly 5 years on NV and this is hands down, the best rundown on realistic NV vs Thermal usage for the average guy that I've come across. Thank you very much sir, it's much appreciated. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 6:18:19 PM EDT
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Well I do have dozens of thermal devices and dozens of NV devices that I use all the time at night hunting hogs and coyotes, it just takes some practice!
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Posted: 8/19/2015 7:59:46 PM EDT
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Well I do have dozens of thermal devices and dozens of NV devices that I use all the time at night hunting hogs and coyotes, it just takes some practice!
Someday, someday... In your honest opinion, how much better for travel/driving are dual pvs-14's/mod 3 setups than a single 14? |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 8:21:52 PM EDT
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Well I do have dozens of thermal devices and dozens of NV devices that I use all the time at night hunting hogs and coyotes, it just takes some practice!
Someday, someday... In your honest opinion, how much better for travel/driving are dual pvs-14's/mod 3 setups than a single 14? That one is easy -> twice as good!
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Posted: 8/19/2015 10:01:04 PM EDT
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That one is easy -> twice as good!
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Well I do have dozens of thermal devices and dozens of NV devices that I use all the time at night hunting hogs and coyotes, it just takes some practice!
Someday, someday... In your honest opinion, how much better for travel/driving are dual pvs-14's/mod 3 setups than a single 14? That one is easy -> twice as good!
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Posted: 8/19/2015 10:30:25 PM EDT
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Someday, someday... In your honest opinion, how much better for travel/driving are dual pvs-14's/mod 3 setups than a single 14? I don't have duals, but I prefer PVS-7 for driving over a single 14. I also like the 7's better for scanning with a magnifier, fwiw. I'm very low speed, very high drag |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:23:03 AM EDT
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After reading the thread for a little while, I thought I 'd post this:"
We have used the Gen 3 PVS-14's at WRR for almost 10 years now. However, we also acquired a Gen2 SHP PVS-14 as an extra to give to the guided clients so they could see what we were seeing without having to sweep a weapon. For that purpose, the Gen2+ was really just as good, especially for those that had not used NVG before. Only on the nights with the worst conditions was there a handicap, but then again, its a very simple matter to use IR illuminators. We have Surefire M1Ir's on the helmets and then the excellent Torch Pro's on the HELGA and the rifles. With added IR illumination, you get as good an image minus of course some resolution but still very usable for hogs out to hundreds of yards. The Bino setups are obviously heavier, and give better FOV, but then you don't have one eye acclimated to the dark, either, so when the hunters would try climbing into the monster truck, they had to flip up, and that really slowed the team down, because, given their overall lack of experience they had to do everything much more deliberately. They'd flip up, and then they would have to stand there for a few seconds to acquire the bumper as they re-acclimated. Moral of that story is that you really can apply alot of the training that LEO/ Mil gets to hunting, so I strongly encourage those of you getting into NV to take TNVC's Night Defender or WRR Night Hunter class. Lastly, NGI has immediate access to WRR and vice versa, so if you guys are interested in much more in-depth training, please go to our websites. I'm not a site sponsor so won't promo it here but will gladly come back to help answer practical questions about initial NV purchases and practical questions, since we have been using this gear for hunting professionally for almost 12 years. Furthermore, you definitely will NOT get better CS that with Vic and the crew, I can personally attest to that and that spans many years of doing business together. Picture taken through Gen2+ SHP, no IR, 3/4 moon. Another picture take via Gen2+ PVS-14, this time with IR illumination of the Torch Pro. You can see that with IR the res is actually quite good.  " />
Unretouched photo through Gen 2 (not SHP this time), with no illumination, dark night, no moon, stars only (remember a camera will also reduce light transmission) And then through the same tube, this time with illumination: (Just a little more "green" than Gen 3 but still pretty good)  " />
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Posted: 8/20/2015 3:01:46 PM EDT
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I think I've decided on a single PVS-14. I just can't swing twice that amount the first time out and this gives me some leeway with a laser/illuminator device. Maybe in a couple years I'll be able to add a mod3 to the stable and then I'll have something for me and the wife.
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Posted: 8/20/2015 5:12:02 PM EDT
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I think I've decided on a single PVS-14. I just can't swing twice that amount the first time out and this gives me some leeway with a laser/illuminator device. Maybe in a couple years I'll be able to add a mod3 to the stable and then I'll have something for me and the wife. ^^This is my thinking also^^ |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:16:56 PM EDT
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Having one eye acclimated to the dark night is always good, especially the older you get as it takes that much more time for your rods to see what light there is in the dark.
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Posted: 8/21/2015 12:57:16 AM EDT
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Having one eye acclimated to the dark night is always good, especially the older you get as it takes that much more time for your rods to see what light there is in the dark. Yeah, I took a drive across our farm in a Rzr tonight with a single PVS-14 and no lights. I could tell two would be better but one was doable and my naked eye could see my dash and frightened passenger... Haha, it was extremely dark out. |
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