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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:04:34 PM EDT

Like a Deltapoint or similar?

Posted: 9/30/2014 1:31:05 PM EDT

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Triji RMR does a good job.

Vic

Posted: 9/30/2014 1:32:13 PM EDT

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"Night Vision Compatible" is possibly the most useless and overrated feature ever. ANY optic becomes NV compatible when you turn the brightness way down.

Posted: 9/30/2014 1:38:28 PM EDT

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"Night Vision Compatible" is possibly the most useless and overrated feature ever. ANY optic becomes NV compatible when you turn the brightness way down.

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Err, I may have to disagree with you here with the "ANY" comment.

There are many optics that you can only turn down the brightness so far, that are still too bright for modern NVD's, (these are the units that are NON NV compatible. The NV compatible setting for those optics that have them is not useless and not overrated. They are needed and if not you can and WILL burn a reticle image and/or dot onto ones NVD if that dot or reticle is too bright especially when mounting a PVS-14 to a gun close to a RDS.

Edit, the general rule of thumb is, any lit reticle or dot you can see with your naked eye no matter how dim it appears is too bright for a modern NVD.

Vic

Posted: 9/30/2014 1:44:39 PM EDT

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Isn't the Aimpoint T1 NV compatible?

+1 on Vic's reply. Most non-NV compatible RDS are WAY too bright on even their lowest setting for Gen 3 NV. The lowest setting blooms something awful.

Posted: 9/30/2014 1:47:14 PM EDT

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Isn't the Aimpoint T1 NV compatible?

+1 on Vic's reply. Most non-NV compatible RDS are WAY too bright on even their lowest setting for Gen 3 NV. The lowest setting blooms something awful.

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Of course the TI is, I think 5 settings worth of NV settings. I use the #2 level. (

) I was thinking the smaller MRDS, such as the RMR, Insight MRDS, Older Doctor Optics (not produced any longer) along with the example the OP gave along those lines.

Vic

Posted: 9/30/2014 2:03:54 PM EDT

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"Night Vision Compatible" is possibly the most useless and overrated feature ever. ANY optic becomes NV compatible when you turn the brightness way down.

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Show me how to turn the brightness way down on a Deltapoint then. I'll wait.

Posted: 9/30/2014 2:05:34 PM EDT

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Triji RMR does a good job.

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Thanks. Which one? The adjustable LED turned all the way down?

Posted: 9/30/2014 2:43:35 PM EDT

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"Night Vision Compatible" is possibly the most useless and overrated feature ever. ANY optic becomes NV compatible when you turn the brightness way down.

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Which red dot do you use with nightvision?

Posted: 9/30/2014 2:48:42 PM EDT

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Like a Deltapoint or similar?

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FYI, I am building my wife's first AR for her birthday. I just got the Primary Arms latest Advanced Micro Dot (MD-AD) which is advertised as having 2 NOD settings.

I love the sight ... but the lowest NOD setting has a very faint red dot I can see clearly in a well lit indoor room .....................

I also have an EXPS 3 - when it's in NOD mode, you can't see anything in pitch black conditions.

I would recommend following Vic's advice ... "If you can see it - it is not NOD compatible."

Posted: 9/30/2014 3:55:41 PM EDT

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Thanks. Which one? The adjustable LED turned all the way down?

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Triji RMR does a good job.

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Thanks. Which one? The adjustable LED turned all the way down?

Yes, the RM-06 when adjust to the lowest setting worked well. I should have mentioned which version.

Also, I was working with the auto dimming RMR a few weeks ago while testing the X400V-IRc and was surprised how good the dot appeared with a 14 with virtually no blooming. Granted, I did NOT have the 14 weapon mounted directly behind it a mere inch or two, but my head mounted 14 with a handgun out in front looked pretty darn good.

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:02:30 PM EDT

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Show me how to turn the brightness way down on a Deltapoint then. I'll wait.

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"Night Vision Compatible" is possibly the most useless and overrated feature ever. ANY optic becomes NV compatible when you turn the brightness way down.

Show me how to turn the brightness way down on a Deltapoint then. I'll wait.

I can show you how to turn the brightness down on a Primary Arms red dot or any other of the Aimpoint clones that use a rotary illumination knob.

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:24:13 PM EDT

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Works perfectly

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:40:22 PM EDT

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My Docter works great!

Posted: 9/30/2014 4:56:57 PM EDT

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not a micro, but T1 works great especially with ir illumination on rail
unsure if I want a surefire x300v x400v-ir or wait on dbal pl

Posted: 9/30/2014 5:03:38 PM EDT

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not a micro, but T1 works great especially with ir illumination on rail
unsure if I want a surefire x300v x400v-ir or wait on dbal pl

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3790/11328837023_0b13be7f53_b.jpg

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i think th ePL would be bigger than the gun...

Posted: 9/30/2014 5:11:17 PM EDT

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I can show you how to turn the brightness down on a Primary Arms red dot or any other of the Aimpoint clones that use a rotary illumination knob.

Is that by changing the resistors or do you know of another way?

Posted: 9/30/2014 5:28:07 PM EDT

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I can show you how to turn the brightness down on a Primary Arms red dot or any other of the Aimpoint clones that use a rotary illumination knob.

Is that by changing the resistors or do you know of another way?

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Yeah you just swap out some resistors.

Posted: 9/30/2014 5:32:36 PM EDT

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not a micro, but T1 works great especially with ir illumination on rail
unsure if I want a surefire x300v x400v-ir or wait on dbal pl

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3790/11328837023_0b13be7f53_b.jpg

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SQUIRREL!!!

Posted: 9/30/2014 6:10:07 PM EDT

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Yeah you just swap out some resistors.

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I can show you how to turn the brightness down on a Primary Arms red dot or any other of the Aimpoint clones that use a rotary illumination knob.

Is that by changing the resistors or do you know of another way?

Yeah you just swap out some resistors.

Thanks, always trying to learn new tricks.

Posted: 9/30/2014 7:25:15 PM EDT

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The new PA micro dot is listed as NV compatible, but the lowest nv setting on their first NV compatible optic is still visible to my naked eye. It's REALLY dim, but I can still see it. I can't really used it much with my PVS, so I can't tell you how bright it is - I only ever used it to zero my IR laser.

Posted: 9/30/2014 10:06:40 PM EDT

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Yes, the RM-06 when adjust to the lowest setting worked well. I should have mentioned which version.

Also, I was working with the auto dimming RMR a few weeks ago while testing the X400V-IRc and was surprised how good the dot appeared with a 14 with virtually no blooming. Granted, I did NOT have the 14 weapon mounted directly behind it a mere inch or two, but my head mounted 14 with a handgun out in front looked pretty darn good.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/X400GearShotCloseup_zps379dd94f.jpg

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My RM06 works great with my goggle.

I also use the TM14 on my rifles to get a close "zero" my DBALs without going to the range. Other than that the goggle stays on my head.

Posted: 10/1/2014 1:19:55 PM EDT

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I'll have to double check when I get home, but I'm pretty sure the Insight MRDS has a NOD setting.

Posted: 10/1/2014 2:14:02 PM EDT

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I'll have to double check when I get home, but I'm pretty sure the Insight MRDS has a NOD setting.

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Thanks... insight does list this sight as being NV compatible. Awesome.

Posted: 10/1/2014 2:15:51 PM EDT

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I picked up an RMR07 has anyone tried it? it's the 6.5 moa I was afraid of blooming but most reviews seemed to lean towards the larger dot for acquisition, but there weren't many NV reviews.

I may have to do some trading, I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.

Posted: 10/1/2014 3:59:15 PM EDT

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I'm going to try to find the time to test my Deltapoint though the NOD tonight, see if it blooms badly.

Posted: 10/8/2014 12:05:51 PM EDT

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Apparently the new T1 "clone" from Primary Arms has NV settings. Looks like it would be excellent for .22s and other guns you don't want to slap a $500+ optic on...

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_Advanced_Micro_Dot_with_Push_Buttons_p/md-ads.htm

Posted: 10/8/2014 8:55:50 PM EDT

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cj7hawk posted this method a while back for modding cheapo red dots with rotary dials, like the original primary arms or bushnells
http://aunv.blackice.com.au/cgi-bin/nightvision/forum?index=projects&story=reflex

i've tried IR pass filters too. either installed on the nv device or installed behind the red dot.

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Posted: 10/8/2014 10:32:16 PM EDT

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I can confirm the new Primary Arms MD-ADS has night--vision settings.

Posted: 10/9/2014 9:14:06 AM EDT

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I use an RM-02 on all of my pistols. It works great under NODs. Tijicon's auto-brightness really works well in all situations. From WL with an X300U, to NOD's, to daily use.

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