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Posted: 9/21/2014 3:05:26 AM EDT
Hi All,
Just thought I'd post this - I couldn't find my normal camera last night, so printed up a quick DSLR adapter for my PVS/14 and Micro 14 - Matched it up with the appropriate lens on the DSLR and got some good results - Certainly better than expected.  Nothing special - just screws into the lens, and adapts the NOD in the correct location. Can take images from edge-of-glass ( will go to a full circle when zoomed out ) -  To a near-full circle -  To a full-square image.  Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:18:02 AM EDT
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Was a great night last night, shame you had to leave early to go and do a rescue :)
I've got my Xmas list lined up :) The camera adaptor is a diamond in the rough ..... AAA+++ on that little gem :) Regards Skip :) |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:18:09 AM EDT
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Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: 
I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:58:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Nice work -  Have you looked at the cheap chinese beamsplitters? They might be suited - The look large enough -. David
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:07:43 AM EDT
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Nice work -
Have you looked at the cheap chinese beamsplitters? They might be suited - The look large enough -. David Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Nice work -
Have you looked at the cheap chinese beamsplitters? They might be suited - The look large enough -. David I haven't, but I'm a big fan of cheap  Got a link? Here's the one I got: http://www.edmundoptics.com/optics/beamsplitters/plate-beamsplitters/commercial-grade-elliptical-beamsplitters/27610 It was on sale for $37. I hope it will work. I don't really have any clue what I'm doing.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:12:40 AM EDT
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Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Any video? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:14:43 AM EDT
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Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg I think this is a first. Very cool! Please follow up on this when you get the beam spliter set up. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:39:48 PM EDT
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Hi All, Just thought I'd post this - I couldn't find my normal camera last night, so printed up a quick DSLR adapter for my PVS/14 and Micro 14 - Matched it up with the appropriate lens on the DSLR and got some good results - Certainly better than expected. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-NV-CANON-MOUNT.jpg Nothing special - just screws into the lens, and adapts the NOD in the correct location. Can take images from edge-of-glass ( will go to a full circle when zoomed out ) - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2478n_Small.JPG To a near-full circle - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2516n_Small.JPG To a full-square image. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2487n_Small.JPG Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Great design idea. Did you use a 3D printer to make the adapter? If so, any thought on perhaps making a couple more of them to sell. I'd be interested in one for my canon DSLR. Thanks, Rob |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 4:49:59 PM EDT
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Nice job ! What tube were you using ?
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Posted: 9/30/2014 5:10:02 PM EDT
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SUBSCRIBED!
My active radar is on for an MHRS, but I'm not going to pony up the $6k for one. An ad hoc unit like this for under $1,000 is what I'm all about. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:03:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't, but I'm a big fan of cheap Got a link? Here's the one I got: http://www.edmundoptics.com/optics/beamsplitters/plate-beamsplitters/commercial-grade-elliptical-beamsplitters/27610 It was on sale for $37. I hope it will work. I don't really have any clue what I'm doing.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Looks good! For a little more stability, without the bulk of a tripod, a shooting stick with a 1/4" thread works pretty well: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3862/15214402679_d0956ec772_c.jpg I've been working on kind of a DIY MHRS for video recording. Currently, I have a Panasonic HX-A100 attached to an extra PVS-14 on the side of my helmet. I made an adapter by gluing an old flashlight head to the eyecup retaining ring. The Panasonic camera just slides in. It works pretty well, but it weighs about 100lbs! I ordered a beam splitter from Edmunds Optics so I can get rid of the extra PVS-14 and just attach the camera to the eyepiece at a 90 degree angle. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15401220465_858770c2fd_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/15214408629_fe660b7f5d_c.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/15214569558_ebca144ffa_c.jpg Nice work - Have you looked at the cheap chinese beamsplitters? They might be suited - The look large enough -. David I haven't, but I'm a big fan of cheap Got a link? Here's the one I got: http://www.edmundoptics.com/optics/beamsplitters/plate-beamsplitters/commercial-grade-elliptical-beamsplitters/27610 It was on sale for $37. I hope it will work. I don't really have any clue what I'm doing.Oh, that's a pretty basic piece of equipment to work with - you can get the likes from surplusshed.com for a few dollars plus postage. They have lots of surplus beamsplitters. Also if your using beamsplitters, you can use a smaller one, since you only need enough angle for the imaging sensor and you might be able to bounce the entire image of a tiny reflector. I was thinking more along the lines of a prismatic beamsplitter that allows rear-sight and side-sight - eg, http://www.shootercbgear.com/product_info.php?products_id=3602 You can probably get them on ebay or aliexpress cheaper - They are a knockoff, and are probably poorly made, but the prism would likely be quite usable. Otherwise, Surplusshed does have the optical combiners - They are intended to allow video overlay on an ANVIS system ( ocular lens ) but would probably work if inverted - I'll have a look and post later about suitability. That would let you project directy onto a CCD focal plane array and would save on weight significantly. Regards David
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice job ! What tube were you using ? Thats an unknown tube, that I repotted and rebuilt long ago - It's a DBT tube - :) It's actuall quite a dark tube because I set the image gain low - But a combination of the camera setting and tube selection means it works well with just about any tube. David
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:09:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great design idea. Did you use a 3D printer to make the adapter? If so, any thought on perhaps making a couple more of them to sell. I'd be interested in one for my canon DSLR. Thanks, Rob Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hi All, Just thought I'd post this - I couldn't find my normal camera last night, so printed up a quick DSLR adapter for my PVS/14 and Micro 14 - Matched it up with the appropriate lens on the DSLR and got some good results - Certainly better than expected. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-NV-CANON-MOUNT.jpg Nothing special - just screws into the lens, and adapts the NOD in the correct location. Can take images from edge-of-glass ( will go to a full circle when zoomed out ) - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2478n_Small.JPG To a near-full circle - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2516n_Small.JPG To a full-square image. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2487n_Small.JPG Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Great design idea. Did you use a 3D printer to make the adapter? If so, any thought on perhaps making a couple more of them to sell. I'd be interested in one for my canon DSLR. Thanks, Rob Yes, 3D printed in three parts that fit together to lock it all in - It uses both the internal threads and the external bayonet fitting of the lens for maximum strength and to avoid distorting the parts it connects to - I'm just waiting to hear back from Defence on whether it's a controlled item or not - I have some challenges sending parts to the US at the moment, but will try to find a local supplier who can make, test and supply. Regards David
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Posted: 9/30/2014 10:36:59 PM EDT
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Great, thanks so much for getting back to me. Please let me know when you find out. Thanks.
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Posted: 10/1/2014 4:42:00 PM EDT
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Oh, that's a pretty basic piece of equipment to work with - you can get the likes from surplusshed.com for a few dollars plus postage. They have lots of surplus beamsplitters. Also if your using beamsplitters, you can use a smaller one, since you only need enough angle for the imaging sensor and you might be able to bounce the entire image of a tiny reflector. I was thinking more along the lines of a prismatic beamsplitter that allows rear-sight and side-sight - eg, http://www.shootercbgear.com/product_info.php?products_id=3602 You can probably get them on ebay or aliexpress cheaper - They are a knockoff, and are probably poorly made, but the prism would likely be quite usable. Otherwise, Surplusshed does have the optical combiners - They are intended to allow video overlay on an ANVIS system ( ocular lens ) but would probably work if inverted - I'll have a look and post later about suitability. That would let you project directy onto a CCD focal plane array and would save on weight significantly. Regards David Man, that site is awesome. It's like a nerd's paradise. I have a strong urge to buy everything on there and then spend the next few months trying to figure out what the heck I bought and how I can use it. 
I got the beam splitter in the mail today. It looks like it will work, but I probably should have gotten a smaller one as you suggested. That way I won't have to mount the goggles so far away from my eyes. It'll be a little over an inch with this one. I'll likely grab one, or maybe a couple of the prismatic beam splitters too and see how they compare. That's closer to what I had originally conceptualized, but I was pretty much taking a shot in the dark and I happened to stumble upon the plate type. 
I'm also not completely sold on the Panasonic Camera. Ideally, I'd like to get something a little smaller like one of those pinhole or button cameras that are sold by security companies, but I don't know what the picture quality is like on those things. |
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Posted: 10/1/2014 6:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, that site is awesome. It's like a nerd's paradise. I have a strong urge to buy everything on there and then spend the next few months trying to figure out what the heck I bought and how I can use it. I got the beam splitter in the mail today. It looks like it will work, but I probably should have gotten a smaller one as you suggested. That way I won't have to mount the goggles so far away from my eyes. It'll be a little over an inch with this one. I'll likely grab one, or maybe a couple of the prismatic beam splitters too and see how they compare. That's closer to what I had originally conceptualized, but I was pretty much taking a shot in the dark and I happened to stumble upon the plate type. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/15227386398_b4621f5d42_z.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15413984285_8137bd35d6_z.jpg I'm also not completely sold on the Panasonic Camera. Ideally, I'd like to get something a little smaller like one of those pinhole or button cameras that are sold by security companies, but I don't know what the picture quality is like on those things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh, that's a pretty basic piece of equipment to work with - you can get the likes from surplusshed.com for a few dollars plus postage. They have lots of surplus beamsplitters. Also if your using beamsplitters, you can use a smaller one, since you only need enough angle for the imaging sensor and you might be able to bounce the entire image of a tiny reflector. I was thinking more along the lines of a prismatic beamsplitter that allows rear-sight and side-sight - eg, http://www.shootercbgear.com/product_info.php?products_id=3602 You can probably get them on ebay or aliexpress cheaper - They are a knockoff, and are probably poorly made, but the prism would likely be quite usable. Otherwise, Surplusshed does have the optical combiners - They are intended to allow video overlay on an ANVIS system ( ocular lens ) but would probably work if inverted - I'll have a look and post later about suitability. That would let you project directy onto a CCD focal plane array and would save on weight significantly. Regards David Man, that site is awesome. It's like a nerd's paradise. I have a strong urge to buy everything on there and then spend the next few months trying to figure out what the heck I bought and how I can use it. I got the beam splitter in the mail today. It looks like it will work, but I probably should have gotten a smaller one as you suggested. That way I won't have to mount the goggles so far away from my eyes. It'll be a little over an inch with this one. I'll likely grab one, or maybe a couple of the prismatic beam splitters too and see how they compare. That's closer to what I had originally conceptualized, but I was pretty much taking a shot in the dark and I happened to stumble upon the plate type. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2943/15227386398_b4621f5d42_z.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15413984285_8137bd35d6_z.jpg I'm also not completely sold on the Panasonic Camera. Ideally, I'd like to get something a little smaller like one of those pinhole or button cameras that are sold by security companies, but I don't know what the picture quality is like on those things. I'm looking forward to seeing how your project comes out - You have some excellent ideas and you execute them really well - :) Regards David
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Posted: 10/2/2014 12:08:03 PM EDT
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I'm looking forward to seeing how your project comes out - You have some excellent ideas and you execute them really well - :) Regards David Thank you! I'm going to start a new thread so I don't continue to hijack yours I have a feeling I'll be needing a lot of input from you on this as I'm already far outside my zone of competence!
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Posted: 10/9/2014 4:18:42 PM EDT
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Yes, 3D printed in three parts that fit together to lock it all in - It uses both the internal threads and the external bayonet fitting of the lens for maximum strength and to avoid distorting the parts it connects to - I'm just waiting to hear back from Defence on whether it's a controlled item or not - I have some challenges sending parts to the US at the moment, but will try to find a local supplier who can make, test and supply. Regards David Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hi All, Just thought I'd post this - I couldn't find my normal camera last night, so printed up a quick DSLR adapter for my PVS/14 and Micro 14 - Matched it up with the appropriate lens on the DSLR and got some good results - Certainly better than expected. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-NV-CANON-MOUNT.jpg Nothing special - just screws into the lens, and adapts the NOD in the correct location. Can take images from edge-of-glass ( will go to a full circle when zoomed out ) - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2478n_Small.JPG To a near-full circle - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2516n_Small.JPG To a full-square image. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2487n_Small.JPG Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Great design idea. Did you use a 3D printer to make the adapter? If so, any thought on perhaps making a couple more of them to sell. I'd be interested in one for my canon DSLR. Thanks, Rob Yes, 3D printed in three parts that fit together to lock it all in - It uses both the internal threads and the external bayonet fitting of the lens for maximum strength and to avoid distorting the parts it connects to - I'm just waiting to hear back from Defence on whether it's a controlled item or not - I have some challenges sending parts to the US at the moment, but will try to find a local supplier who can make, test and supply. Regards David Any luck with the adapter? Would it be an itar controlled item being that it's a camera lens adapter? |
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Posted: 10/9/2014 7:52:22 PM EDT
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Quote History Quoted: Any luck with the adapter? Would it be an itar controlled item being that it's a camera lens adapter? Quote History Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hi All, Just thought I'd post this - I couldn't find my normal camera last night, so printed up a quick DSLR adapter for my PVS/14 and Micro 14 - Matched it up with the appropriate lens on the DSLR and got some good results - Certainly better than expected. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-NV-CANON-MOUNT.jpg Nothing special - just screws into the lens, and adapts the NOD in the correct location. Can take images from edge-of-glass ( will go to a full circle when zoomed out ) - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2478n_Small.JPG To a near-full circle - http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2516n_Small.JPG To a full-square image. http://aunv.blackice.com.au/userfiles/david-IMG_2487n_Small.JPG Anyway, it's easier than holding both the NOD and a Camera - one in each hand - and the DSLR works well - now I just have to enable image stabilization. Regards David Great design idea. Did you use a 3D printer to make the adapter? If so, any thought on perhaps making a couple more of them to sell. I'd be interested in one for my canon DSLR. Thanks, Rob Yes, 3D printed in three parts that fit together to lock it all in - It uses both the internal threads and the external bayonet fitting of the lens for maximum strength and to avoid distorting the parts it connects to - I'm just waiting to hear back from Defence on whether it's a controlled item or not - I have some challenges sending parts to the US at the moment, but will try to find a local supplier who can make, test and supply. Regards David Any luck with the adapter? Would it be an itar controlled item being that it's a camera lens adapter? No, it's not ITAR controlled, now confirmed. More to post later - David |
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