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Posted: 12/23/2014 11:29:49 AM EDT
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So I wanted to do a full review, but pretty much everything is said on the first page. Let me just reiterate that these really do feel and perform exactly like a full power PEQ-15. I'm mil so obviously I have one on my service weapon and a couple times last night I totally forgot it wasn't the real thing on there. There's something really fun about having something this close to the real thing that you can use on your own land. Thanks again, Vic and everyone else at TNVC. I was only gonna buy one but my MK18 just might need one sometime...
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Posted: 12/23/2014 11:58:29 AM EDT
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Under complete darkness I get a full circle, but if there is a little light the top and bottom wash out and I just have a bar of illumination. Mine does the same thing... |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 1:05:16 PM EDT
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Under complete darkness I get a full circle, but if there is a little light the top and bottom wash out and I just have a bar of illumination. Mine does the same thing... I've never seen a .MIL PEQ-15 that does NOT do this on low power. That's just how they work. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 2:35:24 PM EDT
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I've never seen a .MIL PEQ-15 that does NOT do this on low power. That's just how they work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Under complete darkness I get a full circle, but if there is a little light the top and bottom wash out and I just have a bar of illumination. Mine does the same thing... I've never seen a .MIL PEQ-15 that does NOT do this on low power. That's just how they work. Bummer |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 4:05:13 PM EDT
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Doing our best with more and more units getting sent out! We are in FULL COURT SHIPPING PRESS!
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Posted: 12/23/2014 4:18:58 PM EDT
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Doing our best with more and more units getting sent out! We are in FULL COURT SHIPPING PRESS!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/ATPIALS_zpsfaf5e7b8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/ATPIALS1_zps3893e434.jpg That is some serious coin in those boxes. Thanks for getting mine out so fast! I guess it paid off to take the lunge right away. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 6:58:53 PM EDT
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Fucking Outstanding Work Gents!!!!!!!
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:19:03 PM EDT
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Fucking Outstanding Work Gents!!!!!!!
http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz274/arfcomspikes08/ScreenShot2014-12-23at45642PM_zpscffe0e16.png LoL, classic... Looks to be a new Avatar for someone!! 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:19:52 PM EDT
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So I wanted to do a full review, but pretty much everything is said on the first page. Let me just reiterate that these really do feel and perform exactly like a full power PEQ-15. I'm mil so obviously I have one on my service weapon and a couple times last night I totally forgot it wasn't the real thing on there. There's something really fun about having something this close to the real thing that you can use on your own land. Thanks again, Vic and everyone else at TNVC. I was only gonna buy one but my MK18 just might need one sometime... Welcome, and glad you're liking the unit! Thank you for the order. Vic |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:57:53 PM EDT
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Christmas early...
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Posted: 12/23/2014 8:02:26 PM EDT
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I wish they made a 3 dot triangle filter so I could run around like predator.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 10:17:47 PM EDT
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Heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy! Just got a tracking number for my PEQ-15. Kicker is, it's second batch. Anyone cancel their order and help me out? If so, thanks! Coming Monday
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Posted: 12/23/2014 10:35:18 PM EDT
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Heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy! Just got a tracking number for my PEQ-15. Kicker is, it's second batch. Anyone cancel their order and help me out? If so, thanks! Coming Monday I just got the same thing no more than an hour ago. I was led to believe that I was 2nd batch as well. I'm definitely not complaining though. 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 10:36:30 PM EDT
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I ordered black. Maybe that's it
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Posted: 12/23/2014 11:30:43 PM EDT
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I wish they made a 3 dot triangle filter so I could run around like predator. No there's a thinking man's idea. 
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Posted: 12/23/2014 11:47:36 PM EDT
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I can see what's said about the black bars top and bottom. Don't know if it's normal and this is a bad picture to show it but the illuminator is not round. It is shadowed top and bottom to make a more oval shape. Cannot test outside since I got to go to work but it's not like pictures on first page and even my cheapo ir laser illuminator is perfectly round. What do the expertz say?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 12:57:15 AM EDT
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Can we expect a Class I PEQ-16 in the future?.
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I can see what's said about the black bars top and bottom. Don't know if it's normal and this is a bad picture to show it but the illuminator is not round. It is shadowed top and bottom to make a more oval shape. Cannot test outside since I got to go to work but it's not like pictures on first page and even my cheapo ir laser illuminator is perfectly round. What do the expertz say? <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/hangingchads/media/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/hangingchads/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg</a> My LA-5C did the same thing on low and when shining onto a close wall. However it disappeared when I adjusted the focus or I pointed it further away. In either cases it turned into a circle with only a black bar on the bottom. I think it has to do with how the glass is set into the unit so either the distance or how the lens is rotated produces this effect. Obviously you can't rotate your focus but try pointing it further away. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 1:35:32 AM EDT
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No pics, but I went out in the woods away from the lights and it looked great to me. Its not a perfect circle but I like it. When targeting you only see the dot in all the excitement.
Wish it would friggin' quit raining so I could go finish zeroing and go hunting. One more day of work and I'm off until Jan4. Some pigs are not going to make it to 2015. I moved the laser all over my rail and finally decided I liked it here...for now. The FLIR sits so low anything on the top rail is visible, even a Knight's front BUIS. On the right side I can sling it up and it doesn't poke me walking around, and I can turn it on without a tape switch pretty easy. Still need to use it awhile to decide final position. 
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Posted: 12/24/2014 1:46:23 AM EDT
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Can we expect a Class I PEQ-16 in the future?.
Ugh, I'm not a big fan of the 16. I've had both variants and neither was that great, IMO. The visible light in both wasn't that great. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 2:17:14 AM EDT
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Ugh, I'm not a big fan of the 16. I've had both variants and neither was that great, IMO. The visible light in both wasn't that great. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can we expect a Class I PEQ-16 in the future?.
Ugh, I'm not a big fan of the 16. I've had both variants and neither was that great, IMO. The visible light in both wasn't that great. Dang. 
I just put a new build together and I grip out too far for any light to be at the 3 or 9 position. I used to run just a LAM but the lack of white light on the rifle had me worried. Maybe a X400V-IR-C would work. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 8:50:39 AM EDT
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Can we expect a Class I PEQ-16 in the future?.
My LA-5C did the same thing on low and when shining onto a close wall. However it disappeared when I adjusted the focus or I pointed it further away. In either cases it turned into a circle with only a black bar on the bottom. I think it has to do with how the glass is set into the unit so either the distance or how the lens is rotated produces this effect. Obviously you can't rotate your focus but try pointing it further away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Can we expect a Class I PEQ-16 in the future?.
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I can see what's said about the black bars top and bottom. Don't know if it's normal and this is a bad picture to show it but the illuminator is not round. It is shadowed top and bottom to make a more oval shape. Cannot test outside since I got to go to work but it's not like pictures on first page and even my cheapo ir laser illuminator is perfectly round. What do the expertz say? <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/hangingchads/media/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/hangingchads/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg</a> My LA-5C did the same thing on low and when shining onto a close wall. However it disappeared when I adjusted the focus or I pointed it further away. In either cases it turned into a circle with only a black bar on the bottom. I think it has to do with how the glass is set into the unit so either the distance or how the lens is rotated produces this effect. Obviously you can't rotate your focus but try pointing it further away. Hmm more testing then for me. Too bad I'm at work cause I really want to play with it. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 1:32:07 PM EDT
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No pics, but I went out in the woods away from the lights and it looked great to me. Its not a perfect circle but I like it. When targeting you only see the dot in all the excitement. Wish it would friggin' quit raining so I could go finish zeroing and go hunting. One more day of work and I'm off until Jan4. Some pigs are not going to make it to 2015. I moved the laser all over my rail and finally decided I liked it here...for now. The FLIR sits so low anything on the top rail is visible, even a Knight's front BUIS. On the right side I can sling it up and it doesn't poke me walking around, and I can turn it on without a tape switch pretty easy. Still need to use it awhile to decide final position. http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/loftusj/ATPIAL-C/P1000757_zpsb6e45c1d.jpg Why not add a riser and than mount the FLIR to that so you can run the laser at 12 O'clock? |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 1:57:43 PM EDT
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I can see what's said about the black bars top and bottom. Don't know if it's normal and this is a bad picture to show it but the illuminator is not round. It is shadowed top and bottom to make a more oval shape. Cannot test outside since I got to go to work but it's not like pictures on first page and even my cheapo ir laser illuminator is perfectly round. What do the expertz say? <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/hangingchads/media/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/hangingchads/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg</a> Get outside and down range brother, you'll be fine....
....Also use those covers while indoors, will cut down the blooming considerably. Vic |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 2:53:33 PM EDT
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Why not add a riser and than mount the FLIR to that so you can run the laser at 12 O'clock? That would not be good IMO. I'd lose the proper cheek weld and position of the scope, which is fine as - is. Another mount = another source of slop in the mounting, more weight, something else to come loose at a critical time. Not for me. Anyway, there's no need to have the laser at 12. At 3 is fine, and that is where I was running the DBAL this is replacing. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 6:38:33 PM EDT
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Get outside and down range brother, you'll be fine....
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I can see what's said about the black bars top and bottom. Don't know if it's normal and this is a bad picture to show it but the illuminator is not round. It is shadowed top and bottom to make a more oval shape. Cannot test outside since I got to go to work but it's not like pictures on first page and even my cheapo ir laser illuminator is perfectly round. What do the expertz say? <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/hangingchads/media/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/hangingchads/4ADE0317-A2DF-4AD4-9E8E-89F46D017D46_zpsk8gffxzo.jpg</a> Get outside and down range brother, you'll be fine....
....Also use those covers while indoors, will cut down the blooming considerably. Vic Yeah I messed around with covers on and off indoors but I got it in the mail the Sam day I had to go to work so no get to test till New Years 
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Posted: 12/24/2014 9:55:02 PM EDT
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So, does anyone know if the Surefire SR07-D-IT is momentary only or can you double tap it for constant on like the included tape switch?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:13:35 PM EDT
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So, does anyone know if the Surefire SR07-D-IT is momentary only or can you double tap it for constant on like the included tape switch? You can double tap it. Got my ATPIAL and SR-D-IT today. It's awesome. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:34:55 PM EDT
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So what is the blue screw for on these if there is no high power? Is it removable and does the switch still rotate to the high setting but brightness stays on low?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:39:18 PM EDT
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You can double tap it. Got my ATPIAL and SR-D-IT today. It's awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, does anyone know if the Surefire SR07-D-IT is momentary only or can you double tap it for constant on like the included tape switch? You can double tap it. Got my ATPIAL and SR-D-IT today. It's awesome. Fantastic!! Thank you for the information. |
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Posted: 12/24/2014 11:44:02 PM EDT
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So what is the blue screw for on these if there is no high power? Is it removable and does the switch still rotate to the high setting but brightness stays on low? Screw is removable and it will just stay in low. It will howver allow you to switch to illuminator only by going to high settings but will still be low power. |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 1:45:28 AM EDT
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Opened mine, it is fantastic!!!
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:42:36 PM EDT
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After two failed delivery attempts, I got it yesterday! Thanks TNVC!
You guys rock!
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:46:05 PM EDT
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Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing in one more photo!
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Posted: 12/26/2014 1:17:10 PM EDT
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Finally made it
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Posted: 12/26/2014 3:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally made it http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/dylang32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2101_zps0be00e5b.jpgb http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/dylang32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2092_zpsc94cd93a.jpg Thanks to Vic and Kristen So you're not mad any longer? (I saw your HTF posting...) |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 6:20:58 PM EDT
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Finally made it
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/dylang32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2101_zps0be00e5b.jpgb http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/dylang32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2092_zpsc94cd93a.jpg Thanks to Vic and Kristen So you're not mad any longer? (I saw your HTF posting...) Although it was a frustraiting week of waiting all is good and TNVC took care of everything. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 11:58:23 PM EDT
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Screw is removable and it will just stay in low. It will however allow you to switch to illuminator only by going to high settings but will still be low power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what is the blue screw for on these if there is no high power? Is it removable and does the switch still rotate to the high setting but brightness stays on low? Screw is removable and it will just stay in low. It will however allow you to switch to illuminator only by going to high settings but will still be low power. I removed mine solely for the benefit of running the illuminator only, until I noticed that with the screw removed, I'm left with a hole to the internals of the otherwise well-waterproofed ATPIAL. Worse yet, the hole is in a recessed area of the ATPIAL body, draining a much large area into the case. I wouldn't hazard a guess as to how long the unit would continue to function in even a light rain. Needless to say, I replaced the screw. I'll probably pull the screw again, but a tiny bit of silicone sealant on the threads, and reinsert the screw one last time. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:12:19 AM EDT
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I removed mine solely for the benefit of running the illuminator only, until I noticed that with the screw removed, I'm left with a hole to the internals of the otherwise well-waterproofed ATPIAL. Worse yet, the hole is in a recessed area of the ATPIAL body, draining a much large area into the case. I wouldn't hazard a guess as to how long the unit would continue to function in even a light rain. Needless to say, I replaced the screw. I'll probably pull the screw again, but a tiny bit of silicone sealant on the threads, and reinsert the screw one last time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what is the blue screw for on these if there is no high power? Is it removable and does the switch still rotate to the high setting but brightness stays on low? Screw is removable and it will just stay in low. It will however allow you to switch to illuminator only by going to high settings but will still be low power. I removed mine solely for the benefit of running the illuminator only, until I noticed that with the screw removed, I'm left with a hole to the internals of the otherwise well-waterproofed ATPIAL. Worse yet, the hole is in a recessed area of the ATPIAL body, draining a much large area into the case. I wouldn't hazard a guess as to how long the unit would continue to function in even a light rain. Needless to say, I replaced the screw. I'll probably pull the screw again, but a tiny bit of silicone sealant on the threads, and reinsert the screw one last time. I've never seen an ATPIAL with an opening into the internals when you remove the safety screw. Yours is either a singular oddity, or you're not seeing what you think you're seeing. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:24:09 AM EDT
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Do you really think L3 would design their lockout screw hole (which is also on the Mil models) with a pass through directly to the unit's internal circuitry?
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Posted: 12/27/2014 4:32:10 AM EDT
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Man, you guys are making me anxious.
maybe I shoulda held off on another 6920. Sigh. Salad days and all.
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Posted: 12/27/2014 11:40:05 AM EDT
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I've never seen an ATPIAL with an opening into the internals when you remove the safety screw. Yours is either a singular oddity, or you're not seeing what you think you're seeing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what is the blue screw for on these if there is no high power? Is it removable and does the switch still rotate to the high setting but brightness stays on low? Screw is removable and it will just stay in low. It will however allow you to switch to illuminator only by going to high settings but will still be low power. I removed mine solely for the benefit of running the illuminator only, until I noticed that with the screw removed, I'm left with a hole to the internals of the otherwise well-waterproofed ATPIAL. Worse yet, the hole is in a recessed area of the ATPIAL body, draining a much large area into the case. I wouldn't hazard a guess as to how long the unit would continue to function in even a light rain. Needless to say, I replaced the screw. I'll probably pull the screw again, but a tiny bit of silicone sealant on the threads, and reinsert the screw one last time. I've never seen an ATPIAL with an opening into the internals when you remove the safety screw. Yours is either a singular oddity, or you're not seeing what you think you're seeing. The hole is not just a blind dead-ended threaded hole; it definitely opens into a cavity. Take a look for yourself if you own one, and let me know what you see. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:47:53 PM EDT
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The hole is not just a blind dead-ended threaded hole; it definitely opens into a cavity. Take a look for yourself if you own one, and let me know what you see. I only own the .MIL version (a few of them) and not one opens into the unit. Not sure if / why your civilian / consumer version would. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:18:04 PM EDT
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It is virtually impossible for me to get a good pic, but mine is clearly a captured brass (maybe stainless?) insert in a plastic hole, no cavity or anything. Bottom part of hole is top part of case.
ETA: point of pic was to reassure poster above that mine is a sealed unit, there is no hole at the bottom of the threaded insert. And these things are awesome!!!! One of the best purchases of mine for 2014. Atpial-c 
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:52:38 PM EDT
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All sealed here....Our restricted unit also looks like this. The area IS encapsulated and you cannot see it from the outside. Come on here guys....
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:54:11 PM EDT
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Finally made it
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/dylang32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2101_zps0be00e5b.jpgb http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/dylang32/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2092_zpsc94cd93a.jpg Thanks to Vic and Kristen So you're not mad any longer? (I saw your HTF posting...) Although it was a frustraiting week of waiting all is good and TNVC took care of everything. We really took a beating for awhile..... Enjoy the unit.
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Posted: 12/27/2014 9:08:16 PM EDT
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It is virtually impossible for me to get a good pic, but mine is clearly a captured brass (maybe stainless?) insert in a plastic hole, no cavity or anything. Bottom part of hole is top part of case. ETA: point of pic was to reassure poster above that mine is a sealed unit, there is no hole at the bottom of the threaded insert. And these things are awesome!!!! One of the best purchases of mine for 2014. Atpial-c <a href="http://s235.photobucket.com/user/jtb8269/media/92E25605-4E1D-4EFA-ADCA-A4F8D8159177_zpsufm6vnjm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee27/jtb8269/92E25605-4E1D-4EFA-ADCA-A4F8D8159177_zpsufm6vnjm.jpg</a> My error. My original comment was based on exactly what your picture shows, but I interpreted the shadow as a gap between the threads and something else below. With a bright light eliminating the shadow, I can see that the threaded section extends without a gap to the "something else below", and that the insert is just a blind dead-ended threaded hole. Sorry for causing any unnecessary angst. |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 2:30:44 PM EDT
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I got a 6" 10 shot group at 100 yards in pitch darkness.
I like this stuff
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Posted: 12/30/2014 10:38:56 AM EDT
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I just got mine from the fed ex guy. Not only is this thing really nice, it's apparently also from the future.
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Posted: 12/30/2014 12:08:11 PM EDT
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I just got mine from the fed ex guy. Not only is this thing really nice, it's apparently also from the future.
<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/zuna003/media/20141230_093231.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj238/zuna003/20141230_093231.jpg</a> <a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/user/zuna003/media/20141230_093205.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj238/zuna003/20141230_093205.jpg</a> It's obviously for your future cat. Did you fire up the visible laser for him? |
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Posted: 12/30/2014 12:15:43 PM EDT
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Yeah, the cat thinks that red dot is pretty neat. Although I can see his frustration when he can never quite catch it.
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