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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:25:45 PM EDT
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Anyone know what the reticle options/adjustment differences are between the Patrol and the Hunter Mk II? The Mk II spec sheet says 3 types of reticles, while the Patrol says only basic crosshairs/clip-on mode. In addition, the Hunter Mk II specs note Calibrated MOA windage/elevation adjustments, while the Patrol doesn't say anything. I would assume it would be easy to make the software features identical between the 2 units, but perhaps differences in reticles and adjustability are intentional by IR Defense?
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Posted: 12/24/2014 10:52:54 PM EDT
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L4 G24 from Wilcox is $449.00 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/L4_G24_afr1_zpsd4234d0f.jpg Flip to the side mount is $331.66 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/FlipMount_af1_zps94a1b1b8.jpg We will be offering packages with good savings with the above mounts once we the Patrols are released. 
Vic That's what I'm talking about baby!!!! ETA- Forgot to ask, and haven't seen it answered yet: I own the 19mm 320x 30hz IR Hunter, and am very happy with it. My fault - I assumed that the battery extender shown on the IRH website, was an actual existing product that you could just slap on, and enjoy longer battery life . Apparently for the MK I units (at least) the extra battery adaptor requires the "3 battery" mode setting to be activated, which isn't currently (i) installed on the internal software or (ii) visible while scrolling through the menus. Also, the battery extender wasn't, as of the last time I checked, available for purchase. The only nit I can pick is that the "stock" Patrol unit holds one battery, and the one battery run time isn't great. Will the battery extenders, and the software adds required to run them, be available at the time these units are released? |
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Posted: 12/25/2014 4:43:05 PM EDT
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Vic, when can we see video or more pictures taken through this monocular? Will you be taking Pre-orders for them!?
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Posted: 12/25/2014 6:45:31 PM EDT
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Here is some size comparisons of a TM-14 vs. the new IR Patrol.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 7:33:23 PM EDT
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Mmmmmm. Two of those and neck pain!
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Posted: 12/25/2014 8:50:50 PM EDT
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From the pictures it does not look like a guy will be able to run the patrol and a PVS 14 side by side.
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Posted: 12/25/2014 9:37:16 PM EDT
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Is the base model made so you can add a dove tail mount later?
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Posted: 12/25/2014 10:02:30 PM EDT
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From the pictures it does not look like a guy will be able to run the patrol and a PVS 14 side by side. Anything can be made to work with the right mount(s), it just might cost you. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 12:56:40 AM EDT
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Anything can be made to work with the right mount(s), it just might cost you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From the pictures it does not look like a guy will be able to run the patrol and a PVS 14 side by side. Anything can be made to work with the right mount(s), it just might cost you. Hope this works with my ModArmory dual mount. This year is looking expensive. 
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Posted: 12/26/2014 2:27:35 AM EDT
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It appears the pvs14 would be too far away from ones eye to be used with the thermal at the same time.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 4:03:53 PM EDT
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No, they would be roughly equal, looking at the placement of the Wilcox dovetail. Most of the extra length is forward of the mount.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 5:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they would be roughly equal, looking at the placement of the Wilcox dovetail. Most of the extra length is forward of the mount. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 7:29:56 PM EDT
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Its too bad the thing weighs over a pound. The m24 and others weigh substantially less.
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Posted: 12/26/2014 7:38:38 PM EDT
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Its too bad the thing weighs over a pound. The m24 and others weigh substantially less. Yeah... but it's still pretty epic for the consumer space. For v1.0 it's an awesome unit. Looking forward to someone releasing a consumer SkeetIR. At just 9 ounces (lighter than a PVS-14) *with* a built-in IR laser AND with the ability to use it as a clip-on, helmet mounted, or a COTI, that thing is balls-out bad-ass. |
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Posted: 12/26/2014 10:56:32 PM EDT
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Yeah... but it's still pretty epic for the consumer space. For v1.0 it's an awesome unit. Looking forward to someone releasing a consumer SkeetIR. At just 9 ounces (lighter than a PVS-14) *with* a built-in IR laser AND with the ability to use it as a clip-on, helmet mounted, or a COTI, that thing is balls-out bad-ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its too bad the thing weighs over a pound. The m24 and others weigh substantially less. Yeah... but it's still pretty epic for the consumer space. For v1.0 it's an awesome unit. Looking forward to someone releasing a consumer SkeetIR. At just 9 ounces (lighter than a PVS-14) *with* a built-in IR laser AND with the ability to use it as a clip-on, helmet mounted, or a COTI, that thing is balls-out bad-ass. Yeah I waited for a SKEET IR for a while, then I got sick of waiting and bought an LWTS. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:36:23 AM EDT
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That is not what I see in the pictures to my eye. Yes the it does look longer in front of the dovetail but is also looks substantially longer than a PVS 14 behind the dovetail. That said I hope you are right but from the pictures it does not appear so. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, they would be roughly equal, looking at the placement of the Wilcox dovetail. Most of the extra length is forward of the mount. I am also thinking that the dimension at the rear is about the same. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 1:06:55 AM EDT
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Yeah... but it's still pretty epic for the consumer space. For v1.0 it's an awesome unit. Looking forward to someone releasing a consumer SkeetIR. At just 9 ounces (lighter than a PVS-14) *with* a built-in IR laser AND with the ability to use it as a clip-on, helmet mounted, or a COTI, that thing is balls-out bad-ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its too bad the thing weighs over a pound. The m24 and others weigh substantially less. Yeah... but it's still pretty epic for the consumer space. For v1.0 it's an awesome unit. Looking forward to someone releasing a consumer SkeetIR. At just 9 ounces (lighter than a PVS-14) *with* a built-in IR laser AND with the ability to use it as a clip-on, helmet mounted, or a COTI, that thing is balls-out bad-ass. I agree it is an interesting advance in many respects, lots of potential. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 12:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am also thinking that the dimension at the rear is about the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: No, they would be roughly equal, looking at the placement of the Wilcox dovetail. Most of the extra length is forward of the mount. I am also thinking that the dimension at the rear is about the same. |
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Posted: 12/27/2014 7:29:50 PM EDT
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Alright, patrol has been announced. Let's get back to some IR Hunter MK II opinions. Anyone got some of the recent batches? How ya liking it? Vic said earlier comes with video cable. this true?
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Posted: 12/29/2014 12:29:09 PM EDT
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Updated price list on Pg. 6 for the IR Patrol.
Happy New Year! |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 12:36:20 PM EDT
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I hope so, that would be fantastic, maybe my eyes are deceiving me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, they would be roughly equal, looking at the placement of the Wilcox dovetail. Most of the extra length is forward of the mount. I am also thinking that the dimension at the rear is about the same. The rear dimension while helmet mounted is approx. a 1/4" longer than a PVS-14. With the G-24 there is enough eye relief adjustments. Vic |
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:12:04 PM EDT
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Alright, patrol has been announced. Let's get back to some IR Hunter MK II opinions. Anyone got some of the recent batches? How ya liking it? Vic said earlier comes with video cable. this true? Answered your other thread asking that question. Yep it's true, we are awaiting our next batch of Rt. Angle cables to be complete and will send out to all customers who have not received them. This instead of holding up scopes not in time for Santa!
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Posted: 12/29/2014 7:58:44 PM EDT
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oh look.............and I just sold my X320
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Posted: 12/30/2014 7:05:24 PM EDT
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Yes it sure would be. 
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It would really be slick if they threaded the ocular for the future possibility of adding an extender lens.... That would be icing on the cake and it wouldn't add much if any manufacturing cost to the unit. Yes it sure would be.
Indeed, just announced the units will adapt to the AFOCAL's....We will be carrying the AFOCAL Magnifiers upon the IR Patrol's release as well. 
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Posted: 12/30/2014 7:24:24 PM EDT
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Nice!
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Posted: 12/30/2014 8:16:09 PM EDT
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Nice! +1
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Posted: 12/31/2014 12:59:31 AM EDT
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Very nice indeed! Any pricing info yet on them?
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Posted: 12/31/2014 1:30:04 AM EDT
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Very nice indeed! Any pricing info yet on them? Not as yet, pending soon on final pricing. Vic |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 2:32:07 PM EDT
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The 2x looks a little "slow" (aperture-wise) and seems to introduce modest vignetting.
The 3x looks better in both aspects, but as all optical magnifiers are wont to do some resolution / sensitivity is lost, albeit they're still better than digital magnification. |
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Posted: 12/31/2014 3:19:18 PM EDT
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I think I would opt for the 3x as long as it's not too much more expensive than the 3x was for the m18. I was disapointed though with the 3x performance on the m18, it took a serious hit on the sensitivity and performance. I found that in humid conditions it was almost unusable. If these pics are real then this 3x lens looks like it will perform well.
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Posted: 12/31/2014 3:50:34 PM EDT
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I think I would opt for the 3x as long as it's not too much more expensive than the 3x was for the m18. I was disapointed though with the 3x performance on the m18, it took a serious hit on the sensitivity and performance. I found that in humid conditions it was almost unusable. If these pics are real then this 3x lens looks like it will perform well. Brother they better be real...  They look that good!
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Posted: 12/31/2014 4:09:19 PM EDT
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I think I would opt for the 3x as long as it's not too much more expensive than the 3x was for the m18. I was disapointed though with the 3x performance on the m18, it took a serious hit on the sensitivity and performance. I found that in humid conditions it was almost unusable. If these pics are real then this 3x lens looks like it will perform well.
I was also disappointed with the 3x and the m-18. Detail really fell off, and the image was really washed out. Of course in the summer around Houston humidity stays above 90%. Image looks pretty dam good on the 3x with the patrol! |
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Posted: 1/1/2015 6:08:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is some size comparisons of a TM-14 vs. the new IR Patrol. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/TNVC-COMP-1_zps1e5d54c1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/TNVC-COMP-2_zps7a25f728.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/TNVC-COMP-3_zpsd4ec2580.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/TNVC-COMP-4_zpsbc802dda.jpg Wow. Thats pretty dang cool.
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Posted: 1/1/2015 4:35:55 PM EDT
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I was also disappointed with the 3x and the m-18. Detail really fell off, and the image was really washed out. Of course in the summer around Houston humidity stays above 90%. Image looks pretty dam good on the 3x with the patrol! Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think I would opt for the 3x as long as it's not too much more expensive than the 3x was for the m18. I was disapointed though with the 3x performance on the m18, it took a serious hit on the sensitivity and performance. I found that in humid conditions it was almost unusable. If these pics are real then this 3x lens looks like it will perform well.
I was also disappointed with the 3x and the m-18. Detail really fell off, and the image was really washed out. Of course in the summer around Houston humidity stays above 90%. Image looks pretty dam good on the 3x with the patrol! And that was just a pic! 
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Posted: 1/1/2015 11:48:11 PM EDT
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And that was just a pic!
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I think I would opt for the 3x as long as it's not too much more expensive than the 3x was for the m18. I was disapointed though with the 3x performance on the m18, it took a serious hit on the sensitivity and performance. I found that in humid conditions it was almost unusable. If these pics are real then this 3x lens looks like it will perform well.
I was also disappointed with the 3x and the m-18. Detail really fell off, and the image was really washed out. Of course in the summer around Houston humidity stays above 90%. Image looks pretty dam good on the 3x with the patrol! And that was just a pic!
Vic How about some videos then?! 
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Posted: 1/2/2015 10:07:13 PM EDT
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Amazing technology at such a price.
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Posted: 1/3/2015 2:23:35 PM EDT
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How about some videos then?! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I would opt for the 3x as long as it's not too much more expensive than the 3x was for the m18. I was disapointed though with the 3x performance on the m18, it took a serious hit on the sensitivity and performance. I found that in humid conditions it was almost unusable. If these pics are real then this 3x lens looks like it will perform well.
I was also disappointed with the 3x and the m-18. Detail really fell off, and the image was really washed out. Of course in the summer around Houston humidity stays above 90%. Image looks pretty dam good on the 3x with the patrol! And that was just a pic!
Vic How about some videos then?! Even though Vids suck at what the performance really can do...A few use Vids for marketing videos and even the low dollar units look as good as the top end ones at times..  ]I'll see what I can do.
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Posted: 1/5/2015 8:55:54 PM EDT
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Even though Vids suck at what the performance really can do...A few use Vids for marketing videos and even the low dollar units look as good as the top end ones at times.. ]I'll see what I can do. This is very true! Amazing how bad some of the uploads look compared to actual images. I think photo shack is the worst I've seen. |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:02:09 PM EDT
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It all depends on the humidity....
You need a big lens to capture more thermal emissivity to make up for higher humidity, but you lose FOV with the larger lens system. The difference in thermal view through a 640 core 35mm system compared to a 640 core 100mm system during the rain is incredible..... |
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Posted: 1/7/2015 11:17:28 AM EDT
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Is the AFOCAL magnifier the same thing as a usgi magnifier for the pvs14 or something different?
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Posted: 1/7/2015 12:29:16 PM EDT
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Its the same principle but the lens elements are different material. Germanium is used instead of glass due to the properties of the wavelengths envolved with thermal IR radiation. Glass is opaque to these wavelengths. Unfortunately germanium is very expensive so even the most basic afocal lenses start at around $1k.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 1:36:49 PM EDT
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Its the same principle but the lens elements are different material. Germanium is used instead of glass due to the properties of the wavelengths envolved with thermal IR radiation. Glass is opaque to these wavelengths. Unfortunately germanium is very expensive +1, especially this. One of the many reasons this stuff is so expensive besides the other glass properties outlined above is the huge amounts of antireflection coatings that are required because of the very high index of refraction. Our US government even designated germanium as a strategic and critical material, calling for 146 tons supply in the national defense stockpile in 1987. Maybe this is what is stored in Fort Knox! Forget the gold.
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Posted: 1/7/2015 5:11:46 PM EDT
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+1, Thermal imagers in 1987 were worth more than their weight in gold anyways during that time period. Since almost no Soviet tanks or aircraft had much thermal night vision capability compared to the thermal sights on the old M-60A3, M1, and Leopard 2A4 and Western air assets, it was expected with the thermal systems and other night vision capabilities they'd be able to take back any gains during the night if the Soviets would have made any such gains during the day in a ground war.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 1:33:47 AM EDT
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Got it, thanks for the detailed replies!
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Posted: 1/12/2015 1:38:05 PM EDT
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A few more pics from the IR Patrol I will be posting; The level of detail is something special....
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Posted: 1/12/2015 2:21:04 PM EDT
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Pre-Orders now being taken for the IR PATROLS!. See our TNVC INDUSTRY PAGE for details!
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Posted: 1/15/2015 8:30:40 AM EDT
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what about water resistance?
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Posted: 1/15/2015 3:49:21 PM EDT
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what about water resistance? thanks Sealed and purged, 1 meter for 30 minutes. Unless swimming with it, under rain conditions all will be just fine.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:42:44 PM EDT
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We want to thank Chris at IR Defense for debuting the new IR Patrol in our Shot Show booth for the first time. There was quite the crowd at most times who seemed to be very impressed with the functionality of the unit.
Units will be shipping at the end of February and we have pre-orders available at our Industry page. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 2:29:03 PM EDT
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I will be showing detailed pics of our new TNVC DVR and US Made DVR pouch and cables with the IR Patrol. We used our same sew shop that makes our popular M1A/M14 Riser Stock Pouch. Nothing is made in China and the pouch is functional with silent straps. NO cumbersome and loud Velcro and the new pouch allows viewing of our DVR screen by a simple pull down silent tension strap exposing a view screen window. Each one of our technical staff had serious input with this pouch and is not just thrown together from China. We kept the shooter in mind the whole way with this one.
We have a great video of the pouch seen here at the 9:50 mark along with some great details on the IR Patrol during this segment. 
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