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Posted: 8/7/2014 2:37:04 PM EDT
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Got mine today and can't wait to try it out! 
72lpm and no blems indicated.  Just need someone to buy my extra AR's so I can square away my laser/light situation.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 2:46:08 PM EDT
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I can hear my ITT while wearing it if its quiet enough, as well as other ones I've owned. Not true with either L3 I've had, although I got rid of the other due to the "screen door" effect not agreeing with me. It is interesting the various characteristics the same technology has when manufacturered by different companies. At one point in time I preferred ITT, but now the tide is turning. This new tube completely blew me away as well as all preconceived notions I had on what I thought I knew.
ETA: Very nice ridewaves! What laser are you scoping? I have a cheapy as of now and I'm thinking of grabbing another one with more features. |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 4:06:13 PM EDT
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I can hear my ITT while wearing it if its quiet enough, as well as other ones I've owned. Not true with either L3 I've had, although I got rid of the other due to the "screen door" effect not agreeing with me. It is interesting the various characteristics the same technology has when manufacturered by different companies. At one point in time I preferred ITT, but now the tide is turning. This new tube completely blew me away as well as all preconceived notions I had on what I thought I knew. ETA: Very nice ridewaves! What laser are you scoping? I have a cheapy as of now and I'm thinking of grabbing another one with more features. I'm stuck between the DBAL-I2 and CQBL-1. I prefer the way the DBAL looks, the QD, and the fire button placement. I see a lot of guys reporting issues with the DBAL as compared to the CQBL though. There's also the slaved lasers on the CQBL. |
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Posted: 8/7/2014 6:16:42 PM EDT
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Those are the two I'm also looking at. I've heard rumors that us civies will have more options soon though, so I'm holding out to see what Vic brings us
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Posted: 8/8/2014 1:45:35 PM EDT
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great specs Also you may consider taking the picture down and just typing your specs in i read somewhere its no-no to post a pic of the data sheet per ITAR since we have international members on these boards. If I was a dealer I would not post pics of data sheets. They error on the side of caution as they should. It is a grey area. I post pics of them from time to time. Mostly of older tubes such as SELA tubes. The specs are public information for the most part and I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for showing pics of a data sheet. Then again I never thought I would get a knock on my door for a 1970's vintage PVS-4. Ever since the agent Wu shenanigans I post very few (if any) pics of my personal gear. I post pics of things I find on the internet all the time. If it is in the public domain Wu can't ever claim I own it. All my NV gear was lost in a tragic boating accident anyhow...  Even more unfortunate is they were all attached to my guns which were lost as well. Very tragic....
I actually own a boat so it passes the smell test. 
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Posted: 8/10/2014 4:58:08 PM EDT
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Is this deal still going?
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Posted: 8/10/2014 7:31:53 PM EDT
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Is this deal still going? Not anymore but it was a hell of a deal while it lasted. My hopes is that we see it again either for either Black Friday or Christmas. After having a friends PVS-14 and my new one together I really got the itch for going for the binoculars
I would recommend keeping an eye on their website where they'll post upcoming and current deals. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:49:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/17/2014 6:37:18 PM EDT
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Not anymore but it was a hell of a deal while it lasted. My hopes is that we see it again either for either Black Friday or Christmas. After having a friends PVS-14 and my new one together I really got the itch for going for the binoculars
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Is this deal still going? Not anymore but it was a hell of a deal while it lasted. My hopes is that we see it again either for either Black Friday or Christmas. After having a friends PVS-14 and my new one together I really got the itch for going for the binoculars
I would recommend keeping an eye on their website where they'll post upcoming and current deals. Indeed is all I will say on this one. 
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Posted: 8/18/2014 9:16:49 PM EDT
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Indeed is all I will say on this one.
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Is this deal still going? Not anymore but it was a hell of a deal while it lasted. My hopes is that we see it again either for either Black Friday or Christmas. After having a friends PVS-14 and my new one together I really got the itch for going for the binoculars
I would recommend keeping an eye on their website where they'll post upcoming and current deals. Indeed is all I will say on this one.
Vic Any chance of a labor day sale? I have NV money burning a hole in my pocket. |
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Posted: 8/19/2014 2:38:15 AM EDT
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Indeed is all I will say on this one.
Vic NO.... no way man! I have to let my VISA recuperate after your last sale. |
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Posted: 8/19/2014 9:12:55 AM EDT
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Damnit, I was just getting ready to order #2
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Posted: 8/19/2014 9:22:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2014 9:34:35 AM EDT
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Damnit, I was just getting ready to order #2 Playing catch up? ....with the way you fuckers buy tubes, yes. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 11:49:57 AM EDT
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Damnit, I was just getting ready to order #2 Playing catch up? ....with the way you fuckers buy tubes, yes. Nice.... 
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Posted: 8/20/2014 12:41:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:15:33 AM EDT
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I guess yesterday wasn't your lucky day as you didn't get a 72LP. These are supposed to be Omni VIII tubes, right. Comparing your spec sheet to this post, http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/317705_.html , it looks like your specs are between Omni VI and VII. Now the spec sheet for the one shown on page 3 looks more like I'd expect for an Omni VIII. Your FOM (Figure of Merit, calculation of S/N and resolution) seems average at best and is about 15% lower than the tube whose specs are listed on page 3. The Night Enforcers being sold 3 years ago generally all had specs that were equal to and in many cases exceeded the specs of the tube who's data sheet is on page 3. I know comparing an ITT tube to an L3 tube could be called comparing apples to oranges, but if your a numbers or data sheet junkie, I would have expected more from a tube that is supposed to be Omni VIII and 3 years newer than older tubes with better average specs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This latest batch had a few more 72's than average. In regards to 72LP units, while that is a good number, there is not a drastic difference in resolution. It can be seen with slightly better details of tree branches, leaves, etc. Our big likes along with so many of our customers with our US contract L3 Mil Spec tubes is the all around performance specs themselves, they are superb, REALLY great performers. I cannot say enough how good the L3 tubes as of late are performing. Thank you to all whom have ordered, your business is greatly appreciated and never taken for granted. 
Vic Well, it looks like you guys shipped my L3 tube PVS-14 today. With some luck, maybe I'll have one of those 72LP's Received mine today and just opened it up. Haven't tried it out yet. here is the sheet. http://i58.tinypic.com/2dme0p2.jpg I guess yesterday wasn't your lucky day as you didn't get a 72LP. These are supposed to be Omni VIII tubes, right. Comparing your spec sheet to this post, http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/317705_.html , it looks like your specs are between Omni VI and VII. Now the spec sheet for the one shown on page 3 looks more like I'd expect for an Omni VIII. Your FOM (Figure of Merit, calculation of S/N and resolution) seems average at best and is about 15% lower than the tube whose specs are listed on page 3. The Night Enforcers being sold 3 years ago generally all had specs that were equal to and in many cases exceeded the specs of the tube who's data sheet is on page 3. I know comparing an ITT tube to an L3 tube could be called comparing apples to oranges, but if your a numbers or data sheet junkie, I would have expected more from a tube that is supposed to be Omni VIII and 3 years newer than older tubes with better average specs. Not sure what you mean here? I think as others have said your observations are a bit off. The tube here is a pretty darn good one. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:57:12 AM EDT
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Not sure what you mean here? I think as others have said your observations are a bit off. The tube here is a pretty darn good one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This latest batch had a few more 72's than average. In regards to 72LP units, while that is a good number, there is not a drastic difference in resolution. It can be seen with slightly better details of tree branches, leaves, etc. Our big likes along with so many of our customers with our US contract L3 Mil Spec tubes is the all around performance specs themselves, they are superb, REALLY great performers. I cannot say enough how good the L3 tubes as of late are performing. Thank you to all whom have ordered, your business is greatly appreciated and never taken for granted.
Vic Well, it looks like you guys shipped my L3 tube PVS-14 today. With some luck, maybe I'll have one of those 72LP's Received mine today and just opened it up. Haven't tried it out yet. here is the sheet. http://i58.tinypic.com/2dme0p2.jpg I guess yesterday wasn't your lucky day as you didn't get a 72LP. These are supposed to be Omni VIII tubes, right. Comparing your spec sheet to this post, http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_18/317705_.html , it looks like your specs are between Omni VI and VII. Now the spec sheet for the one shown on page 3 looks more like I'd expect for an Omni VIII. Your FOM (Figure of Merit, calculation of S/N and resolution) seems average at best and is about 15% lower than the tube whose specs are listed on page 3. The Night Enforcers being sold 3 years ago generally all had specs that were equal to and in many cases exceeded the specs of the tube who's data sheet is on page 3. I know comparing an ITT tube to an L3 tube could be called comparing apples to oranges, but if your a numbers or data sheet junkie, I would have expected more from a tube that is supposed to be Omni VIII and 3 years newer than older tubes with better average specs. Not sure what you mean here? I think as others have said your observations are a bit off. The tube here is a pretty darn good one. I was comparing the specs from the 2 data sheets that were posted to the specs posted by CJ7hawk in a post in the above mentioned thread. At the time I posted, the one guys tube did have specs that were in between Omni VI specs and Omni VII specs according to what was shown on his chart. Evidently, about 7 hours later, CJ7hawk edited that chart and the specs for Omni VIII were reduced to be similar to Omni VI specs, so yeah, if you'd compare his specs to that chart now, you could say that it does meet the level of Omni VIII. My observations were based on the specifications that were posted at that time which is why I thought it was not up to expected Omni VIII standards. But comparing it to the chart as it is now for Omni VIII, then your right, it is a good tube. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:27:46 PM EDT
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Interesting....Glad to see so many of customers have really enjoyed our units over the last few years. They are something very special indeed.
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