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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Working on this as the power supply number is not in my records. Just want you to know I see the post and am investigating. I am pretty sure what it is but I like to be 100% sure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By ncorry:
I've got one that when I remove the retaining ring and the light pipe, the part of the tube that is visible states: ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712. Any help figuring out what I've got would be appreciated. It does have manual gain and is in a PVS14 housing. Working on this as the power supply number is not in my records. Just want you to know I see the post and am investigating. I am pretty sure what it is but I like to be 100% sure. Thank you again for your dedication and assistance to this forum. |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Working on this as the power supply number is not in my records. Just want you to know I see the post and am investigating. I am pretty sure what it is but I like to be 100% sure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By ncorry:
I've got one that when I remove the retaining ring and the light pipe, the part of the tube that is visible states: ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712. Any help figuring out what I've got would be appreciated. It does have manual gain and is in a PVS14 housing. Working on this as the power supply number is not in my records. Just want you to know I see the post and am investigating. I am pretty sure what it is but I like to be 100% sure. Any update? I don't need 100% certainty, hell, I'd take your 85% sure to the bank. |
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Originally Posted By ncorry:
Any update? I don't need 100% certainty, hell, I'd take your 85% sure to the bank. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By ncorry:
I've got one that when I remove the retaining ring and the light pipe, the part of the tube that is visible states: ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712. Any help figuring out what I've got would be appreciated. It does have manual gain and is in a PVS14 housing. Working on this as the power supply number is not in my records. Just want you to know I see the post and am investigating. I am pretty sure what it is but I like to be 100% sure. Any update? I don't need 100% certainty, hell, I'd take your 85% sure to the bank. I have not given up ! I just can't find that power supply number anywhere. I will not accept defeat so I will be forced to ask for outside help (phone calls) as so far it has stumped me. I am fairly positive it is a autogated Gen 3 tube but I just can't tell you 100% until I can find info on this power supply number. A contract number would help me a great deal but we don't have one here. I have also asked my Aussie friend to help with his superior research skills. |
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I am somewhat stumped by this one also - Does it have the two-pins that connect to the pigtail, or does the pigtail disappear into the power supply itself? David Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Originally Posted By cj7hawk:
I am somewhat stumped by this one also - Does it have the two-pins that connect to the pigtail, or does the pigtail disappear into the power supply itself? David Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote I have no idea. How far apart do I need to take it to find out? Dino- it was sold as a Gen III autogated with manual gain. It does have manual gain. As for autogated or not, it has zero audible whine to it. |
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Originally Posted By ncorry:
I have no idea. How far apart do I need to take it to find out? Dino- it was sold as a Gen III autogated with manual gain. It does have manual gain. As for autogated or not, it has zero audible whine to it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By cj7hawk:
I am somewhat stumped by this one also - Does it have the two-pins that connect to the pigtail, or does the pigtail disappear into the power supply itself? David Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have no idea. How far apart do I need to take it to find out? Dino- it was sold as a Gen III autogated with manual gain. It does have manual gain. As for autogated or not, it has zero audible whine to it. Can you post a pic of the top of the tube where the pigtail goes into it ? The lack of audible whine is not always telling. Give me some pics of the pigtail and where it goes into the top of the tube. |
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Originally Posted By RooAR15:
Great thread! Any knowledge on this one? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gxYAAOSwNSxU~sqq/$_57.JPG http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/KbIAAOSwpDdU~sqp/$_57.JPG Would this be an improvement over a Gen2+ mx10160 tube? View Quote Well, it is a Gen 3 tube and not gated. Looks like a export tube and as I have no idea what the specs were limited to for that export tube I can't really tell a great deal. Depending on who made and what kind of Gen 2+ tube you have it may or may not be better. Not enough info here for me to tell you much more. Your gen 3 is probably Omni III to IV performance but that is a educated guess. Some pics at night through both of your tubes would tell me a little more to judge. The "SE" in front of the NSN number tells me your tube was sold to Sweden if that helps you any. |
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Originally Posted By ncorry:
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m548/ncorry/Tube%20Pic%202.jpg http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m548/ncorry/Tube%20Pic%204.jpg Do these help? That was as far as I could get the tube to come out without using something to pry on it, which I didn't really want to do. If I need to pull farther, or if I am completely taking pics of the wrong place, just let me know. Again, that you and CJ for all of your assistance and for freely sharing your knowledge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By cj7hawk:
I am somewhat stumped by this one also - Does it have the two-pins that connect to the pigtail, or does the pigtail disappear into the power supply itself? David Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have no idea. How far apart do I need to take it to find out? Dino- it was sold as a Gen III autogated with manual gain. It does have manual gain. As for autogated or not, it has zero audible whine to it. Can you post a pic of the top of the tube where the pigtail goes into it ? The lack of audible whine is not always telling. Give me some pics of the pigtail and where it goes into the top of the tube. http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m548/ncorry/Tube%20Pic%202.jpg http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m548/ncorry/Tube%20Pic%204.jpg Do these help? That was as far as I could get the tube to come out without using something to pry on it, which I didn't really want to do. If I need to pull farther, or if I am completely taking pics of the wrong place, just let me know. Again, that you and CJ for all of your assistance and for freely sharing your knowledge. I got some emails out to get this settled. If these guys don't know I am just going to have to go with my educated guess which was a autogated Pinnacle with Omni VI to VII performance. Possibly a milspec tube someone has peeled the label off of. I sent this out to the best folks I know so I will wait for a response. We shall see if I am right or wrong. |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
I got some emails out to get this settled. If these guys don't know I am just going to have to go with my educated guess which was a autogated Pinnacle with Omni VI to VII performance. Possibly a milspec tube someone has peeled the label off of. I sent this out to the best folks I know so I will wait for a response. We shall see if I am right or wrong. View Quote I hope you're right. I'll take VI to VII. I've got an ITT OPMOD with a decent spec sheet (SNR 26.6, .92 Halo, 2065 Lum) and it has a slightly brighter tube, but it whines audibly. This one doesn't give anything up to the OPMOD in the field, and I can't hear this one whine pressed against my ear. Oh, and again, thank you very much. |
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Welcome Ncorry. Heck, at this point I want to know as bad as you do. Pisses me off when a simple tube stumps me.
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Originally Posted By ncorry:
I hope you're right. I'll take VI to VII. I've got an ITT OPMOD with a decent spec sheet (SNR 26.6, .92 Halo, 2065 Lum) and it has a slightly brighter tube, but it whines audibly. This one doesn't give anything up to the OPMOD in the field, and I can't hear this one whine pressed against my ear. Oh, and again, thank you very much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
I got some emails out to get this settled. If these guys don't know I am just going to have to go with my educated guess which was a autogated Pinnacle with Omni VI to VII performance. Possibly a milspec tube someone has peeled the label off of. I sent this out to the best folks I know so I will wait for a response. We shall see if I am right or wrong. I hope you're right. I'll take VI to VII. I've got an ITT OPMOD with a decent spec sheet (SNR 26.6, .92 Halo, 2065 Lum) and it has a slightly brighter tube, but it whines audibly. This one doesn't give anything up to the OPMOD in the field, and I can't hear this one whine pressed against my ear. Oh, and again, thank you very much. Here is what Ed told me with some personal stuff edited out. He is my go to expert when all else fails. I was right but Ed confirmed my thoughts. I really was only 95% sure. Below is what Ed told me with minor editing. " Tube Actions Edward R. Wilcox Jr. Hello Dean, The power supply you have is an autogated power supply used in Pinnacle tubes. It was made shortly after ITT purchased K&M so they kept the K&M Model numbering convention placed after "ITT" until they devised their own with a new design. The power supply was made in the third week of February 2012. Prior K&M autogated power supplies used this three section numbering while using only two sections for DC tubes, example being K&M 272069-8 " Translated your tube is most likely Omni VI to VII and is autogated.We don't have a spec sheet for your tube so I am estimating Omni performance based on time of production. ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712 |
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Originally Posted By Jippo:
Bunch of these Litton mx10160 have been available in Europe lately. From what I can gather, I think they are ex UK MOD surplus tubes. Do you have any additional info on these. I had a look through one and it seemed ok, but had a rather dark image. They are reasonably priced for the European market. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Jippo01/LittonMX10160_zpsc0da3786.jpg View Quote Jippo I am sorry I missed this one ! It is a export tube so it is most likely under 1600 FOM but is Gen 3. Maybe Omni IV and not a gated tube. These export tubes are really tough as I don't have any info on the contracts with outside governments. |
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the "99" in the nsn no. refers to it being a uk tube and the 8e or se in front of the number - could be refering to the batch for export as its outside the nsn number
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Originally Posted By johnelot:
the "99" in the nsn no. refers to it being a uk tube and the 8e or se in front of the number - could be refering to the batch for export as its outside the nsn number View Quote The documents I have with the NSN numbers such as SE in front of 5855 denotes the country it was sold to. I don't know all about this yet I as I still studying up on all these export tubes. I will post a link as soon as I find it again. I don't know what 8E is yet as I read GB should be in front for a UK sold tube. I could have this all wrong though. I can spot export tubes though so that is a plus ! 99 is UK though. I am still learning on decoding these export tubes... |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Here is what Ed told me with some personal stuff edited out. He is my go to expert when all else fails. I was right but Ed confirmed my thoughts. I really was only 95% sure. Below is what Ed told me with minor editing. Edward R. Wilcox Jr. Hello Dean, The power supply you have is an autogated power supply used in Pinnacle tubes. It was made shortly after ITT purchased K&M so they kept the K&M Model numbering convention placed after "ITT" until they devised their own with a new design. The power supply was made in the third week of February 2012. Prior K&M autogated power supplies used this three section numbering while using only two sections for DC tubes, example being K&M 272069-8 " Translated your tube is most likely Omni VI to VII and is autogated.We don't have a spec sheet for your tube so I am estimating Omni performance based on time of production. ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712 View Quote Dino- man, you sure come through. Thank you very, very much. It is truly appreciated. |
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Originally Posted By ncorry:
Dino- man, you sure come through. Thank you very, very much. It is truly appreciated. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Here is what Ed told me with some personal stuff edited out. He is my go to expert when all else fails. I was right but Ed confirmed my thoughts. I really was only 95% sure. Below is what Ed told me with minor editing. Edward R. Wilcox Jr. Hello Dean, The power supply you have is an autogated power supply used in Pinnacle tubes. It was made shortly after ITT purchased K&M so they kept the K&M Model numbering convention placed after "ITT" until they devised their own with a new design. The power supply was made in the third week of February 2012. Prior K&M autogated power supplies used this three section numbering while using only two sections for DC tubes, example being K&M 272069-8 " Translated your tube is most likely Omni VI to VII and is autogated.We don't have a spec sheet for your tube so I am estimating Omni performance based on time of production. ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712 Dino- man, you sure come through. Thank you very, very much. It is truly appreciated. Glad I could help. I updated my power supply list so we don't go through this again ! |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Glad I could help. I updated my power supply list so we don't go through this again ! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By ncorry:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Here is what Ed told me with some personal stuff edited out. He is my go to expert when all else fails. I was right but Ed confirmed my thoughts. I really was only 95% sure. Below is what Ed told me with minor editing. Edward R. Wilcox Jr. Hello Dean, The power supply you have is an autogated power supply used in Pinnacle tubes. It was made shortly after ITT purchased K&M so they kept the K&M Model numbering convention placed after "ITT" until they devised their own with a new design. The power supply was made in the third week of February 2012. Prior K&M autogated power supplies used this three section numbering while using only two sections for DC tubes, example being K&M 272069-8 " Translated your tube is most likely Omni VI to VII and is autogated.We don't have a spec sheet for your tube so I am estimating Omni performance based on time of production. ITT 282867-9-031 S/N 209623 DC0712 Don't know if you keep track of such things, but that tube was purchased in a single AA housing PVS14 from AE Optics. Now that I think about it, I don't know if that information would've been helpful two weeks ago.... Dino- man, you sure come through. Thank you very, very much. It is truly appreciated. Glad I could help. I updated my power supply list so we don't go through this again ! Don't know if you keep track of such things, but that tube was purchased in a single AA housing PVS14 from AE Optics. Now that I think about it, I don't know if that information would've been helpful two weeks ago.... |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Jippo I am sorry I missed this one ! It is a export tube so it is most likely under 1600 FOM but is Gen 3. Maybe Omni IV and not a gated tube. These export tubes are really tough as I don't have any info on the contracts with outside governments. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By Jippo:
Bunch of these Litton mx10160 have been available in Europe lately. From what I can gather, I think they are ex UK MOD surplus tubes. Do you have any additional info on these. I had a look through one and it seemed ok, but had a rather dark image. They are reasonably priced for the European market. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Jippo01/LittonMX10160_zpsc0da3786.jpg Jippo I am sorry I missed this one ! It is a export tube so it is most likely under 1600 FOM but is Gen 3. Maybe Omni IV and not a gated tube. These export tubes are really tough as I don't have any info on the contracts with outside governments. No problem Dino! I took a bit of plunge with one of these, and it was worth it. If I had to pick a guess, I'd wager you estimatd the specs just about right. Your knowledge and willingness in helping us amateurs is much appreciated. |
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Originally Posted By RooAR15:
Here's the one in my new N-14. Armasight said it's a Photonis but how do I tell? There are no markings other than the Serial number. http://s7.postimg.org/r939oftuj/IMG_4550.jpg View Quote It looks like a Photonis as the Rooskie tubes I have seen don't look like that. They are probably Photonis tubes that failed milspec and they removed all markings except serial number. Maybe because they are selling them cheaply they don't want the Photonis name on them. Not a Russian tube though. |
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That's great news! Thanks for the reply. And that makes sense about them removing markings due to the tubes being sub standard. It has one pretty large blem and several very tiny almost invisible pin prick blems. Other than that it's a good tube and I'm very pleased with its light gathering capability.
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they might have used their own serial number as it is not in the usual style photonis use
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so what exactly is the difference between an ITT PINNACLE and an ITT ULTRA tube?
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Originally Posted By Freedom556:
so what exactly is the difference between an ITT PINNACLE and an ITT ULTRA tube? View Quote Pinnacle tubes are gated and thin filmed. The older Ultra tubes were not gated and regular filmed. A common ITT "Ultra" tube is the MX-10160A Omni IV Anvis tube. Most folks don't use the term Ultra tube in common talk about tubes though. It was just what ITT labeled their tube. |
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View Quote Show me pics of top and bottom of tube. Probably early Gen 3 with Omni 1 or 2 performance. |
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Album link: http://imgur.com/a/uHfVE
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View Quote The year of these ITT Gen 3 tubes is 1990 so I think they are OMNI III. I think the resolution should be 50+ and S/N 19+. |
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View Quote In 1990 (when these tubes were made) the US just started making Omni III tubes. I assume these are export tubes and perform lower. They are Gen 3 but as I said performance would be in the Omni I to II range. Not the latest and greatest but should allow you to see in the dark fairly well. |
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Thanks for the answer, much appreciated!
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ITT 273358-35 S/N 121600898 10160 tube in an AVS9, thanks!
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Originally Posted By tiger502:
ITT 273358-35 S/N 121600898 10160 tube in an AVS9, thanks! View Quote ITT MX-10160C autogated Anvis tube. Tube is milspec and they are very nice tubes. Aviation tubes are some of the best and perform great. ETA: You made my day as this is a easy one. Usually they give me some obscure tube from Somalia to decipher. |
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
ITT MX-10160C autogated Anvis tube. Tube is milspec and they are very nice tubes. Aviation tubes are some of the best and perform great. ETA: You made my day as this is a easy one. Usually they give me some obscure tube from Somalia to decipher. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dino1130:
Originally Posted By tiger502:
ITT 273358-35 S/N 121600898 10160 tube in an AVS9, thanks! ITT MX-10160C autogated Anvis tube. Tube is milspec and they are very nice tubes. Aviation tubes are some of the best and perform great. ETA: You made my day as this is a easy one. Usually they give me some obscure tube from Somalia to decipher. Thank you very much Dino! I will get a Thales Lucie googles next week and may post the tube here ask for its detail. |
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Okay what do i have here?
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Originally Posted By Freedom556:
Okay what do i have here? <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/morningstar333/media/20150417_132209.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/morningstar333/20150417_132209.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/morningstar333/media/20150417_132221.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/morningstar333/20150417_132221.jpg</a> Dino? View Quote My records tell me Omni VI. Strange the contract number is missing but the serial number is intact. ITT milspec Gen 3 autogated. |
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would it have the thin film? What exactly makes a tube a "pinnacle"?
also... should I worry about the diopter being off since I took the ocular off to look at the tube? I don't see any change from before I took it off. Anything I need to look for or worry about? |
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Originally Posted By Freedom556:
would it have the thin film? What exactly makes a tube a "pinnacle"? also... should I worry about the diopter being off since I took the ocular off to look at the tube? I don't see any change from before I took it off. Anything I need to look for or worry about? View Quote This thread is for tube identification and I don't want to muddy it with general NV questions. That said Pinnacle tubes are just a ITT brand name. All Pinnacle tubes are thin filmed and gated. Please ask the rest in the general NV forum. |
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ITT Omni VI autogated Pinnacle. Milspec tubes don't come with data sheets as they are guaranteed to meet the contract specs and usually perform higher. If the tube is used 2K is a lot to pay IMHO. I think value is $1300 to $1500 for a used one. Nice tube but I would not pay 2K.
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Interesting..... The guy saif it was a litton tube. Guess he was wrong. Thanks so much!
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Originally Posted By Dino1130:
ITT Omni VI autogated Pinnacle. Milspec tubes don't come with data sheets as they are guaranteed to meet the contract specs and usually perform higher. If the tube is used 2K is a lot to pay IMHO. I think value is $1300 to $1500 for a used one. Nice tube but I would not pay 2K. View Quote Are you referring to just the tube? He was asking 2k for the entire pvs14. Just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. |
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Originally Posted By stevis182:
Are you referring to just the tube? He was asking 2k for the entire pvs14. Just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stevis182:
Originally Posted By Dino1130:
ITT Omni VI autogated Pinnacle. Milspec tubes don't come with data sheets as they are guaranteed to meet the contract specs and usually perform higher. If the tube is used 2K is a lot to pay IMHO. I think value is $1300 to $1500 for a used one. Nice tube but I would not pay 2K. Are you referring to just the tube? He was asking 2k for the entire pvs14. Just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. If it is a complete PVS-14 then 2K is a fair deal. MFR code 13567 is the cage code for ITT |
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Okay what do i have here?
<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/morningstar333/media/20150417_132209.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/morningstar333/20150417_132209.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/morningstar333/media/20150417_132221.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/morningstar333/20150417_132221.jpg</a> Dino? View Quote |
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nevermind
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RooAR15, have you already found David's great site at http://aunv.blackice.com.au/cgi-bin/nightvision/forum?index=discussions&story=omni ?
It lists ITT 9800P as follows: Tube F9800P Contract Omni IV lp/mm 64 uA/lm 1800 @830 190 @880 80 SNR 21 Gain 40000-70000 FOM 1344 Halo 2,5 MTF25 38 BLR 12 FOM 1600 max |
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Originally Posted By gungrass:
Can anyone tell me about my tube ? I've been trying to check to see what it is all I can tell is it has itt on it . <a href="http://s813.photobucket.com/user/Hatefuldrug/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz57/Hatefuldrug/Mobile%20Uploads/image_5.jpg</a> Sorry the pics not the best View Quote Hard for me to read the numbers. Can you just type them out for me ? |
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