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Posted: 12/31/2014 11:27:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: loco_engineer]
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Posted: 1/1/2015 10:37:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/1/2015 10:43:30 PM EDT
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Whats that handle in the case?
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Posted: 1/1/2015 11:12:22 PM EDT
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Game call
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Posted: 1/2/2015 12:27:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TannerB:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/qmjQDL" target="_blank">https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7492/15982568030_3feb749e3e_c.jpg</a>20141228_162642_1 by tb5252, on Flickr You out with Eric tonight? |
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Posted: 1/2/2015 2:02:09 AM EDT
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I don't know Eric lol
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Posted: 1/6/2015 9:15:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2015 10:13:25 PM EDT
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Got a WML on my rifle. The Cherokee laser and WML work together quite well.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 1:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
It's no competition for everyone's "fresh off the truck" ATPIAL-C's - but just picked up a LaserMax UNI-IR - Read all the comparisons and reviews between the Crimson Trace unit and the LaserMax, but figured that tucking it behind an M3X would mitigate many of the complaints associated with it - and it seems to work pretty well - mounted like this, I can use the KAC VFG as a handstop, and wrap my hand around the rail "C-clamp" style, and toggle the switch up and down as needed. Tucked away as it is, it's pretty well protected and unobtrusive - and the whole "stacked" combination still doesn't stick out as far a Millennium-series Surefire. No illuminator, of course, but at $120, it seems like a decent enough little unit, and with a SF X300V stacked instead of an M3X, might make a decent low-cost alternative to the X400V. Not perfect or pretty, but initial impressions seem to indicate that it should do pretty well as a stop-gap/backup/loaner laser. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/63DABFC2-5DAC-4FF2-8266-B49DDAC53AED_zps7kuod4m5.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/8F502AC9-BF29-4382-BD71-CA3E4AD21E9C_zpsc5dw9oux.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DEDDCE31-405F-4BFC-9F0E-97383A81659E_zpsim6me7cm.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/A52A397F-004F-4DA7-A1BF-B2C6B36DC64E_zpsyx0dbo8x.jpg ~Augee I have the Unimax as well, with an Inforce WML that has white light and IR in the same package. I also have the TLR-1 IR. Either of those will put an illuminator on your rig with very small real estate if you replace the light you have now. The WML and TLR-1 aren't good for 600 yards, but my thought is to do the Uni on top rail and Inforce/TLR on one side. This illuminates fine for close work. Have a mount on the opposing side where you can throw a monster visible light or monster IR illuminator on with a QD mount at those times when you need to reach out and touch someone. You can also swap the heads on a Surefire. 
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Posted: 1/17/2015 1:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yetti78:
I have the Unimax as well, with an Inforce WML that has white light and IR in the same package. I also have the TLR-1 IR. Either of those will put an illuminator on your rig with very small real estate if you replace the light you have now. The WML and TLR-1 aren't good for 600 yards, but my thought is to do the Uni on top rail and Inforce/TLR on one side. This illuminates fine for close work. Have a mount on the opposing side where you can throw a monster visible light or monster IR illuminator on with a QD mount at those times when you need to reach out and touch someone. You can also swap the heads on a Surefire. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yetti78:
Originally Posted By Augee:
It's no competition for everyone's "fresh off the truck" ATPIAL-C's - but just picked up a LaserMax UNI-IR - Read all the comparisons and reviews between the Crimson Trace unit and the LaserMax, but figured that tucking it behind an M3X would mitigate many of the complaints associated with it - and it seems to work pretty well - mounted like this, I can use the KAC VFG as a handstop, and wrap my hand around the rail "C-clamp" style, and toggle the switch up and down as needed. Tucked away as it is, it's pretty well protected and unobtrusive - and the whole "stacked" combination still doesn't stick out as far a Millennium-series Surefire. No illuminator, of course, but at $120, it seems like a decent enough little unit, and with a SF X300V stacked instead of an M3X, might make a decent low-cost alternative to the X400V. Not perfect or pretty, but initial impressions seem to indicate that it should do pretty well as a stop-gap/backup/loaner laser. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/63DABFC2-5DAC-4FF2-8266-B49DDAC53AED_zps7kuod4m5.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/8F502AC9-BF29-4382-BD71-CA3E4AD21E9C_zpsc5dw9oux.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DEDDCE31-405F-4BFC-9F0E-97383A81659E_zpsim6me7cm.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/A52A397F-004F-4DA7-A1BF-B2C6B36DC64E_zpsyx0dbo8x.jpg ~Augee I have the Unimax as well, with an Inforce WML that has white light and IR in the same package. I also have the TLR-1 IR. Either of those will put an illuminator on your rig with very small real estate if you replace the light you have now. The WML and TLR-1 aren't good for 600 yards, but my thought is to do the Uni on top rail and Inforce/TLR on one side. This illuminates fine for close work. Have a mount on the opposing side where you can throw a monster visible light or monster IR illuminator on with a QD mount at those times when you need to reach out and touch someone. You can also swap the heads on a Surefire. Most of the ir lights out are no good at 600 yards. I think the really difficult area is that 150-200 on poor illumination nights. The WML is really good for the closer in stuff especially dark rooms that most outside light is blocked out. A wml is great for something like a pole barn or morton shed at night with night vision. The moon/stars are blocked out and you are gonna get so much splash and bounce back from stronger surefires etc the wml is soft enough that you get good illumination with out making it overkill. For the 600 yard piece I have a tac IR from streamlight that is surprisingly good for the cost of about 110 bucks. Other options like the TNVC torch are also very good but cost about twice as much. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 1:55:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: yetti78]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickforney:
Most of the ir lights out are no good at 600 yards. I think the really difficult area is that 150-200 on poor illumination nights. The WML is really good for the closer in stuff especially dark rooms that most outside light is blocked out. A wml is great for something like a pole barn or morton shed at night with night vision. The moon/stars are blocked out and you are gonna get so much splash and bounce back from stronger surefires etc the wml is soft enough that you get good illumination with out making it overkill. For the 600 yard piece I have a tac IR from streamlight that is surprisingly good for the cost of about 110 bucks. Other options like the TNVC torch are also very good but cost about twice as much. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickforney:
Originally Posted By yetti78:
Originally Posted By Augee:
It's no competition for everyone's "fresh off the truck" ATPIAL-C's - but just picked up a LaserMax UNI-IR - Read all the comparisons and reviews between the Crimson Trace unit and the LaserMax, but figured that tucking it behind an M3X would mitigate many of the complaints associated with it - and it seems to work pretty well - mounted like this, I can use the KAC VFG as a handstop, and wrap my hand around the rail "C-clamp" style, and toggle the switch up and down as needed. Tucked away as it is, it's pretty well protected and unobtrusive - and the whole "stacked" combination still doesn't stick out as far a Millennium-series Surefire. No illuminator, of course, but at $120, it seems like a decent enough little unit, and with a SF X300V stacked instead of an M3X, might make a decent low-cost alternative to the X400V. Not perfect or pretty, but initial impressions seem to indicate that it should do pretty well as a stop-gap/backup/loaner laser. http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/63DABFC2-5DAC-4FF2-8266-B49DDAC53AED_zps7kuod4m5.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/8F502AC9-BF29-4382-BD71-CA3E4AD21E9C_zpsc5dw9oux.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/DEDDCE31-405F-4BFC-9F0E-97383A81659E_zpsim6me7cm.jpg http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/augeekim/A52A397F-004F-4DA7-A1BF-B2C6B36DC64E_zpsyx0dbo8x.jpg ~Augee I have the Unimax as well, with an Inforce WML that has white light and IR in the same package. I also have the TLR-1 IR. Either of those will put an illuminator on your rig with very small real estate if you replace the light you have now. The WML and TLR-1 aren't good for 600 yards, but my thought is to do the Uni on top rail and Inforce/TLR on one side. This illuminates fine for close work. Have a mount on the opposing side where you can throw a monster visible light or monster IR illuminator on with a QD mount at those times when you need to reach out and touch someone. You can also swap the heads on a Surefire. Most of the ir lights out are no good at 600 yards. I think the really difficult area is that 150-200 on poor illumination nights. The WML is really good for the closer in stuff especially dark rooms that most outside light is blocked out. A wml is great for something like a pole barn or morton shed at night with night vision. The moon/stars are blocked out and you are gonna get so much splash and bounce back from stronger surefires etc the wml is soft enough that you get good illumination with out making it overkill. For the 600 yard piece I have a tac IR from streamlight that is surprisingly good for the cost of about 110 bucks. Other options like the TNVC torch are also very good but cost about twice as much. Word. The Surefire comment was merely to illustrate that rather than running a WML, and then swapping a visible and IR monster back and forth onto the same real estate depending if you're going long throw in vis or IR, you could just swap vis and IR heads and leave the same body mounted. Leave the tape switch alone, no need to carry two lights, etc. I'm actually looking into a package that will let me do that; who knows if it exists with good performance in both spectrums. Anyone have suggestions on that? ETA Optics Planet has the Streamlight Tac Ir for like $80. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 2:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yetti78:
Word. The Surefire comment was merely to illustrate that rather than running a WML, and then swapping a visible and IR monster back and forth onto the same real estate depending if you're going long throw in vis or IR, you could just swap vis and IR heads and leave the same body mounted. Leave the tape switch alone, no need to carry two lights, etc. I'm actually looking into a package that will let me do that; who knows if it exists with good performance in both spectrums. Anyone have suggestions on that? ETA Optics Planet has the Streamlight Tac Ir for like $80. Torch Pro head on a surefire 6P? |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yetti78:
Word. The Surefire comment was merely to illustrate that rather than running a WML, and then swapping a visible and IR monster back and forth onto the same real estate depending if you're going long throw in vis or IR, you could just swap vis and IR heads and leave the same body mounted. Leave the tape switch alone, no need to carry two lights, etc. I'm actually looking into a package that will let me do that; who knows if it exists with good performance in both spectrums. Anyone have suggestions on that? ETA Optics Planet has the Streamlight Tac Ir for like $80. Why don't you just use a vampire head for your surefire giving you both ir and white light? I really like the m300v with cqbl on fusion mount. I can use it for white or ir if I need to but to be honest it is generally on ir. I don't understand the need to have two heads. 
are you sure optics planet actually has them in stock. They have been notorious for me to have a better price but then never get them back in stock. I was under the impression the tac ir's were semi discontinued for a while and were becoming harder to find but they have remained on amazon. 
My son says he doesn't need no weapons mounted ir he just follows his trace. Kids old school. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 9:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickforney:
Why don't you just use a vampire head for your surefire giving you both ir and white light? I really like the m300v with cqbl on fusion mount. I can use it for white or ir if I need to but to be honest it is generally on ir. I don't understand the need to have two heads. Does the m300v offer longer range illumination in both ir and vis? 200+ yards? Pic thread: 
X400v will be ordered shortly, Lasermax IR and TLR-1 IR will do for now. |
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Posted: 1/17/2015 9:52:27 PM EDT
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I'll check what illumination conditions are like tomorrow and try to get out to the range. I was planning on doing that anyway at some point but I need to borrow my buddies ipad pvs14 mount and his tnvc torch because I wanted to be able to compare and contrast. Really tough to compare things so I figured I would bring a couple out on the same night and try and get compare and contrast pictures or vids.
here is the ar pistol upper that is pretty much worthless now since the sig brace is no longer cool. My state can't have SBR's so I guess its a big fuck you to me. |
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Posted: 1/19/2015 9:37:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmedFerret]
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Le sigh.
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Posted: 1/20/2015 12:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Le sigh. I saw your earlier, and the Torch + Surefire is THE solution, but probably $500+. I'm just continuing to investigate to see if there's anything less expensive that will be close in performance to the suggestion. |
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Posted: 1/20/2015 12:56:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yetti78:
I saw your earlier, and the Torch + Surefire is THE solution, but probably $500+. I'm just continuing to investigate to see if there's anything less expensive that will be close in performance to the suggestion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yetti78:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Le sigh. I saw your earlier, and the Torch + Surefire is THE solution, but probably $500+. I'm just continuing to investigate to see if there's anything less expensive that will be close in performance to the suggestion. i wasn't commenting on that. edited a post.
do what works for you. everyone's got suggestions. i ain't offended if mine isn't ideal for someone else's given situation.
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Posted: 1/22/2015 7:20:51 PM EDT
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ATPIAL-C kit:
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:59:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2015 3:23:49 AM EDT
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SOPMOD Heavy and SOPMOD Light:
Still not sure where the UNI-IR is going to "live" - or whether I want to keep the ATPIAL and WMX200 "primarily" on the 10.3" or 14.5". The WMX200 does make a great companion to the ATPIAL, though... it's almost as though they were designed to work together. 
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Posted: 1/29/2015 3:10:23 PM EDT
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Here is my setup
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Posted: 1/29/2015 7:15:14 PM EDT
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Fianlly all the ATPIAL's can come out of the closet since Wu won't be able to tell the difference.
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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:14:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/2/2015 7:01:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2015 5:32:13 PM EDT
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"shoat 'n sweet"
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Posted: 2/4/2015 1:44:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RamblinWreck:
"shoat 'n sweet" http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/loftusj/ATPIAL-C/P1000759_zps5b4e609b.jpg Is your mancave located in Manville? |
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Posted: 2/4/2015 11:05:11 AM EDT
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Is your mancave located in Manville? LOL, I just noticed that in his photo. 
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Posted: 2/4/2015 1:20:24 PM EDT
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Cheap insulation for the basement. Not exactly code... but at least I stay warm when reloading or tinkering.
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:23:37 PM EDT
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Spikes Tactical 300blk Compressor RAPTAR Lite ES ELCAN Specter DR Trijicon RMR |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:46:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FOXHOUND_USMC:
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/foxhoundmarine/20150206_161054.jpg Spikes Tactical 300blk Compressor RAPTAR Lite ES ELCAN Specter DR Trijicon RMR so much…..stuff |
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FOXHOUND_USMC:
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/foxhoundmarine/20150206_161054.jpg Spikes Tactical 300blk Compressor RAPTAR Lite ES ELCAN Specter DR Trijicon RMR Was your intention to make it as heavy as possible? 
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Posted: 2/6/2015 5:56:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
so much…..stuff Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Originally Posted By FOXHOUND_USMC:
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j426/foxhoundmarine/20150206_161054.jpg Spikes Tactical 300blk Compressor RAPTAR Lite ES ELCAN Specter DR Trijicon RMR so much…..stuff Tacticality. |
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Posted: 2/15/2015 10:46:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2015 5:48:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:07:54 PM EDT
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WTF????
Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! "The LOD investigating officer has ruled your total blindness is not in line of duty-due to your own misconduct. " |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:15:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! As clean as that guy's gear and weapon are, I'm going with either a model just wearing/holding the shit for a photoshoot, or he's an airsof--erm, sorry...."milsim enthusiast". |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
"The LOD investigating officer has ruled your total blindness is not in line of duty-due to your own misconduct. " Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! "The LOD investigating officer has ruled your total blindness is not in line of duty-due to your own misconduct. " Must be those new LIF shades! 
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:44:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SkyPup]
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Dude is a US Marine at Camp Pendlelton.... shit happens, at least he can't see the laser beam if it is on!
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Posted: 2/19/2015 9:03:18 PM EDT
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At least I got ATPIAL-C mounted right!
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Posted: 2/19/2015 10:43:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC:
Must be those new LIF shades!
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! "The LOD investigating officer has ruled your total blindness is not in line of duty-due to your own misconduct. " Must be those new LIF shades!
Maybe an Arrow with "FORWARD TOWARDS ENEMY" decal on the PEQ would be a good idea, I'm sure Claymores' have a decal like that on them?
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Posted: 2/20/2015 2:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! That's a PEQ-16 so fortunately the worst he'll get is 125 lumens of white light in his face. That's assuming he's right handed. If he's left handed, then yeah, not so good. I'm not even sure why he's got it mounted on the top rail. Normally, when you're running a M203 with the leaf sight, the PEQ's are mounted on the side rail. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 2:31:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! 
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Posted: 2/20/2015 2:44:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkyPup:
WTF????
http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ2.jpg http://www.phossil.com/thom/Night%20Vision/ATPIAL/PEQ.jpg Dude is in for major problems when he turns on his PEQ-15! Remind me to keep the claymores away from this guy. Looks like a staged promotional photo. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 4:35:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2015 5:49:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2015 11:34:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BROvet04]
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M4 with MI Piston rail, osprey piston system, T1 Micro, PEQ Class 1 IR, magpul stock, AFG and vampire surfire on the other side. Rest of it is a M&P 15 stripped lower with a no name parts kit, cheap upper from the EE and Bushmaster M4 Barrel with a extended FH.
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Posted: 3/3/2015 11:53:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Augee]
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Crappy iPhone video through the AB NightVision MOD-3 of my buddy shooting my M4A1 CQBR SOPMOD Block II clone -
The laser is a LaserMax UNI-IR, and the video was taken by holding the iPhone up to the monocular. ~Augee |
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Posted: 3/3/2015 11:55:50 PM EDT
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