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Posted: 11/27/2013 12:07:56 PM EDT
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That's pretty awesome.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/27/2013 12:40:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UTCenturion:
Brugger and Thomet TP9 SBR and LDI DBAL I2 <a href="http://s120.photobucket.com/user/UTCenturion/media/IMG_20131120_215223_022.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o189/UTCenturion/IMG_20131120_215223_022.jpg</a> <a href="http://s120.photobucket.com/user/UTCenturion/media/IMG_20131120_214755_301-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o189/UTCenturion/IMG_20131120_214755_301-1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s120.photobucket.com/user/UTCenturion/media/IMG_20131120_214819_746-2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o189/UTCenturion/IMG_20131120_214819_746-2.jpg</a> <a href="http://s120.photobucket.com/user/UTCenturion/media/IMG_20131120_214903_066.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o189/UTCenturion/IMG_20131120_214903_066.jpg</a> <a href="http://s120.photobucket.com/user/UTCenturion/media/IMG_20131120_220017_410.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o189/UTCenturion/IMG_20131120_220017_410.jpg</a> NICE! Thank you for sharing!! |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 6:11:53 PM EDT
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I think I finally used all available rail space for practical uses, might have to go back to the Block II CQBR setup I had before just to make everything fit...
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2013 1:27:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nf9648:
I think I finally used all available rail space for practical uses, might have to go back to the Block II CQBR setup I had before just to make everything fit... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/Guns/IMG_0375_zpse91de077.jpg Outstanding! |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:46:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:54:57 PM EDT
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I like your style. My Crimson Trace IR just came in today,
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2013 8:50:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2013 3:11:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joethe33:
Deal with it, nerd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joethe33:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Guys, let's keep it on topic. Let's also please avoid posting pictures of weapon setups that aren't yours unless its to further discussion of a particular layout or device. Deal with it, nerd. Seriously? This is exactly what ISN"T needed here. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2013 12:52:44 PM EDT
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Same laser....
Now I feel like I need two lasers; 1 for the Scar and states where suppressors are legal, and another for the AR and non-suppressor states (primary shooting area, family farm in Iowa). REALLY need to shorten the barrel on the scar; current set up is just a tad heavy. That and it looks a lot cooler on the AR 
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Posted: 12/15/2013 6:51:00 PM EDT
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Got my DBAL-I2 from the TNVC sale and am trying to figure out how to best set it up given my current equipment. I initially had it further back and had the pressure switch on the lower portion of the rail in the 4-5oclock position. had trouble activating both laser and light at the same time. i really want to be able to activate both at the same time, but i don't think thats going to be possible. So i just moved it further out in front and was wondering what you guys thought of this set-up. I'm mainly concerned with how you guys think the DBAL with do being that close to the brake. I mostly run with the can ON, but i do sometimes tai it off.
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Posted: 12/15/2013 7:36:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bobweaver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clayvt:
Got my DBAL-I2 from the TNVC sale and am trying to figure out how to best set it up given my current equipment. I initially had it further back and had the pressure switch on the lower portion of the rail in the 4-5oclock position. had trouble activating both laser and light at the same time. i really want to be able to activate both at the same time, but i don't think thats going to be possible. So i just moved it further out in front and was wondering what you guys thought of this set-up. I'm mainly concerned with how you guys think the DBAL with do being that close to the brake. I mostly run with the can ON, but i do sometimes tai it off. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/11393058234_3917bca5b2_h.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11393052484_9d43105e6c_h.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/11393012265_0b243200c5_b.jpg Thanks for any tips Is there not a dual switch that will work with both? 
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Posted: 12/15/2013 8:33:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bobweaver:
Is there not a dual switch that will work with both? http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/bobweaver/TGT/F2D37CE9-016E-47D3-86E2-73ED45DDBC42_zpsjcz2khww.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bobweaver:
Originally Posted By clayvt:
Got my DBAL-I2 from the TNVC sale and am trying to figure out how to best set it up given my current equipment. I initially had it further back and had the pressure switch on the lower portion of the rail in the 4-5oclock position. had trouble activating both laser and light at the same time. i really want to be able to activate both at the same time, but i don't think thats going to be possible. So i just moved it further out in front and was wondering what you guys thought of this set-up. I'm mainly concerned with how you guys think the DBAL with do being that close to the brake. I mostly run with the can ON, but i do sometimes tai it off. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/11393058234_3917bca5b2_h.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11393052484_9d43105e6c_h.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/11393012265_0b243200c5_b.jpg Thanks for any tips Is there not a dual switch that will work with both? http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad308/bobweaver/TGT/F2D37CE9-016E-47D3-86E2-73ED45DDBC42_zpsjcz2khww.jpg Its a dual switch that will work with both, but it's still impossible to use both at the same time with your thumb. It's also impossible unless you have a Surefire. I have one and have no use for it as it provides no constant on for the light. Clayvt, a better bet would be to put the tapeswitch where your support hand's fingers are. The very first post of the thread shows this. I have a scout light I can activate with my thumb, and simultatiously activate the laser with the fingers of the same hand. Much better to me than balancing 2 closely placed switches with one thumb. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2013 10:39:33 PM EDT
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Can someone post a pic of a DBAL-i2 next to a CQBL-1 for size/dimensional comparison please?
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2013 7:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By clayvt:
Got my DBAL-I2 from the TNVC sale and am trying to figure out how to best set it up given my current equipment. I initially had it further back and had the pressure switch on the lower portion of the rail in the 4-5oclock position. had trouble activating both laser and light at the same time. i really want to be able to activate both at the same time, but i don't think thats going to be possible. So i just moved it further out in front and was wondering what you guys thought of this set-up. I'm mainly concerned with how you guys think the DBAL with do being that close to the brake. I mostly run with the can ON, but i do sometimes tai it off. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/11393058234_3917bca5b2_h.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11393052484_9d43105e6c_h.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/11393012265_0b243200c5_b.jpg Thanks for any tips Have you thought about running your WML at 12 o'clock with your DBAL behind it a few notches? Possibly ditch your fixed front? |
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Posted: 12/16/2013 11:53:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheMirage]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MP0117:
Have you thought about running your WML at 12 o'clock with your DBAL behind it a few notches? Possibly ditch your fixed front? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MP0117:
Originally Posted By clayvt:
Got my DBAL-I2 from the TNVC sale and am trying to figure out how to best set it up given my current equipment. I initially had it further back and had the pressure switch on the lower portion of the rail in the 4-5oclock position. had trouble activating both laser and light at the same time. i really want to be able to activate both at the same time, but i don't think thats going to be possible. So i just moved it further out in front and was wondering what you guys thought of this set-up. I'm mainly concerned with how you guys think the DBAL with do being that close to the brake. I mostly run with the can ON, but i do sometimes tai it off. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/11393058234_3917bca5b2_h.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11393052484_9d43105e6c_h.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/11393012265_0b243200c5_b.jpg Thanks for any tips Have you thought about running your WML at 12 o'clock with your DBAL behind it a few notches? Possibly ditch your fixed front? Also running flip up irons further back. They aren't that bad considering you are getting the same length as many smaller SBRs |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 10:37:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MP0117:
Have you thought about running your WML at 12 o'clock with your DBAL behind it a few notches? Possibly ditch your fixed front? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MP0117:
Originally Posted By clayvt:
Got my DBAL-I2 from the TNVC sale and am trying to figure out how to best set it up given my current equipment. I initially had it further back and had the pressure switch on the lower portion of the rail in the 4-5oclock position. had trouble activating both laser and light at the same time. i really want to be able to activate both at the same time, but i don't think thats going to be possible. So i just moved it further out in front and was wondering what you guys thought of this set-up. I'm mainly concerned with how you guys think the DBAL with do being that close to the brake. I mostly run with the can ON, but i do sometimes tai it off. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/11393058234_3917bca5b2_h.jpg http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11393052484_9d43105e6c_h.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/11393012265_0b243200c5_b.jpg Thanks for any tips Have you thought about running your WML at 12 o'clock with your DBAL behind it a few notches? Possibly ditch your fixed front? I did, but my thumb blocks/comes very close to the IR beam causing sparkling. I'll post some new pics later, but I got it sorted out. Put the tape switch at my support fingers. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 8:33:39 PM EDT
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2013 9:03:09 AM EDT
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Daniel Defense DDM4 V3
Eotech EXPS 3-2 Eotech G33 Magnifier DBAL-i2 green vis/IR Surefire M951 w/IR cap ?New M952V with KM3 head just added  " />
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/26/2013 10:00:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwatkins:
does it "sparkalate" a lot? looks like it would Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwatkins:
Originally Posted By Mammynun:
I have previously posted these in the TNVC section, but I thought people here might like to see them as well. CQBL-1 shooting through a Tango Down front sight flashlight adaptor. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/mammynun/CQBL-1/DSCF1381.jpg~original http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/mammynun/CQBL-1/DSCF1385.jpg~original http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/mammynun/CQBL-1/DSCF1389.jpg~original Here's what it's designed for.... also works with an x300. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj307/mammynun/Weapon%20lights/DSCF1324.jpg~original does it "sparkalate" a lot? looks like it would No. it doesn't with the IR. The camera picked up some with the visible laser, but it's camera induced lens flair. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2014 9:44:52 PM EDT
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MOAR!
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NY, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2014 4:38:55 PM EDT
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This thread is awesome, really like seeing all the different set-up methods.
I was looking at purchasing an IR laser and had a quick question concerning mounting position. Is there a functional difference to mounting the laser further back as opposed to keeping it out towards to the muzzle? I would think mounting it closer to the receiver would be best for balance purposes but others I have spoken to have said it is not optimal. In the short amount of time I had a PEQ-2 mounted to my M16, I was instructed by my unit armorer to mount it as far forward as possible. When I asked why, the only reason he could give was that "the manual says so." Actually got yelled at when he caught me with it mounted at the back of the rail. I'm sort of a small guy and I also had a 203 mounted at the time, so aiming the rifle felt like doing curls. Then again this is also the same guy that told me the PEQ-2 was only effective out to 40 meters so I was somewhat skeptical to begin with. Does anyone have any insight into this issue? Is it all about preference or is there really an optimal mounting position? |
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Posted: 1/2/2014 8:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trapezoid:
This thread is awesome, really like seeing all the different set-up methods. I was looking at purchasing an IR laser and had a quick question concerning mounting position. Is there a functional difference to mounting the laser further back as opposed to keeping it out towards to the muzzle? I would think mounting it closer to the receiver would be best for balance purposes but others I have spoken to have said it is not optimal. In the short amount of time I had a PEQ-2 mounted to my M16, I was instructed by my unit armorer to mount it as far forward as possible. When I asked why, the only reason he could give was that "the manual says so." Actually got yelled at when he caught me with it mounted at the back of the rail. I'm sort of a small guy and I also had a 203 mounted at the time, so aiming the rifle felt like doing curls. Then again this is also the same guy that told me the PEQ-2 was only effective out to 40 meters so I was somewhat skeptical to begin with. Does anyone have any insight into this issue? Is it all about preference or is there really an optimal mounting position? There's a thread over on TOS that explains why forward mounting is preferable. There's optical alignment issues, as well as keeping the laser free of anything that it could reflect off of. Rear mounting the laser is an ergonomic compromise for those taht shoot with a forward grip. |
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Posted: 1/3/2014 3:45:50 AM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2014 12:11:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/3/2014 1:10:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m3racer:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/gw4k/firearms/418D3129-E74B-4272-B973-4D9D752FC90C_zpsbeqb1irq.jpg Nice blaster...Like your screen name as well!
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Posted: 1/3/2014 1:10:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice setups! Vic |
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Posted: 1/8/2014 10:43:54 AM EDT
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Not enough pistols in this thread, and I don't have a "good" laser on any of my rifles yet:
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USA
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Posted: 1/12/2014 9:34:32 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 1/12/2014 9:51:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/28/2014 10:46:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryCurious how that tape switch works with your activating thumb in the way of the laser? |
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Posted: 1/28/2014 11:01:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nf9648:
Curious how that tape switch works with your activating thumb in the way of the laser? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nf9648:
Curious how that tape switch works with your activating thumb in the way of the laser? I've seen this setup before as we'll and wondered. Everything but 12 when in front works. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/29/2014 10:56:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mk13]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheMirage:
I've seen this setup before as we'll and wondered. Everything but 12 when in front works. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheMirage:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Curious how that tape switch works with your activating thumb in the way of the laser? I've seen this setup before as we'll and wondered. Everything but 12 when in front works. Here's the trick with this set up. You move your thumb after you press twice. It stays on. That's it. I've had this DBAL combination at just about every position on the rail and where has it been the longest? Where it is now. The balance of the rifle and accessibility of what I need to get to instinctively is what makes this the best arrangement in this situation. I hate that rail for no other reason than it's only 10"s. Screw Troy too. DD can suck it now also because I was going to get a RISII M4A1. It's a journey. I'm not committed to anything other than what works the absolutely best for me right now. I hopefully get smarter. My gear gets better. It's never stops. Here's some pic's from said trip. The day I got my DBAL. It came with the Doctor. One pic for shits than split up. 
Forward on rail at 12 o'clock. It was ok but not intuitive finding the pressure pad on the left side. 
DBAL left side. PITA remembering with adjustments which way went where. Off set was not a problem. Probably my second favorite set up. There is no laser on right and light on left option as the SF takes up too much support side real estate. 
Current set up. Having all the weight shifted to the rear makes a huge difference with perceived weight. Over the top hold only affects the IR laser operation. I always activate IR constant On at the box. Surefire IR light also constant On via dual tail cap. There's nothing compromised. Visible green laser and white light I use the dual pressure pad for momentary activation. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 12:16:12 PM EDT
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Good write up!
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2014 7:15:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dmjerrywest44]
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USA
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Posted: 2/25/2014 1:50:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mk13]
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Picked up an EOTECH/Samson-Mfg FTS including an PVS14 adapter for $25 shipped of the EE. Too good of a deal to pass up. I'm converting the threaded bolt on the adapter ring that clamps to the PVS lock ring to a knurled thumb wheel so I can loosen that by hand... slide in/out the PVS for IR zeroing / familiarization and then in swap a daytime 3X magnifier. This all will likely be replaced with the Aimpoint twist mount and TNVC's TM14 mount but it's been fun to play with. |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 10:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmjerrywest44: http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af139/dmjerrywest44/IMG_3072.jpg http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af139/dmjerrywest44/IMG_3077.jpg  Damn thats a sweet fucking setup.
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Posted: 2/25/2014 11:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryVery nice, and probably not over 10 lbs. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 9:04:47 PM EDT
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I finally got a Lasermax ir laser for one of my rifles. I plan to get something a little more substantial, once I figure out which laser to get. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:21:03 PM EDT
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LaRue Costa.
What S/N? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmjerrywest44:
<a href="http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/dmjerrywest44/media/IMG_3072.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af139/dmjerrywest44/IMG_3072.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/dmjerrywest44/media/IMG_3077.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af139/dmjerrywest44/IMG_3077.jpg</a> |
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USA
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Posted: 3/6/2014 6:18:55 PM EDT
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New rail and magnifier. Got more room to move around
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USA
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Posted: 3/6/2014 6:37:55 PM EDT
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The light and pressure pad rails are both polymer. The fore grip and CQD rails are aluminum. Not shown, the Aimpoint 3X came with an LFU lens attachment. It turns everything pink looking and it completely filters out the the green visible laser of the DBAL. Is why it's not shown. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2014 7:38:53 PM EDT
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I added the Haley Strategic Mil620 mount and replaced the huge SF Millennium tailcap with a China cap and soldered it into circuit with my Surefire double remote. It's pretty compact but I bet a Unity/Scout setup would be even better 
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Posted: 3/24/2014 1:16:14 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 3/30/2014 9:14:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mk13]
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Decided I wanted to try another config. since getting the new rail. Running the pressure pad at 12:00 behind the DBAL & with no stubby VFG lets me lose two removable rail sections. Feels pretty good in terms of balance, pressure pad placement and overall weight. Incidentally, added a Firefly beacon to the PT helmet and upgraded the grip to a mod 3.
Here's a TTP you may find helpful. I store 123's in the pistol grip since the DBAL will eat them if I leave them in accidentally or if the 952V happens to run dry. I use two small "ranger" bands" to insulate and sound proof them. The band goes on the pistol grip or VFG if present to show hot laser. No more dead batteries either since you can tell from sight if a battery is in. 
On the SF dual pressure pad the light was the forward button position and the laser was the rear but it's the opposite now so that'll be a few hundred presentations to get that sorted out again. The Aimpoint 3X comes off when the NVGs come out but I have found that I can still use it as a 3X magnifier holding it out in front of the PVS14. You have to refocus first but it does work very well. I'd like to find a black 30mm locking gate clamp to hold the two together for hand held scanning from a static position. 
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Posted: 3/30/2014 10:37:58 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/31/2014 11:49:50 AM EDT
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Pew pew.
Everything has an IR laser; the only one lacking an IR illuminator is the Glock. (LASTAC-2 on that one.) 
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Posted: 3/31/2014 1:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat:
Pew pew. Everything has an IR laser; the only one lacking an IR illuminator is the Glock. (LASTAC-2 on that one.) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/bump.jpg That's one bad-ass chick! Are those all hers? Gotta protect them young'uns. 
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Posted: 3/31/2014 1:51:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat:
Pew pew. Everything has an IR laser; the only one lacking an IR illuminator is the Glock. (LASTAC-2 on that one.) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/bump.jpg haha this is amazing. |
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Posted: 3/31/2014 2:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat:
Pew pew. Everything has an IR laser; the only one lacking an IR illuminator is the Glock. (LASTAC-2 on that one.) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/rupert42/Guns/bump.jpg there's no laser on your cock. |
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Posted: 3/31/2014 2:53:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
there's no laser on your cock. A very disturbing image is now burned into my head. Thanks a lot.
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