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Posted: 1/29/2012 1:06:33 PM EDT
I hate to even consider anything atn, but this looks to be a good unit with great features. Especially at the price point of the unit. (5-6k). So did anyone get a chance to handle the units? Do they seem pretty robust? Who's building the units for ATN? Will anybody else be carrying the unit under a different label? I've watched the you tube vid's from shot with a overview, just wanting first hand impressions.
I've never been to high on using thermal for anything more than detection, but in the river bottoms on dark nights this might be the cats ass. Shots 50-100 yards in super dark conditions. |
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I spoke with my local gun shop owner after he came home from the shot show he looked at the new ATN Thor demo while there.Like most everyone he is not a ATN fan but he really liked the thor scope said it seemed pretty solid, good size/weight, and price was very good as far as thermal scopes. I would like to see some user feedback myself before pulling the trigger on anything ATN.
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I had a good look at the ATN THOR and for what it's worth, it looked nice. I didn't get a chance to use it and have no idea how solidly it's made but I imagine it works OK in use too. Though one criticism I do have is that the unit was completely un-evaluatable from an ergonomics perspective and almost unusable on the example rifle it was mounted on. Take a look at the mounts and the eye position given the size. Perhaps it was just me, but I found it very uncomfortable though I imagine you can make up some custom mounts for it so that's not a huge issue. The issue with ATN hasn't always been their parts - they buy a lot of stuff elsewhere and put an ATN badge on it. The PVS-14 is a good example. The issue has always been around how they look after their customers and how well they ensure what they sell is of merchantable quality. Though of late I am hearing the occasional good tale so I live in hope that's changing but it still doesn't help the victims of their past and until they make a solid effort to address those they've left without support in the past, I won't support them. In the mean time, there are other options, eg, the new TWS-13, that are coming in to compete more directly with the THOR at a similar price and I'd probably look more favourably towards products by companies with a track-record of supporting their customers. Especially as there is a lot of new development going on in that area at the moment. Regards David |
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David, can you elaborate any on the tws-13 you speak of? Was there a prototype at the show? I agree I would rather deal with another company with a much better track record in CS.
I've heard of a system coming from Night optics usa. Is this the system? |
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Quoted: David, can you elaborate any on the tws-13 you speak of? Was there a prototype at the show? I agree I would rather deal with another company with a much better track record in CS. I've heard of a system coming from Night optics usa. Is this the system? Yes, that's the one, though I am going on memory for the name. David.
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From memory I remember a conversation where ATN was selling a 320x240 kit to dealers. Had everything but the housing. My understanding was the core was made by FLIR. Once you have the optics and core a housing should be pretty easy. Heck, we saw it done very well with an old PVS-7 housing. I was told the kit was in the $2,300 range.
My source is very credible but I can't say who it is. Was not TNVC. |
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a youtube link of the scopes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUn2Ip_lNnM |
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I really like the size of the unit. Would be great on a sbr with titanium can. Im curious of how much of a increase in price there will be for the 640 core. If it's around 2k i think I'll pick one up.
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I'm pretty sure I'm going to be snagging one of the ATN Thor 2x's this week. I'll probably use opticsplanet unless you guys have better ideas.
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Cool let use know if you pick one up. A friend that attended the shot show told me he didn't think the new Thor Mini models would be shipping though until sometime late Feb?
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That's what I understand too, but I don't know the exact date.
I'll be calling opticsplanet today sometime, I'll let you know what info I pull out of them. |
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From optics planet chat: The current eta that is listed for that item is for around the week of February 26th.
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David, can you elaborate any on the tws-13 you speak of? Was there a prototype at the show? I agree I would rather deal with another company with a much better track record in CS. I've heard of a system coming from Night optics usa. Is this the system? Yes, that's the one, though I am going on memory for the name. David. Any pics or info on this unit? |
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I just snagged a 2x version of the ATN scope from sportsmans guide for 5k after shipping. Way less than what I was going to pay at optics planet. You have to sign up for their member's club deal at a cost of $29 bucks and a savings of $500 :)
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/atn-2x-thor-thermal-scope.aspx?a=938965 |
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I just snagged a 2x version of the ATN scope from sportsmans guide for 5k after shipping. Way less than what I was going to pay at optics planet. You have to sign up for their member's club deal at a cost of $29 bucks and a savings of $500 :) http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/atn-2x-thor-thermal-scope.aspx?a=938965 Man, that is a hell of a deal you got there...I hope they start carrying the 1x unit soon... |
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OK well I'm confused now.
"Choose from 3 different optical powers (1X, 2X or 3X), each enhanced with 2X digital zoom, doubling your magnification power (2X, 4X or 6X total)! " I'm guessing this means the 2X they list is actually the 1X. Seems like they are named with the 2X zoom feature activated. The 2X on SG has a FOV of 24deg. The 1X on the ATN site has a FOV of the same 24 deg. The 2X on the ATN site has a 15deg FOV. Looks like SG is either confused or being deceptive. |
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OK well I'm confused now. "Choose from 3 different optical powers (1X, 2X or 3X), each enhanced with 2X digital zoom, doubling your magnification power (2X, 4X or 6X total)! " I'm guessing this means the 2X they list is actually the 1X. Seems like they are named with the 2X zoom feature activated. The 2X on SG has a FOV of 24deg. The 1X on the ATN site has a FOV of the same 24 deg. The 2X on the ATN site has a 15deg FOV. Looks like SG is either confused or being deceptive. Good catch, I was wondering why they had a 6x model but no 1x model like everyone else. Hopefully we will find out when the poster in this thread gets his. These are stupid expensive, but for some reason the cost doesn't bother me at all, i would love to have one of these! Maybe it is a day/night usability and the fact that i never though thermal would be even remotely approachable in my price range... |
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Yep I had about ruled out a Thermal weapon sight the cost being the main factor but these new models have me taking a second look. When I really think about it I think my Aqulia/Nighthawk Nv sight would work better for my shooting needs 90% of the time but there's just something about thermal that makes me still want one.
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I do not own any NV as of yet but getting close, I really thought thermal was way out of my price range but with devices like the ATN Thor ariving on the market I am starting to re-think. Is thermal the direction everyone is headed? Are we on the verge of more and afordable products hitting the market?
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Blah... looks like I may have gotten tricked. It looks like they are indeed selling the 1X's as 2x's etc.
Not sure if I'm going to just settle for the 1x and try it out or fix the order now. |
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ATN claims that the new thor is 100% US made. Anyone know what company made the core,lense,and the body. Didnt ATN just put their name on it? This sure looks like a heck of a deal on a 640x480 thermal sight cant wait to to see some user feedback.
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Posted: Yesterday 4:56:30 PM CST
ATN claims that the new thor is 100% US made. Anyone know what company made the core,lense,and the body. Didnt ATN just put their name on it? This sure looks like a heck of a deal on a 640x480 thermal sight cant wait to to see some user feedback The 640 units are priced in the 11-12k area. That really sucks imo. Double the price basically for a 640 core? Wow! |
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Posted: Yesterday 4:56:30 PM CST
ATN claims that the new thor is 100% US made. Anyone know what company made the core,lense,and the body. Didnt ATN just put their name on it? This sure looks like a heck of a deal on a 640x480 thermal sight cant wait to to see some user feedback The 640 units are priced in the 11-12k area. That really sucks imo. Double the price basically for a 640 core? Wow! I was told the 640 core is a $4k upgrade. I was there at the show looking very hard at these. Is anyone else making a 640 core for thermal? I didn't find any others at the show, but may have missed them if there were. |
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Posted: Yesterday 4:56:30 PM CST
ATN claims that the new thor is 100% US made. Anyone know what company made the core,lense,and the body. Didnt ATN just put their name on it? This sure looks like a heck of a deal on a 640x480 thermal sight cant wait to to see some user feedback The 640 units are priced in the 11-12k area. That really sucks imo. Double the price basically for a 640 core? Wow! On ebay an atn 1.5x 30hz 640 scope is 10,499 or best offer.(NOT BAD CONSIDERING) Most 640x480 thermal scopes start at 15k and go up. I think what ATN has done will bring the price of other thermal scopes/viewers down or at least i sure hope so. |
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Does anyone have a comparison shot of the 320 core vs 640 core image?
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These things look awesome, I'm almost ashamed to be looking at an ATN product w/ such interest. Like someone else said, this is likely just something they put their name on. That being said, that has an AWFUL lot of features. I love the whole battery pack setup.
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So who's gonna be the guinea pig! I looked at this unit at Shot. It was nice and the price was also. ATN ? Well, we all know ATN did not build it. I was impressed for what it cost. Hard for me to say this because you know I hate ATN. I like the unit. My understanding is FLIR makes the core and ATN just provides the housing. Housing is easy and the hard part was made by FLIR. |
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After much trial and error I finally got my 2X (4X if you count digital zoom) scope ordered from sportsman's guide. This was the third try and apparently all those false starts were in my favor...
Why? Well, they had a whopping 10% discount today. (2 hours left if you are tempted) Final price for the scope was $5200 bucks. Compare that to the base price at optics planet of $6500 and you won't blame me for buying a few random flashlights and a other goodies. Now I can tell my wife how I saved about $1500 dollars today! I'll post pictures and info as soon as I get it. Expected ship date is Feb 29th. |
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Got a note last night that the ATN scope isn't shipping till March 20th
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taking the ship dates with a grain of salt will prob help your blood pressure. New product ship dates are rarely accurate it seems. Keep us informed though.
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Still waiting for March 19th to roll around
I noticed ATN had this site up. Somewhat unclear if the digital zoom will have 2x or 2x and 4x. I can't find anything about what caliber rifle this thing can support. I plan on putting it on a .308 |
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keep us posted - looking fwd to hearing how it works out for you.
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Any updates one these ATN mini thermal scopes? Are they shipping yet any solid info on imager brand inside the scopes?
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Mine just got here. I had to resist hugging the UPS lady.
It is a FLIR (Indigo) core. I got the 2x version in 320x240 resolution. First impresssions: Unit seems well built and comes well packages in a plastic hard case. Mine has a dark green housing, I would have opted for black, but no big deal. The battery compartment is nicely done. You can install 3 batteries, but it will run off just one (for 1/3 as long). Buttons are a little hard to press, they will aggravate you if you have gloves on. The power button is too close to the other buttons and you will press it by accident often till you get used to the thing. Luckily, it is a press and hold deal so you will not turn it off by accident. Power up time is nice and fast, seems less than the stated 3 seconds. The manual says max recoil is .308 The scope cover is a bit awkward, but not horrible. The Eye cup is total crap. Mine came with the "push to open" type eye cup that prevents the lcd display from lighting up your face. (I'm sure there is a name for this thing) It works OK if you are using the unit as a monocular, but it just doesn't mate right with your face when it is on a weapon. I'll probably be hacking my apart with an exacto knife. The scope becomes much more face/eye friendly when you just take the eye cup off, but you can't really run this way and risk all sorts of mud on your viewing lens. The unit mounts using a single ARMS swing arm type quick detach. No real complaints there, but be aware that the scope rides pretty low. You can't get away with having a front post sight on your AR-15 etc. I mounted it on my buddies AR because my .308 has a front post site at the moment. Once I ditched the eye cup it is fairly comfortable to look through. Operation is pretty simple, press the power button and go. Aside from power there are 4 direction buttons and and 'Enter' button. There are two sets of operations, you change between sets using the 'Enter' button. One set has zoom, black/white hot, brightness, and colormode The other set has reticle type, reticle color, calibrate, and reticle zeroing A few notes on this. The zoom button has two levels of digital zoom on top of the optical magnification you start with. So the 2x scope I have can have 2x/4x/8x. 640x480 versions have 3 levels of digital zoom. Some places only mention one level, but I guess some engineer was feeling nice and wrote a few extra lines of code to gives us this. Nice! Digital zoom will zoom in on the center of the screen, not the center of your reticle, so it is entirely possible for you to zoom in and the reticle be off in some far flung corner of the screen. This is DUMB. Hopefully it won't be an issue and my scope will zero with the reticle fairly close to the actual center of the screen. Also, the manual gives you no info on how much each button press moves the reticle at x range. (Something like 1 click = 1/4inch at 100 yards) It is clear that it is moving in one pixel increments so I can do the math myself I guess... (This is DUMB) There are no indications of where your reticle is with respect to how many clicks you have moved it from zero. A simple X,Y reading on the screen would have been sufficient. THIS IS DUMB DUMB DUMB There are no memory sets for different ranges/bullets/rifles that you might use. This is DUMB. Also, there is no indication of what brightness level you are at. This is DUMB. You will find yourself cycling through them often. One nice thing is that there is a separate button for blackhot/whitehot and color modes. So you can choose your favorite colorized thermal pallet and hop between that and black/white hot without having to cycle through all 10 other color modes. (Most of which are worthless except for impressing girls) Edit: I forgot the calibration button. Thermal cameras have to do what is called a "flat field correction" every so often. Most of them have an internal mechanical wipe that runs across the detector automatically at some interval. The scope doesn't have this (which is probably good because it can happen at really bad times and it freezes video for a second or two). The calibration button forces a flat field correction but you have to provide the flat field by covering the scope with the lens cap or your hand. Not a big deal, just annoying without a nice flip up lens cap. I haven't fiddled with the video out because I'm way to cheap to pay $100 bucks for a $5 cable. I'll rig one up myself before too long and get you guy some pictures. The video port does seem to be in an awkward spot though. 2 features it doesn't have, that I'm sad about. No image capture to internal memory like some other models I've seen. No USB port for firmware upgrades. Last but not least..... How does the image look? Just as good as any other FLIR 230 core, which is pretty much just as good as any other 230 core by anyone else. Not that I can claim to have seen them all. I've personally used FLIR Tau 320 on my UAV and a 160 core in a handheld imager. Short version: Unless this thing falls apart on me, it was well worth the money. Expect other vendors to start dropping prices soon, if you paid 10k for your thermal 320 resolution scope, you probably paid too much. Also, one last thing. I'm going to kill a million pigs with this and bathe in their blood. |
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Mine just got here. I had to resist hugging the UPS lady. It is a FLIR (Indigo) core. I got the 2x version in 320x240 resolution. First impresssions: Unit seems well built and comes well packages in a plastic hard case. Mine has a dark green housing, I would have opted for black, but no big deal. The battery compartment is nicely done. You can install 3 batteries, but it will run off just one (for 1/3 as long). Buttons are a little hard to press, they will aggravate you if you have gloves on. The power button is too close to the other buttons and you will press it by accident often till you get used to the thing. Luckily, it is a press and hold deal so you will not turn it off by accident. Power up time is nice and fast, seems less than the stated 3 seconds. The manual says max recoil is .308 The scope cover is a bit awkward, but not horrible. The Eye cup is total crap. Mine came with the "push to open" type eye cup that prevents the lcd display from lighting up your face. (I'm sure there is a name for this thing) It works OK if you are using the unit as a monocular, but it just doesn't mate right with your face when it is on a weapon. I'll probably be hacking my apart with an exacto knife. The scope becomes much more face/eye friendly when you just take the eye cup off, but you can't really run this way and risk all sorts of mud on your viewing lens. The unit mounts using a single ARMS swing arm type quick detach. No real complaints there, but be aware that the scope rides pretty low. You can't get away with having a front post sight on your AR-15 etc. I mounted it on my buddies AR because my .308 has a front post site at the moment. Once I ditched the eye cup it is fairly comfortable to look through. Operation is pretty simple, press the power button and go. Aside from power there are 4 direction buttons and and 'Enter' button. There are two sets of operations, you change between sets using the 'Enter' button. One set has zoom, black/white hot, brightness, and colormode The other set has reticle type, reticle color, calibrate, and reticle zeroing A few notes on this. The zoom button has two levels of digital zoom on top of the optical magnification you start with. So the 2x scope I have can have 2x/4x/8x. 640x480 versions have 3 levels of digital zoom. Some places only mention one level, but I guess some engineer was feeling nice and wrote a few extra lines of code to gives us this. Nice! Digital zoom will zoom in on the center of the screen, not the center of your reticle, so it is entirely possible for you to zoom in and the reticle be off in some far flung corner of the screen. This is DUMB. Hopefully it won't be an issue and my scope will zero with the reticle fairly close to the actual center of the screen. Also, the manual gives you no info on how much each button press moves the reticle at x range. (Something like 1 click = 1/4inch at 100 yards) It is clear that it is moving in one pixel increments so I can do the math myself I guess... (This is DUMB) There are no indications of where your reticle is with respect to how many clicks you have moved it from zero. A simple X,Y reading on the screen would have been sufficient. THIS IS DUMB DUMB DUMB There are no memory sets for different ranges/bullets/rifles that you might use. This is DUMB. Also, there is no indication of what brightness level you are at. This is DUMB. You will find yourself cycling through them often. One nice thing is that there is a separate button for blackhot/whitehot and color modes. So you can choose your favorite colorized thermal pallet and hop between that and black/white hot without having to cycle through all 10 other color modes. (Most of which are worthless except for impressing girls) Edit: I forgot the calibration button. Thermal cameras have to do what is called a "flat field correction" every so often. Most of them have an internal mechanical wipe that runs across the detector automatically at some interval. The scope doesn't have this (which is probably good because it can happen at really bad times and it freezes video for a second or two). The calibration button forces a flat field correction but you have to provide the flat field by covering the scope with the lens cap or your hand. Not a big deal, just annoying without a nice flip up lens cap. I haven't fiddled with the video out because I'm way to cheap to pay $100 bucks for a $5 cable. I'll rig one up myself before too long and get you guy some pictures. The video port does seem to be in an awkward spot though. 2 features it doesn't have, that I'm sad about. No image capture to internal memory like some other models I've seen. No USB port for firmware upgrades. Last but not least..... How does the image look? Just as good as any other FLIR 230 core, which is pretty much just as good as any other 230 core by anyone else. Not that I can claim to have seen them all. I've personally used FLIR Tau 320 on my UAV and a 160 core in a handheld imager. Short version: Unless this thing falls apart on me, it was well worth the money. Expect other vendors to start dropping prices soon, if you paid 10k for your thermal 320 resolution scope, you probably paid too much. Also, one last thing. I'm going to kill a million pigs with this and bathe in their blood. Let's hope it holds its zero. This has been a recurring issue on many other iterations of the "thermal weapon sight" |
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Nice review, thanks! Please keep us updated on the below. That is what I would worry about too.
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Let's hope it holds its zero. This has been a recurring issue on many other iterations of the "thermal weapon sight" |
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Cool thanks for the update do keep use informed as you use the Mini Thor scope more.I also looked at the 2x 320x240 model and may buy one sometime this summer how is the over all size and weight of the scope pretty compact?. My hunting buddy traded for a used like NIB SCORPION thermal weapon sight a few weeks back it uses the 320 x 240 Thermal-Eye 4500 imager he already has had the FLIR H-307 viewer since last summer also. I have only had the chance to use the Scorpion a few times its starting to get hot here rattle snakes/copperheads are moving around and bitting bugs are out in full force so our night hunting/stalking slows way down till fall other than just sitting in a blind hammering hogs at a feeder time to time. The Scorpion scope is pretty darn cool but out of my price range I have noticed a few things I didn't expect one if a critter is running you have to lead it some the 30hz frame rate doesnt seem fast enough to aim dead on fast moving critters. Another issue is up in the brush a couple times we were blasting away at hogs and not hitting them like the scope was off POI. When we looked through the PVS-14's we saw we were shooting through a forest of brush the thermal sees right through it like it wasn't even there I am sure we were deflecting bullets without knowing.Overall thermal is pretty cool stuff I miss the clarity normal I2 night vision has sometimes but more than once this fall the fog came out thick and only the thermal allowed use to see through it my NV just was useless other than seeing about 20ft into the white blanket.
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That is one good thing about NV and IR lasers, if the laser is on target through the brush most likely the slug will be too.
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Ok boys and girls. I've had a good weekend of fun with this toy and there is good and bad news.
The unit seems to be perfectly capable of holding zero. I shot a good 50 rounds or so with no problems. The unit I have seems perfectly capable of 200 yard shots on a pig sized animal. At 200 yards each pixel is about an inch wide without digital zoom. I made a little piggy out of cold mud and fired off about 15 shots at 150 and 200 yards. It was a quickfire kinda deal using a sitting bipod and I didn't miss a shot. In open terrain you should be able to spot deer/pig sized animals easily at 800 yards especially if they are moving. Telling the difference between deer/pig/coyote will be difficult outside 300 yards, but you will get the hang of it after a while. The bad part is that the unit is buggy. Really buggy. It randomly does a soft restart every few minutes, and sometimes it will do it 3 or 4 times in a row. This will kick out you out of whatever zoom mode you are in and will rob you of a crosshair sometimes. The FLIR core isn't restarting because you don't see the FLIR splash screen, but whatever processing they have after the core just chokes, dies, and restarts and displays the firmware version at random times etc. It doesn't make the unit unusable, but it certainly throws it out of the category of serious dependable equipment. Maybe my unit is bad, ill let you know what ATN says once I contact them. A little more on zeroing the rifle. This part really makes me angry that ATN didn't put more thought into it. It is a little too easy to accidentally enter into the zeroing menu set and move your reticle around. This alone isn't so bad, but what is a really unforgivable sin is that they don't give you ANY indication about where your zero point is on the screen. If they would have just bothered to display X,Y coordinates this would have made this unit much more useful. Forget about moving this thing from rifle to rifle without having to fire off lots of rounds to rezero again. Stupid ATN. |
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Ok boys and girls. I've had a good weekend of fun with this toy and there is good and bad news. The unit seems to be perfectly capable of holding zero. I shot a good 50 rounds or so with no problems. The unit I have seems perfectly capable of 200 yard shots on a pig sized animal. At 200 yards each pixel is about an inch wide without digital zoom. I made a little piggy out of cold mud and fired off about 15 shots at 150 and 200 yards. It was a quickfire kinda deal using a sitting bipod and I didn't miss a shot. In open terrain you should be able to spot deer/pig sized animals easily at 800 yards especially if they are moving. Telling the difference between deer/pig/coyote will be difficult outside 300 yards, but you will get the hang of it after a while. The bad part is that the unit is buggy. Really buggy. It randomly does a soft restart every few minutes, and sometimes it will do it 3 or 4 times in a row. This will kick out you out of whatever zoom mode you are in and will rob you of a crosshair sometimes. The FLIR core isn't restarting because you don't see the FLIR splash screen, but whatever processing they have after the core just chokes, dies, and restarts and displays the firmware version at random times etc. It doesn't make the unit unusable, but it certainly throws it out of the category of serious dependable equipment. Maybe my unit is bad, ill let you know what ATN says once I contact them. A little more on zeroing the rifle. This part really makes me angry that ATN didn't put more thought into it. It is a little too easy to accidentally enter into the zeroing menu set and move your reticle around. This alone isn't so bad, but what is a really unforgivable sin is that they don't give you ANY indication about where your zero point is on the screen. If they would have just bothered to display X,Y coordinates this would have made this unit much more useful. Forget about moving this thing from rifle to rifle without having to fire off lots of rounds to rezero again. Stupid ATN. |
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Ok boys and girls. I've had a good weekend of fun with this toy and there is good and bad news. The unit seems to be perfectly capable of holding zero. I shot a good 50 rounds or so with no problems. The unit I have seems perfectly capable of 200 yard shots on a pig sized animal. At 200 yards each pixel is about an inch wide without digital zoom. I made a little piggy out of cold mud and fired off about 15 shots at 150 and 200 yards. It was a quickfire kinda deal using a sitting bipod and I didn't miss a shot. In open terrain you should be able to spot deer/pig sized animals easily at 800 yards especially if they are moving. Telling the difference between deer/pig/coyote will be difficult outside 300 yards, but you will get the hang of it after a while. The bad part is that the unit is buggy. Really buggy. It randomly does a soft restart every few minutes, and sometimes it will do it 3 or 4 times in a row. This will kick out you out of whatever zoom mode you are in and will rob you of a crosshair sometimes. The FLIR core isn't restarting because you don't see the FLIR splash screen, but whatever processing they have after the core just chokes, dies, and restarts and displays the firmware version at random times etc. It doesn't make the unit unusable, but it certainly throws it out of the category of serious dependable equipment. Maybe my unit is bad, ill let you know what ATN says once I contact them. A little more on zeroing the rifle. This part really makes me angry that ATN didn't put more thought into it. It is a little too easy to accidentally enter into the zeroing menu set and move your reticle around. This alone isn't so bad, but what is a really unforgivable sin is that they don't give you ANY indication about where your zero point is on the screen. If they would have just bothered to display X,Y coordinates this would have made this unit much more useful. Forget about moving this thing from rifle to rifle without having to fire off lots of rounds to rezero again. Stupid ATN. Thanks for the range report. I'm seriously considering buying one of these scopes for my 6.8SPC AR-15 Good to know that 200 yard shots shouldn't be too hard It will be interesting to hear what ATN says about the bugs in your sight, and even more interesting to see how they handle your problem, the one fear I have about ATN is that I have heard that their customer service is poor, hopefully they take care of you and alleviate my main concern about buying from them. keep us posted |
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What really gets me about this is that I have a FLIR Tau 320 and have read over the command set and it's capabilities etc. I'm an Electrical Engineer and my hunch is that the feature problems with not displaying the reticle coordinates and not zooming to the reticle are easy software fixes. Maybe they just didn't have this product tested long enough to think of it. (Although it took me 5 mins to realize it)
I'm ohhhh so tempted to rip this thing apart and write my own firmware :D The reboot issue may just be my unit, I'm giving ATN the benefit of the doubt here. Surely they wouldn't be sending these out with such an obvious and crippling bug. |
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Just got off the phone with one of the engineers that builds these things for ATN, he was thankful for my suggestions and receptive to implementing some of them. He was wary of implementing the X/Y coordinates because they were attempting to keep to their symboligy paradigm and not have any text on the screen.
We talked about the zoom centering on the pixel array vs the reticle and he said they don't think they can pull it off because of the amount of calculations it would take to shift the image, I thought for sure the core provided the zoom capability and not some post processing, but I could be wrong. The rebooting issue is likely a real firmware bug that is probably already solved in the next batch of units, I'll have to wait a bit and send mine back for a firmware upgrade. I'm sending him an email with some thoughts and suggestions. Hopefully it goes well. |
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