Urban Ops:


I have two pair of PVS7's, an older Gen3 51lpmm pair and a newer pinnacle tube -D model. Frequently, I ride my MTB in a local forested county park at night with these on and upon exiting the trail I end up in an apartment complex. The remainder of the loop back to the trail head is on a street in a business district, and the streetlights are soo bright they trigger the brightness protection on the newer more sensitive goggles. This was never an issue with the older pair, and to be honest the street isn't really all that brightly lit.

What are you guys doing to help goggles that are too sensitive for your AO? If I put the daylight filter on, there isn't enough image to travel by safely. Maybe someone needs to come up with a polarized filter for the newer NVD's?? Something like what's on the Trijicon Reflex but holds settings better?

Dave

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: Urban Ops: I have two pair of PVS7's, an older Gen3 51lpmm pair and a newer pinnacle tube -D model. Frequently, I ride my MTB in a local forested county park at night with these on and upon exiting the trail I end up in an apartment complex. The remainder of the loop back to the trail head is on a street in a business district, and the streetlights are soo bright they trigger the brightness protection on the newer more sensitive goggles. This was never an issue with the older pair, and to be honest the street isn't really all that brightly lit. What are you guys doing to help goggles that are too sensitive for your AO? If I put the daylight filter on, there isn't enough image to travel by safely. Maybe someone needs to come up with a polarized filter for the newer NVD's?? Something like what's on the Trijicon Reflex but holds settings better? Dave

Dave,

Is there a problem wearing the pinnacle's? Does the brightness dim down too much? I think you have the optimum set up with pinnacles?

Originally Posted By inkaybee: Originally Posted By Victor: Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: Urban Ops: I have two pair of PVS7's, an older Gen3 51lpmm pair and a newer pinnacle tube -D model. Frequently, I ride my MTB in a local forested county park at night with these on and upon exiting the trail I end up in an apartment complex. The remainder of the loop back to the trail head is on a street in a business district, and the streetlights are soo bright they trigger the brightness protection on the newer more sensitive goggles. This was never an issue with the older pair, and to be honest the street isn't really all that brightly lit. What are you guys doing to help goggles that are too sensitive for your AO? If I put the daylight filter on, there isn't enough image to travel by safely. Maybe someone needs to come up with a polarized filter for the newer NVD's?? Something like what's on the Trijicon Reflex but holds settings better? Dave Dave, Is there a problem wearing the pinnacle's? Does the brightness dim down too much? I think you have the optimum set up with pinnacles? For those trying to learn: Pinnacles are thin filmed, auto gated tubes. That means the power to them turns on and off so fast they can control the amount of light they "let in" and thereby protect themselves (from high light conditions) electronically. Because of this, they don't need as thick of ion barrier to protect them. Since less light is lost to the thin ion barrier, pinnacle tubes work better in low light than standard filmed tube. And becasue the auto gated circuit contols excess light they also work better in high light conditions. Pinnacle tubes are not supposed to be sold to civilians per an agreement between the US govt and ITT but some slipped out. This is a simplified explanation but for us lay people it ought to be accurate enough.

Thanks Ink! I need to keep in mind this is a new "Forum" per say and many do not know the "slang" and what certain things mean. Sorry!

They get a little darker, and REALLY blurry, just like my older ones would do when over exposed to light. They are not really useful when this happens. I can tear ass down a trail in total darkness with them on, but when I get out on the sidewalk, I have to take them off.

Dave

A question from a new -14 owner, eagerly awaiting the mail.

I'm going to use it with my EOTech. That said, which would be best:

a. Buy a 3x for the PVS14 for better reach at night with the EOTech.

b. Buy the 3x (when it comes out) for the EOTech?

Also, how useful is the 3x for the PVS14? They don't seem real expensive, and I never see anyone using them, should I consider that a clue? LOL

TIA

Originally Posted By v188: A question from a new -14 owner, eagerly awaiting the mail. I'm going to use it with my EOTech. That said, which would be best: a. Buy a 3x for the PVS14 for better reach at night with the EOTech. b. Buy the 3x (when it comes out) for the EOTech? Also, how useful is the 3x for the PVS14? They don't seem real expensive, and I never see anyone using them, should I consider that a clue? LOL TIA

I have used a 2.5 X lens with an aimpoint and it narrows down you field of view a great deal. Also if the aimpoint and the 14 are not perfectly lined up it "looks" off. As long as the aimpoint is zeroed you will still hit but the overall effect is not as good as say an ACOG in front of a 14.

With the Eotech however it might be a way to go as the eotech housing is nearly invisible in the 14s view.

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SIERRA II ALPHA

This is the 3rd installment on some NVD’s. (Actually more of a supplement to my first post on the D-760 and the Raptor 6X.) The pics below are a view through the D-760 at 150M with a PEQ-2A used for target illumination and designation. You must please excuse the average looking pics, I’m still getting used to the macro feature on my digi. Some shots turn out better than others. The views here are NO WAY near the quality seen through the D-760.





The first shot shows the overall setup. The PEQ was set in it's low power setting for BOTH the illuminator and laser. The 2nd and third shots show the amber mil dot reticle with the PEQ laser imposed over the center. The location for these pics was up around 7,200ft and NO moon. It was an extremely DARK night and good tubes of 29 sig2noise of both my D-760 AND MUM were pressed to the limit without the aid of the PEQ. It WAS DARK out here!

At the conclusion of this shoot, I shot two groups. This was the first time sighting in this particuliar D-760. In the pics, my target is on the far left and you can also see one at 200M in the background to right rear. The first 5 round group (top group) with this 6.8 SPC measures at 1.250" at 150M!! The second 4 round group measured at 1.5". I can tell you these shots were taken rapid fire (every 1 second) I'm STILL amazed at the ease of shooting in the dark with good gear! Just amazing folks!!



I will be posting the different power settings comparisons with the PEQ-2A laser over at the IR Laser Comparison link. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=20&t=235434&page=4

Edited to add....A few folks wanted to know the make of my 6.8SPC. It was made from Wes over at MSTN! This platform shoots a 1/2 minute all day long, well at least during the day!!

Can somone tell me the difference between the ENVIS and the PVS 14? I know the ENVIS does not have adjustable gain, but is this the only difference? I believe the ENVIS uses the same head and weapons mounts as the PVS-14. Is it as rugged? Thanks.

Vic has been asking me to chime in with my ten cents and I figured now is the time to get in the mix. Just a quickie for now.

I recently purchased a Select A D-760 from Vic and I must say that his comments about the picture not doing it justice are well founded. In short: I CAN'T BELIEVE THE CLARITY OF THIS SCOPE. I knew from the start that it is WAY above my skill level, but I don't care because I am going to have one heck of a time sharpening my skills! Spent brass city baby!!!

Anyway, I am new to NV but have run my eyes through a few different types, Gen II, OmniV, PVS7's etc. The D-760 is not even in the same universe! It was almost magical the first night I tried it out.

While I have not shot with it yet (nor do I imagine I will soon as I live in Kalifornia), I will post some more feedback as well as scope specs when I get a chance.

If any of you are thinking of picking up some NV, please spend some time talking to Vic. I have found him to be a knowledgable, credible, and stand up guy who comes through with high quality goods.

A special thanks to every who has contributed to this thread and the IR comparison thread as well. The comments/feedback/input has been a wealth of knowledge for many people I know including myself.

Freddy

Maybe you'll get an answer Muskrat, I asked the same question as the second post on this topic, and never got an answer. Better luck to you. I'd really like to know which muzzle device works the best with NVD.

I would also like to know where the D-760's are from... I am interested in purchasing one but can't seem to find out much as the websites I have contaced (so far ) don't have them in stock.

re. the PVS-14 for mountain biking - - no go. I whipped up a helmet mount using a Pro-Tec helmet and some time in the shop. Works great but the 14 doesn't have the field of view necessary to do that safely. last night was overcast and had the gain turned way down. great for walking around though.

Originally Posted By avengeusa: so what is the pricing on the D-760 scopes? which tubes can be had in this unit? do they old zero? and who makes them?, I see on the net that there are a few places that have them, but they all appear to be the same, yukon optics even makes one that looks almost identicle, they may be buying from the manufacturer and adding their own name?

Hi,

Hope to answer your and and Heron's questions.

I have written a review on the Raptor vs. the D-760 on pg.1. Any optics concern should be satisfied with this review, as well as what jnglt91 has stated. I personally have been using the D-760 for approx. 2 years now. I am a tactical consultant for 6 large LE Depts. thus far and all of them employ the D-760. As for holding zero, I will take it you are asking while the unit is mounted? I have well over 2000 rounds between several 760's and not ONE of them has EVER failed to hold zero. They are as the Raptors, rated to .50 cals. As for the tubes I deal with, ALL are ITT Gen 3 Select Alpha's and are ALWAYS hand selected and ALWAYS have SIG2NOISE at 27 or better, low EBI, great gain and resolution, plus miminal blems if any. Lately as you all know, getting a lot of 50 tubes nowadays from ITT produces 2-3 blem free WITH good performance.

I deal strictly with OPTICS HQ and I have dealt with the owner there for several years now on ALL my tactical NV needs for all my LE Dept's. He always gives me GREAT deals due to our tactical corespondence, on all their ITT line of MUM's, PVS-14's and of course the awesome D-760. I always pass on the savings to individguals I know in LE and some I meet here! Great folk around here ya know! I guess I've become a part time dealer sorta speak with VERY low mark up. I just enjoy talking and keeping folks informed on great gear. I get good pleasure with the likes of jnglt91 above You should have heard him the very first time he powered up his D-760 and I got to hear his reaction over the phone! hehe

Hope this helps!

Vic

Edited to add...Heron, I have D-760's 6x's available, you can email me if you like. Pricing range is in the $3500-$3900 range depending on tube selection.