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Posted: 7/12/2017 8:36:42 PM EDT

I am filling out my first 5320.20 and have a question. For section 4 it wants the manufacture. Since this is an SBR from a pistol do I list myself as the manufacture or the original manufacture from when it was a pistol?

Posted: 7/12/2017 10:06:11 PM EDT

[#1]

People seem to have gotten them back approved both ways. On mine, I put the original manufacturer (whats in box 4a. on the Form 1), and they're always approved.

Posted: 7/12/2017 10:56:51 PM EDT

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People seem to have gotten them back approved both ways. On mine, I put the original manufacturer (whats in box 4a. on the Form 1), and they're always approved.

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Ditto.

I always have mine match the F1 for manufacturer. But lots of people do it the other way.

Posted: 7/13/2017 7:31:36 AM EDT

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Thank you both for the replies. I'll just match the F1 to play it safe.

Posted: 7/13/2017 1:13:39 PM EDT

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Just got mine kicked back for listing my trust as the manufacturer.
Apparently this inspector wanted Arsenal as mfg.

Posted: 7/13/2017 1:26:42 PM EDT

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Remember, a Form 1 is for "making" an NFA firearm, not "manufacturing". On the Form 1:4a.Name and Address of Original Manufacturer and/or Importer of Firearm (if any)
"(if any)" would apply to the guys making a silencer from an oil can, Maglite or making their SBR from an 80% lower......where there was no original firearms manufacturer.

Your Responsible Persons Questionnaire asks: 4b. Name of Maker, Manufacturer and/or Importer of Firearm.
You should include all that is applicable.

If your making an SBR from a Colt M4 Carbine, "Colt" is the original manufacturer. You (or your trust) would be the "maker".
If you are making a silencer from a Maglite, then you leave 4a on the Form 1 blank or put "none". On the RPQ you just don't list a manufacturer.
If you are SBR'ing a Yugo AK it would be Zastava as the manufacturer, Century Arms as the Importer and you or your trust as the maker.

Posted: 7/13/2017 2:45:52 PM EDT

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Interesting updates.
Thanks for all the extra info, it helps me avoid mistakes in the future.

Posted: 7/13/2017 6:38:07 PM EDT

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One last clarifcation, for box 1 were it asks for the registered owner and address. It is my address with my trust name, correct?

Posted: 7/13/2017 7:44:49 PM EDT

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Correct. The trust is the registered owner.

Posted: 7/13/2017 8:05:34 PM EDT

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Correct. The trust is the registered owner.

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Yep, the same info you put in the "Applicant's Name and Address" box on the Form 1 (assuming you haven't moved intrastate since then of course, then put current address where item is stored).

Posted: 7/13/2017 8:13:27 PM EDT

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I just put all the info that's on the F1 on the form. (Trust name and my name, manufacturer spikes, etc)

I use a range across state lines and can do a 12month form each year.

Posted: 7/13/2017 8:42:58 PM EDT

[#11]

Thank you everyone. I wanted to make sure I did not need to resubmit for some stupid mistake.

Posted: 7/18/2017 9:38:13 AM EDT

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I submitted my form Fri. night via the e-mail to fax address on the form. Is there anyway for me to verify that they received the form?

Posted: 7/18/2017 11:27:45 AM EDT

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I submitted my form Fri. night via the e-mail to fax address on the form. Is there anyway for me to verify that they received the form?

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If you call, it will eventually be Pending like other forms. But, the turnaround is often about a month, so you'll have to wait long enough for them to see it, but not too long so that it's already approved.

Posted: 7/18/2017 12:25:21 PM EDT

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If you call, it will eventually be Pending like other forms. But, the turnaround is often about a month, so you'll have to wait long enough for them to see it, but not too long so that it's already approved.

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I submitted my form Fri. night via the e-mail to fax address on the form. Is there anyway for me to verify that they received the form?

If you call, it will eventually be Pending like other forms. But, the turnaround is often about a month, so you'll have to wait long enough for them to see it, but not too long so that it's already approved.

Thank you. I just wanted to make sure they got the forms. I know the going turn around is 1 to 1.5 months right now. It would suck to find out in a month that they never received the form.

Posted: 7/31/2017 7:15:00 PM EDT

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I am blown away. People were saying it was taking 40ish days to get a form turned around. I used the e-mail to fax option on the form and e-mailed it in late 7/13. The stamp on the form says they received it 7/14, approved it on 7/27 and i just got it in the mail today. Total turn around from them getting it to me getting it was 17 days including weekends.

Thanks for all the help guys.

Posted: 8/1/2017 10:34:25 AM EDT

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Question on box 1 when using the 5320.20 to notify ATF of permanent address change-
Box 1- Old address or new, permanent address?
I think I have Boxes 2, 6 and 7 figured out, but Box #1 is causing me to overthink it.

Posted: 8/1/2017 10:58:57 AM EDT

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Question on box 1 when using the 5320.20 to notify ATF of permanent address change-
Box 1- Old address or new, permanent address?
I think I have Boxes 2, 6 and 7 figured out, but Box #1 is causing me to overthink it.

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Box 1 is the current owner's name and current primary address. Also usually the same information in the "Name and Address of Maker/Transferee" box of a Form 1/4, assuming that hasn't changed since those forms were submitted with an intrastate move.

If you keep the NFA item(s) at your primary address, then the address in box 1 will be the same as what you put in box 6, AKA the "old address" as it pertains to a permanent move.

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