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Posted: 5/22/2017 8:37:17 AM EDT
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No. Bring copies of your stamps and make sure your destination state is suppressor friendly.
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Posted: 5/22/2017 10:43:55 AM EDT
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No. Bring copies of your stamps and make sure your destination state is suppressor friendly. Personally I also like to check any states that I am passing through. If I'm passing through a state that is not friendly, then I do a 5320.20 for that trip. Just me, I'm overly cautious. And since silencers are firearms, I am careful to transport them IAW the Firearm Owners Protection Act. Of course this does not apply to your trip. Be safe. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 1:31:28 PM EDT
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I'm sure it has been asked before, but I can not find what I am looking for... Do I need to fill out a 5320.20 to take a suppressor to a different state. I will be traveling from Pa to Ga and then to Tn for a few days. You can't find what you're looking for? Ever thought about looking at your Form 1/4? 
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Posted: 5/22/2017 8:57:18 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone. I will be traveling through Maryland. I am going to be sure that I don't have to stop at all.
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You can't find what you're looking for? Ever thought about looking at your Form 1/4? |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 9:11:38 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone. I will be traveling through Maryland. I am going to be sure that I don't have to stop at all. I did not think to look there. What section are you talking about? I did see where it talks about SBR's and SBS's, but nothing about suppressors. ATF Martinsburg will be happy to approve a 5320.20 if you submit it. My silencers hang on the front of SBRs, so it is simple for me to put the SBRs and Silencers on the same form and get both approved. So many reasons you don't want to stop in Maryland, but I believe they are silencer friendly. Triple check before you go. Comply with FOPA which requires uninterrupted passage. If this is a routine trip, you can get a 5320.20 approved for recurring trips for up to a year. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 9:23:57 PM EDT
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I think that is the point he is trying to make. SBRs, SBS, MGs, and DDs require prior approval. AOWs and silencers are not mentioned in the instructions of the 5320.20. This is because the regulations do not require prior approval. ATF Martinsburg will be happy to approve a 5320.20 if you submit it. My silencers hang on the front of SBRs, so it is simple for me to put the SBRs and Silencers on the same form and get both approved. So many reasons you don't want to stop in Maryland, but I believe they are silencer friendly. Triple check before you go. Comply with FOPA which requires uninterrupted passage. If this is a routine trip, you can get a 5320.20 approved for recurring trips for up to a year. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 11:02:07 PM EDT
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I think that is the point he is trying to make. SBRs, SBS, MGs, and DDs require prior approval. AOWs and silencers are not mentioned in the instructions of the 5320.20. This is because the regulations do not require prior approval. Interstate Movement: If the firearm identified in item 4 is a machinegun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, or destructive device, the registrant may be required by 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(4) to obtain permission from ATF prior to any transportation in interstate or foreign commerce. ATF E-Form 5320.20 can be used to request this permission. And the current 5320.20 says: A written request and prior authorization from ATF to transport interstate or in foreign commerce any destructive device, machinegun, short-barreled rifle, or short-barreled shotgun is required under the provisions of Section 922 (a) (4), Title 18, U.S.C., and Section 478.28, Title 27, CFR. A letter of request, in duplicate, containing all information required on this form, may be submitted in lieu of the form. The previous forms have similar wording. Suppressors and AOWs are exempt by their omission from the list. |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 12:41:14 PM EDT
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I thought so. I did not know if there was another section that I did not see. I know about the FOPA. I drive a pickup truck with no cap on it... |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 8:55:30 PM EDT
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926A |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 9:14:49 PM EDT
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I don't want to be an internet lawyer, but
for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, to transport in interstate or foreign commerce any destructive device, machinegun (as defined in section 5845 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986), short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle I mean, if I travel out of state and conduct no business, purchase or sell no items whatsoever, bring my own ammo, am I really engaging in interstate commerce? |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 10:35:44 PM EDT
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I don't want to be an internet lawyer, but seems to refer only to interstate or foreign commerce. Could a case be made that transporting a MG, SBR, SBS, or DD across state lines is done outside the definition of "commerce"? I mean, if I travel out of state and conduct no business, purchase or sell no items whatsoever, bring my own ammo, am I really engaging in interstate commerce? |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 10:59:44 AM EDT
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That ship has sailed, SCOTUS has ruled to the effect that "commerce" also means "non-commerce". Essentially, if you take your something into another state, you have indirectly effected "commerce" in that state because the alternative is you would have purchased those goods there rather than bring them with you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't want to be an internet lawyer, but seems to refer only to interstate or foreign commerce. Could a case be made that transporting a MG, SBR, SBS, or DD across state lines is done outside the definition of "commerce"? I mean, if I travel out of state and conduct no business, purchase or sell no items whatsoever, bring my own ammo, am I really engaging in interstate commerce? The feds have hung every hat they wear on the federal commerce laws and will burn the country to the ground to keep it that way. |
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Posted: 5/24/2017 2:09:23 PM EDT
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This +1000 The feds have hung every hat they wear on the federal commerce laws and will burn the country to the ground to keep it that way. They don't want to take your guns, they just want a little common sense gun safety. Yea, right! |
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