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Posted: 4/30/2017 7:06:51 AM EDT
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On the rear tang.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 7:38:37 AM EDT
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Under where the stocks attach. See above post.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 10:06:28 AM EDT
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If that is under the stock, it's not legal. Conspicuous definition: "standing out so as to be clearly visible" Tell me more.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 1:07:39 PM EDT
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If that is under the stock, it's not legal. Conspicuous definition: "standing out so as to be clearly visible" Tell me more. Stock channel is easy, or the BBL so as to not mar the receiver. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 2:39:40 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the advice.
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Posted: 5/1/2017 12:15:40 AM EDT
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I go barrel (6 o'clock position) for engraving on all my HKs.
Its not like they are modular like an AR where uppers could get swapped around, barrels are pretty much fixed and you will burn though a tractor trailer load of ammo before you burn up a 9MM MP5 barrel. |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 8:05:22 AM EDT
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If that is under the stock, it's not legal. Conspicuous definition: "standing out so as to be clearly visible" Tell me more. |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 5:08:55 PM EDT
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Mine is in the rail under the sliding stock. Meets ATF requirements and when the stock is extended is fully visable.
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Posted: 5/2/2017 11:30:21 PM EDT
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Mine is in the rail under the sliding stock. Meets ATF requirements and when the stock is extended is fully visable. |
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Posted: 5/3/2017 1:32:31 AM EDT
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I'm going with engraving on the barrel on mine.
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Posted: 5/3/2017 1:38:59 AM EDT
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On the magwell
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Posted: 5/5/2017 5:50:25 PM EDT
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All 3 of mine are on the magwell. Engraver matched manufacturers markings fairly close so after I finished over it, my trust info "blends in"
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Posted: 5/9/2017 1:40:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFWIW- Mike at TSC has been officially notified by ATF that he can no longer mark it there. He now marks guns very discreetly on top in the space between the model and the serial number.
I know because he is SBRing two HK94s for me right now (just waiting on the forms to be approved). |
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Posted: 5/9/2017 1:42:02 PM EDT
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FWIW- Mike at TSC has been officially notified by ATF that he can no longer mark it there. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 4:05:39 PM EDT
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So has TPM Outfitters. TPM was also told they could not engrave the barrel either. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 4:09:23 PM EDT
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TPM was also told they could not engrave the barrel either. They are also free to bypass the IOI and get a variance. |
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Posted: 5/10/2017 11:45:54 PM EDT
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I engrave the barrel on my HKs and my regulation required maker markings are clearly visible with the handguard installed. All you have to do is flip the gun over and the maker markings are clearly visible to even a trained chimp....no disassembly required.
What is the ATFs next plan.... to tell HK that they cant engrave the serial number or model on the top rib anymore because somebody could install an optic and the claw mount covers them up? |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 8:08:18 AM EDT
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What is the ATFs next plan.... to tell HK that they cant engrave the serial number or model on the top rib anymore because somebody could install an optic and the claw mount covers them up? The regulation does NOT require the MFG to mark it in a location the end user cannot cover with a accessory. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 10:51:56 AM EDT
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The regulation requires the MFG to mark it in a conspicuous location. The MFG does that. The regulation does NOT require the MFG to mark it in a location the end user cannot cover with a accessory. That was somewhat my point. It would seem that TPM could mark the barrel in a conspicuous location and finish the build with a vented handguard so that the engraving is clearly/conspicuously visible when it leaves their possession as the maker/manufacturer. Its not their responsibility if the end user wants to replace the handguard "accessory" with a different version down the road that may or may not cover the markings. I fail to see how that scenario is different than an end user who installs a optics/claw mount and covers the rib markings. Its not like HK couldnt foresee this happening as they make the referenced optic mount and build in claw mount tabs on the receiver specifically for this reason. (vs. say remington who doesnt manufacture a cartridge side saddle accessory for their 870s which also covers the markings when installed) For their clone builds it seems like a non-issue.... just mark up the receiver. However, if doing a German HK94 conversion and the customer doenst want the receiver marked up, than mark the barrel and provide the gun back to the customer with a vented handguard and then leave it up to the end user to decide if they want to replace the $30 accessory with the component of their choosing. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 10:59:09 AM EDT
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It would seem that TPM could mark the barrel in a conspicuous location and finish the build with a vented handguard so that the engraving is clearly/conspicuously visible when it leaves their possession as the maker/manufacturer. |
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Posted: 5/11/2017 4:22:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2017 7:59:14 PM EDT
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You can abreviate Florida
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Posted: 6/4/2017 1:03:44 AM EDT
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I just don't see any reason not to engrave in the stock grooves.
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Posted: 6/5/2017 8:27:56 AM EDT
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Engrave the barrel.
When you burn up the barrel and replace it, there are no regulations or laws mandating you re-engrave the barrel again. Example, M1 garands that were imported by blue sky. People have replaced worn barrels with new ones and they do not engrave the original import engravings. These fall under the same regs as a firearm maker. |
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Posted: 6/5/2017 8:45:04 AM EDT
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Engrave the barrel. When you burn up the barrel and replace it, there are no regulations or laws mandating you re-engrave the barrel again. Example, M1 garands that were imported by blue sky. People have replaced worn barrels with new ones and they do not engrave the original import engravings. These fall under the same regs as a firearm maker. |
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Posted: 6/5/2017 2:56:34 PM EDT
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Engrave the barrel. When you burn up the barrel and replace it, there are no regulations or laws mandating you re-engrave the barrel again. Example, M1 garands that were imported by blue sky. People have replaced worn barrels with new ones and they do not engrave the original import engravings. These fall under the same regs as a firearm maker. You can NOT alter or destroy the serial number on a title 1 weapon. There is a difference. |
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Posted: 6/5/2017 2:57:23 PM EDT
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I'm planning on swapping the barrel to a three lug, so I should "engrave the old barrel" before having a gunsmith swap it to the new barrel? |
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