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Posted: 3/17/2017 5:09:27 PM EDT

When 41F date was looming, I decided to Eform 1 a SBR. I created and filed said form on the 4 Jul 2016. My submitted date for this form is 27 Jul 2016. Curious if this will cause my eform to be kicked because it falls after 41F took affect.

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Posted: 3/17/2017 5:16:57 PM EDT

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what do you mean by "filed"? did you pay on 7/4?

Posted: 3/17/2017 5:35:06 PM EDT

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I'd have to look up when my credit card was charged.

Eforms have a created date and submitted date. I filed the eform on the 4th. Under submitted date, it says the 27th.

My two previous eform1s were in Jan 2016. Both filed on the same day, only minutes apart, but weeks later submitted dates.

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what do you mean by "filed"? did you pay on 7/4?

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UPDATEcredit card charged on 5 Jul

Posted: 3/17/2017 8:55:43 PM EDT

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It only had to be postmarked prior to 7/13/16.

If it wasn't, they sent most of them back soon after they were received.

Posted: 3/18/2017 4:19:09 AM EDT

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It only had to be postmarked prior to 7/13/16.

If it wasn't, they sent most of them back soon after they were received.

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No postmark on an efile amigo.

At any rate, I'm still not 100% sure on the wording of the key factor here. You paid, did you submit the eforms on 7/5 as well? If so, your good to go. If you waited to clock the file submit button until late July, you're SOL most likely.

Posted: 3/18/2017 8:39:52 AM EDT

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No postmark on an efile amigo.

At any rate, I'm still not 100% sure on the wording of the key factor here. You paid, did you submit the eforms on 7/5 as well? If so, your good to go. If you waited to clock the file submit button until late July, you're SOL most likely.

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You'd think I'd have noticed him say eForms about a half-dozen times.

I saw the different dates and assumed paper for whatever reason.

OP...it was fairly common to sign & submit (and pay) and the form go into Pending Research instead of Submitted/In Process status. ATF said that wouldn't be an issue in regards to 41F. You wouldn't have a Submitted date until the form moved from PR to S/IP. The couple I had (a couple years ago) only took a day or two to move over, but that time grew to a couple weeks and even a month or more for some.

So, seeing your spread of dates isn't a surprise...and having the CC charged on 7/5 says you're good...unless you paid and forgot to hit Sign & Submit, and figured that out a couple weeks later.

Posted: 3/18/2017 4:15:09 PM EDT

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I did hit submit on the 5 Jul. I guess I'm being a nervous nellie.

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So, seeing your spread of dates isn't a surprise...and having the CC charged on 7/5 says you're good...unless you paid and forgot to hit Sign & Submit, and figured that out a couple weeks later.

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Posted: 3/19/2017 11:40:56 AM EDT

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FWIW I have eFiled Form1 cans in this same situation - I created and submitted them on 6/30 but because I had new model names they don't show as submitted until 7/20 - after I received an email about them changing state. So mine show "Created" 6/30 and "Submitted" 7/20 - I emailed and was told explicitly that the original pre-41F submission was sufficient and they would be processed under pre-41F rules despite a "Submitted" date showing online as post-41F.

I've not gotten them back yet of course, so no warrantees express or implied....

Posted: 3/19/2017 3:57:00 PM EDT

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When 41F date was looming, I decided to Eform 1 a SBR. I created and filed said form on the 4 Jul 2016. My submitted date for this form is 27 Jul 2016. Curious if this will cause my eform to be kicked because it falls after 41F took affect.

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Congrats on the filing.

I'm in the EXACT same bucket as you. eFiled the form 1 on Jul 4, card charged Jul 5, then went into pending research until Jul 27 when the application was changed to submitted/in process. Mine was on a new model gun; HK SP5K. The pull-down menu when I filed didn't have that model listed which is why the delay occurred.

I followed up with the "ask ATF" and got a reply saying pre-41F applied. That's the good news.

Bad news is the internal control number assigned is based on Jul 27, so I'm stuck behind all the last minute deadline beaters up through Jul 13.

My control number is 3614xx, so my best guess is now mid to late-May to get the stamp. What did you get as a control number?

Posted: 3/20/2017 5:59:38 PM EDT

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I don't have an internal control number

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My control number is 3614xx, so my best guess is now mid to late-May to get the stamp. What did you get as a control number?

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Posted: 3/20/2017 6:23:52 PM EDT

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thats because you evidently didn't provide one...but the control number there talking about is the permit number, which will (or at least should, as I have one that didn't) show as a control number on the approved form

Posted: 3/20/2017 6:56:19 PM EDT

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My permit number is 20163614YY

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thats because you evidently didn't provide one...but the control number there talking about is the permit number, which will (or at least should, as I have one that didn't) show as a control number on the approved form

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Posted: 3/20/2017 11:05:02 PM EDT

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Ouch, that sucks.

I filed one on 7/7 and it shows submitted on 7/8 and my number is 2016325XXX

Because of that delay of yours, look how high your number went up.

Posted: 3/21/2017 12:15:03 PM EDT

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Didn't EFile go down after the new rule went in effect.

I'm pretty sure that if your efile is in process, you got it in before the cutoff and will be ok as far as the date is concerned

Posted: 3/22/2017 12:08:06 AM EDT

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thats because you evidently didn't provide one...but the control number there talking about is the permit number, which will (or at least should, as I have one that didn't) show as a control number on the approved form

Yup. 40,000 numbers later. They're banging through anywhere from 600 to 850 applications per day depending on the sampling dates.

That's why I'm giving it a swag of May 20 to 30 for ours to bubble up. Inmyshadow and I are within a the same batch of a hundred apps.

Cheer up! At least my Form 4 came in today on a can from late June.

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