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Link Posted: 6/14/2015 10:12:23 AM EDT
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I think a lot of you guys confuse "legal" with "constitutional".

They are not the same thing.

It used to be the constitution was the supreme law of the land, but there are thousands of unconstitutional laws on the books today - maybe millions. Sadly, they must each be challenged & defeated, individually.

ETA: Spelling
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As far as USC goes, there's between 3,000 and 4,000

This thread is turning into red lasers, blue lasers, and knowing.
Link Posted: 6/15/2015 12:09:08 PM EDT
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Come back with a warrant.
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I would have went this route, ESPECIALL on private property.

The judge or the BATFE are the only ones who see stamps.
You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride and all
Link Posted: 6/15/2015 5:43:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/15/2015 11:03:47 PM EDT
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There's no probable cause to believe any laws were broken. Even if noise ordinances were being broken, there still isn't justification to ask for NFA paperwork.

At a minimum, police would have to see FA parts. I don't believe high rates of fire is enough for anyone to determine FA vs rapid trigger pulls, bump firing or slide fire type devices.

Is it easier to show your Form 4s and keep shooting? Absolutely.

Is there probable cause to believe any laws were broken? No way.

Even at the "Reasonable Suspicion" standard, a patrol officer is going to have a hard time justifying asking for NFA paperwork based on the sound of gunfire alone, especially on private property in an area where the discharge of firearms is allowed.

What block in the academy teaches recruits to identify automatic fire and request ATF transfer paperwork?
Link Posted: 6/16/2015 6:19:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/16/2015 8:43:38 AM EDT
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Our local LEO's here are very cool with NFA.  Most of them just want to shoot mine.
Link Posted: 6/16/2015 12:25:23 PM EDT
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I would have went this route, ESPECIALL on private property.

The judge or the BATFE are the only ones who see stamps.
You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride and all
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Come back with a warrant.

I would have went this route, ESPECIALL on private property.

The judge or the BATFE are the only ones who see stamps.
You can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride and all


In my state, there is a specific state law outlawing NFA items unless you have federal permission.

Theoretically, that gives cops a reason to ask for paperwork, at least if they have RAS.

Az
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