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Posted: 4/26/2015 12:58:31 AM EDT
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Mossberg cranks out a ton of factory pistol-gripped-only shotguns and AOWs.
OTOH, the Remington 870's factory AOWs are very rare, and priced accordingly. The few I've seen are priced in the $800-$1k range. If you find a source for cheap Remington 870 AOWs, please IM me. 
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Posted: 4/26/2015 1:05:40 AM EDT
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Mossberg cranks out a ton of factory pistol-gripped-only shotguns and AOWs. OTOH, the Remington 870's factory AOWs are very rare, and priced accordingly. The few I've seen are priced in the $800-$1k range. If you find a source for cheap Remington 870 AOWs, please IM me. Sounds like Remington needs to get their shit together. 
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Posted: 4/26/2015 5:48:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like Remington needs to get their shit together. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mossberg cranks out a ton of factory pistol-gripped-only shotguns and AOWs. OTOH, the Remington 870's factory AOWs are very rare, and priced accordingly. The few I've seen are priced in the $800-$1k range. If you find a source for cheap Remington 870 AOWs, please IM me. Sounds like Remington needs to get their shit together. OP have you shot a AOW "shotgun type weapon"? Just get a SBS, trust me. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 6:29:24 PM EDT
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I have one. They're not worth it. Not fun, not practical, not pleasant to shoot, not useful for much.
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Posted: 4/26/2015 7:29:04 PM EDT
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OP have you shot a AOW "shotgun type weapon"? Just get a SBS, trust me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mossberg cranks out a ton of factory pistol-gripped-only shotguns and AOWs. OTOH, the Remington 870's factory AOWs are very rare, and priced accordingly. The few I've seen are priced in the $800-$1k range. If you find a source for cheap Remington 870 AOWs, please IM me. Sounds like Remington needs to get their shit together. OP have you shot a AOW "shotgun type weapon"? Just get a SBS, trust me. Yes, I have shot an AOW as well as 18" pistol gripped shotguns. I've got two combat style shotguns with 18" barrels, one 1970s Wingmaster Police with 4 shot tube and factory wood and a tricked out Wingmaster police with side saddle, 7 shot tube, Knoxx SpecOps and Surefire forend. I haven't shot either one in several years. I just don't have much interest in the shotgun as a shoulder fired fighting gun any more. I want a 12-13" barreled AOW with a Knoxx breacher grip. I guess I'll just bite he bullet and get a Mossberg if I have to but I'd really prefer an 870. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 7:39:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I have shot an AOW as well as 18" pistol gripped shotguns. I've got two combat style shotguns with 18" barrels, one 1970s Wingmaster Police with 4 shot tube and factory wood and a tricked out Wingmaster police with side saddle, 7 shot tube, Knoxx SpecOps and Surefire forend. I haven't shot either one in several years. I just don't have much interest in the shotgun as a shoulder fired fighting gun any more. I want a 12-13" barreled AOW with a Knoxx breacher grip. I guess I'll just bite he bullet and get a Mossberg if I have to but I'd really prefer an 870. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mossberg cranks out a ton of factory pistol-gripped-only shotguns and AOWs. OTOH, the Remington 870's factory AOWs are very rare, and priced accordingly. The few I've seen are priced in the $800-$1k range. If you find a source for cheap Remington 870 AOWs, please IM me. Sounds like Remington needs to get their shit together. OP have you shot a AOW "shotgun type weapon"? Just get a SBS, trust me. Yes, I have shot an AOW as well as 18" pistol gripped shotguns. I've got two combat style shotguns with 18" barrels, one 1970s Wingmaster Police with 4 shot tube and factory wood and a tricked out Wingmaster police with side saddle, 7 shot tube, Knoxx SpecOps and Surefire forend. I haven't shot either one in several years. I just don't have much interest in the shotgun as a shoulder fired fighting gun any more. I want a 12-13" barreled AOW with a Knoxx breacher grip. I guess I'll just bite he bullet and get a Mossberg if I have to but I'd really prefer an 870. People told me not to get my 590a1 AOW for $499 NIB, I did not listen. I just do not like it. I bought it shot it a few times and bought a 590a1 SBS for $250 police trade in. Love it. I just bought another 18" 590a1 used with a lot of add ons for $240. |
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Posted: 4/26/2015 10:09:47 PM EDT
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This thread is funny. Only now do I see folks talking about AOW's are not cool and how they aren't very fun to shoot. I should've known but it was only after I bought mine (Mossberg590a1 14") that people started to say "those suck to shoot", they were right they do suck to shoot, which is why I named mine "the Bitch"
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Posted: 5/1/2015 9:47:58 AM EDT
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Remington released the MCS kit to the civilian market, and it is advertised as a SBS ($200 tax), but it can be configured from the kit as an AWO, and there is also an underbarrel adapter to attach it to an AR, which obviousle requires removal of the stock.
Can any registered SBS be converted to an AOW and back without running afoul of the NFA law? |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 10:15:26 AM EDT
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Remington released the MCS kit to the civilian market, and it is advertised as a SBS ($200 tax), but it can be configured from the kit as an AWO, and there is also an underbarrel adapter to attach it to an AR, which obviousle requires removal of the stock. Can any registered SBS be converted to an AOW and back without running afoul of the NFA law? As I understand it, if you have a SBS stamp ($200) you can configure your shotgun anyway you want. But if you have a AOW stamp ($5) you must never put a shoulder stock on it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2015 12:31:17 PM EDT
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I have one. They're not worth it. Not fun, not practical, not pleasant to shoot, not useful for much. Funny, mine is both fun and worth it. 
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Posted: 5/2/2015 2:21:45 AM EDT
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SBS > AOW all day and twice on Sunday
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Posted: 5/2/2015 6:23:18 AM EDT
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I have one. They're not worth it. Not fun, not practical, not pleasant to shoot, not useful for much. But they do piss liberals off, and a lot of people in our government don't want me to own one. That in it's self makes owning a legal SBS worth it to me. |
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Posted: 5/2/2015 8:36:09 PM EDT
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SBS>AOW, but I enjoy mine!
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Posted: 5/2/2015 10:31:42 PM EDT
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Can any registered SBS be converted to an AOW and back without running afoul of the NFA law? Well, no. You aren't actually converting an SBS>AOW>SBS..........it's an SBS the entire time. An SBS can be configured as a pistol grip only or a shoulder stocked short bbl shotgun.. The NFA has definitions of what constitutes an SBR/SBS/AOW/DD/MG. An AOW firearm that expels a shotgun shell cannot have a shoulder stock. (that would make it an SBS) |
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Posted: 5/3/2015 9:06:54 PM EDT
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Well, no. You aren't actually converting an SBS>AOW>SBS..........it's an SBS the entire time. An SBS can be configured as a pistol grip only or a shoulder stocked short bbl shotgun.. The NFA has definitions of what constitutes an SBR/SBS/AOW/DD/MG. An AOW firearm that expels a shotgun shell cannot have a shoulder stock. (that would make it an SBS) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can any registered SBS be converted to an AOW and back without running afoul of the NFA law? Well, no. You aren't actually converting an SBS>AOW>SBS..........it's an SBS the entire time. An SBS can be configured as a pistol grip only or a shoulder stocked short bbl shotgun.. The NFA has definitions of what constitutes an SBR/SBS/AOW/DD/MG. An AOW firearm that expels a shotgun shell cannot have a shoulder stock. (that would make it an SBS) Exactly. |
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Posted: 5/3/2015 9:18:31 PM EDT
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Safety Harbor and Serbu both offer 870 based AOWs. I bought a used Safety Harbor on this forum for 550 shipped if I remember right. Deals are out there but not super common. Local shop has a old factory 870 AOW that looks like a witness protection gun but I haven't looked real closely at it and don't know those guns well.
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Posted: 5/4/2015 3:30:41 PM EDT
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I have a factory Remington AOW 870 MCS breacher in addition to an SOT built 14" Mossberg 500. I have them as in Indiana until July 1st (bill was just passed and signed) SBS's are illegal.
I got the Remington from Capitol Armory. To all that say they suck, mine are lots of fun for what they are. Wicked fun for a $5 stamp. Now that I can (in a couple months) build an SBS, I will be. I've got at least one 870 that's getting shortened as well as a Vepr 12. The AOW's will stay what they are. ETA - I put the Shockwave "witness protection" grip on as it came with a Knoxx pistol grip. The Shockwave is much nicer to shoot and also looks WAY better! I also stuck a Shockwave on my Mossberg. |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 4:08:24 PM EDT
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I have a factory Remington AOW 870 MCS breacher in addition to an SOT built 14" Mossberg 500. I have them as in Indiana until July 1st (bill was just passed and signed) SBS's are illegal. <a href="http://s483.photobucket.com/user/compuvette/media/2258d561cb203323ad4256006e72e80b_zps421xhd5j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/compuvette/2258d561cb203323ad4256006e72e80b_zps421xhd5j.jpg</a> I got the Remington from Capitol Armory. To all that say they suck, mine are lots of fun for what they are. Wicked fun for a $5 stamp. Now that I can (in a couple months) build an SBS, I will be. I've got at least one 870 that's getting shortened as well as a Vepr 12. The AOW's will stay what they are. ETA - I put the Shockwave "witness protection" grip on as it came with a Knoxx pistol grip. The Shockwave is much nicer to shoot and also looks WAY better! I also stuck a Shockwave on my Mossberg. I have the same as above, but with the Speedfeed birdshead grip. I love it. It is fun to shoot and puts a smile like nothing else not full auto. |
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Posted: 5/6/2015 10:14:49 PM EDT
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i like my Serbu Super Short on a REM870 receiver. the Hogue Tamer is the best grip, IMO.
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Posted: 5/6/2015 11:37:50 PM EDT
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i like my Serbu Super Short on a REM870 receiver. the Hogue Tamer is the best grip, IMO. Have you shot one of the straight back grips like the speedfeed? Mine has the hard plastic factory choate and I dont even want to shoot it without swapping it out |
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Posted: 5/7/2015 3:26:02 PM EDT
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I'm thinking about SBSing my 870.
Where can you find good 12" or 14" aftermarket barrels? I know factory SBS barrels are very rare in the civilian market. What barrel length will be flush with the factory 5-shot 870 mag tube? |
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Posted: 5/7/2015 5:34:22 PM EDT
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I'm thinking about SBSing my 870. Where can you find good 12" or 14" aftermarket barrels? I know factory SBS barrels are very rare in the civilian market. What barrel length will be flush with the factory 5-shot 870 mag tube? 14" Remington barrels are pretty common, just check around. Rem makes a 12" MCS barrel, but you'll never find one separate from the MCS. |
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Posted: 5/7/2015 10:33:05 PM EDT
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Have you shot one of the straight back grips like the speedfeed? Mine has the hard plastic factory choate and I dont even want to shoot it without swapping it out Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i like my Serbu Super Short on a REM870 receiver. the Hogue Tamer is the best grip, IMO. Have you shot one of the straight back grips like the speedfeed? Mine has the hard plastic factory choate and I dont even want to shoot it without swapping it out no, i have not shot the speedfeed or anything like it. i shot turkey magnums once out of the stock grip.... once and never again. with the Hogue, its like a billion times better. people also like other grips, but i can't remember what those are at the moment. |
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