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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:43:55 PM EDT
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If Form 4's were that fast, I'd be broke.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:22:20 PM EDT
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Glad to hear that. I submitted 2 form 1's on 11/19/14. With any kind of luck I may have stamps by Christmas.
Now if the suppressors ever get here...... |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 11:47:06 PM EDT
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did 2 form 1's on 11-7 one approved today,12-17 and the other was denied because i used SBR#$%@ as the serial number. the examiner said i should not have used the the "SBR" but it looked like it was part of the number. oh well she said i can resubmit and she would try to expedite it.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:05:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: did 2 form 1's on 11-7 one approved today,12-17 and the other was denied because i used SBR#$%@ as the serial number. the examiner said i should not have used the the "SBR" but it looked like it was part of the number. oh well she said i can resubmit and she would try to expedite it. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:28:24 AM EDT
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Spikes has a series of lowers with serial numbers that start with SBR. I would email Ted Cutter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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did 2 form 1's on 11-7 one approved today,12-17 and the other was denied because i used SBR#$%@ as the serial number. the examiner said i should not have used the the "SBR" but it looked like it was part of the number. oh well she said i can resubmit and she would try to expedite it. i e-mailed a picture of the lower to the examiner so i should hear something in the morning. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:33:49 AM EDT
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i e-mailed a picture of the lower to the examiner so i should hear something in the morning. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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did 2 form 1's on 11-7 one approved today,12-17 and the other was denied because i used SBR#$%@ as the serial number. the examiner said i should not have used the the "SBR" but it looked like it was part of the number. oh well she said i can resubmit and she would try to expedite it. i e-mailed a picture of the lower to the examiner so i should hear something in the morning. This is unbelievable...the number of times this is happening. I have one of these lowers, and my approved (paper) form has the SBR prefix. SBR is absolutely part of the Serial Number. One of the guys from Spikes actually called an examiner not too long ago to straighten this out. They wouldn't have questioned it if it was SAR or SCR, but they incorrectly assume the applicant is meaning Short Barreled Rifle. Reality is it stands for Spike's Battle Rifle. I know of one person on here that got it approved without the SBR prefix. The problem is that serial number doesn't exist. It must include the prefix. Other have gotten them approved with the prefix. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:53:56 AM EDT
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i will let you know what happens tomorrow.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:11:39 AM EDT
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i will let you know what happens tomorrow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
i will let you know what happens tomorrow. Here are the posts from the guy (on a different forum) that got Spike's involved: Quoted:
I just talked to a gentleman from spikes tactical named John D. And he assures me that SBR is apart of the serial number. I gave him my info and the examiners name and he is going to contact them and see what they say. Quoted:
Just got off phone with John D and he talked to the ATF and explained the problem. The ATF was wrong and I still have to resubmit my form 1 |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:39:01 AM EDT
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she was saying the "SBR" was the problem but i was just looking at the form and i also entered the serial number wrong. so i am partly to the blame. sent a new e-mail showing the serial # and pointing out my goof also. sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you just are. i feel a little embarrassed but hey i outed myself on a public forum. so i will have to re-submit anyway but i am going to wait for clarification on the number/SBR deal.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 9:56:49 AM EDT
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she was saying the "SBR" was the problem but i was just looking at the form and i also entered the serial number wrong. so i am partly to the blame. sent a new e-mail showing the serial # and pointing out my goof also. sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you just are. i feel a little embarrassed but hey i outed myself on a public forum. so i will have to re-submit anyway but i am going to wait for clarification on the number/SBR deal.
Not too bad. Once you resubmit, you can probably get approved within 48 hours by Ted. They need to get this junk straightened out. Because technically, if they make you submit without the SBR prefix, and you build the firearm, you have an SBR that doesn't match the paperwork...thus a $250K/10-year unregistered weapon. I see their side of it...as the SBR looks positioning similar to the CAL/MOD below it. Again, if it was any other three letters it wouldn't be questioned, only because you're making an SBR do they think you're doing something wrong. I may go ahead and send an email to Gary & Ted as a heads up about this, and maybe they can notify the examiners & research assistants. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 9:58:47 AM EDT
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One of mine is showing up in the approved folder but without a stamp
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Posted: 12/18/2014 10:10:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of mine is showing up in the approved folder but without a stamp |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 11:21:06 AM EDT
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submitted 11-13-14 approved 12-17-14 wish form 4's would go that fast I assume this was e-filed? |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 1:45:26 PM EDT
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Not too bad. Once you resubmit, you can probably get approved within 48 hours by Ted. They need to get this junk straightened out. Because technically, if they make you submit without the SBR prefix, and you build the firearm, you have an SBR that doesn't match the paperwork...thus a $250K/10-year unregistered weapon. I see their side of it...as the SBR looks positioning similar to the CAL/MOD below it. Again, if it was any other three letters it wouldn't be questioned, only because you're making an SBR do they think you're doing something wrong. I may go ahead and send an email to Gary & Ted as a heads up about this, and maybe they can notify the examiners & research assistants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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she was saying the "SBR" was the problem but i was just looking at the form and i also entered the serial number wrong. so i am partly to the blame. sent a new e-mail showing the serial # and pointing out my goof also. sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you just are. i feel a little embarrassed but hey i outed myself on a public forum. so i will have to re-submit anyway but i am going to wait for clarification on the number/SBR deal.
Not too bad. Once you resubmit, you can probably get approved within 48 hours by Ted. They need to get this junk straightened out. Because technically, if they make you submit without the SBR prefix, and you build the firearm, you have an SBR that doesn't match the paperwork...thus a $250K/10-year unregistered weapon. I see their side of it...as the SBR looks positioning similar to the CAL/MOD below it. Again, if it was any other three letters it wouldn't be questioned, only because you're making an SBR do they think you're doing something wrong. I may go ahead and send an email to Gary & Ted as a heads up about this, and maybe they can notify the examiners & research assistants. As info... Sent an email to Ted, Gary and Kimberly. Gary replied to say "thanks" and that he forwarded the info to the NFA Branch Chief. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:02:12 PM EDT
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As info... Sent an email to Ted, Gary and Kimberly. Gary replied to say "thanks" and that he forwarded the info to the NFA Branch Chief. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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she was saying the "SBR" was the problem but i was just looking at the form and i also entered the serial number wrong. so i am partly to the blame. sent a new e-mail showing the serial # and pointing out my goof also. sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you just are. i feel a little embarrassed but hey i outed myself on a public forum. so i will have to re-submit anyway but i am going to wait for clarification on the number/SBR deal.
Not too bad. Once you resubmit, you can probably get approved within 48 hours by Ted. They need to get this junk straightened out. Because technically, if they make you submit without the SBR prefix, and you build the firearm, you have an SBR that doesn't match the paperwork...thus a $250K/10-year unregistered weapon. I see their side of it...as the SBR looks positioning similar to the CAL/MOD below it. Again, if it was any other three letters it wouldn't be questioned, only because you're making an SBR do they think you're doing something wrong. I may go ahead and send an email to Gary & Ted as a heads up about this, and maybe they can notify the examiners & research assistants. As info... Sent an email to Ted, Gary and Kimberly. Gary replied to say "thanks" and that he forwarded the info to the NFA Branch Chief. well examiner sent an e-mail saying the prefix "SBR" was indeed part of the serial number and i fessed up to her that i had also typed in the serial number wrong resubmitted and she forwarded it to her supervisor to work out the bugs. there was a problem with the model # i clicked on st-15 and it populated SBR. this lower is becoming a headache. if this one can't or won't get fixed i may just use a different lower and start at the beginning. i have a couple that are just sitting in the safe wanting to be built.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:05:05 PM EDT
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never efiled before..i guess the thing they send you in a pdf is the thing i should print and carry with me?
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Posted: 12/18/2014 9:04:16 PM EDT
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never efiled before..i guess the thing they send you in a pdf is the thing i should print and carry with me? Yes. It should have the digital stamp, the Approved box checked and the examiner's signature. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 10:03:54 AM EDT
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Heard back from Ted this morning...he said:
Good Morning - Thank you for the information, will review our process to ensure quality consistent... Respectfully, |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 11:04:26 AM EDT
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Heard back from Ted this morning...he said: Good Morning - Thank you for the information, will review our process to ensure quality consistent... Respectfully, Some of his email replies sound like a somalian scam letter. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 11:06:57 AM EDT
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Some of his email replies sound like a somalian scam letter. Yeah...I replied to that one, and the one I got back was similar. Even though it's one sentence, I had to read it a couple times. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 5:22:15 PM EDT
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Yes. It should have the digital stamp, the Approved box checked and the examiner's signature. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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never efiled before..i guess the thing they send you in a pdf is the thing i should print and carry with me? Yes. It should have the digital stamp, the Approved box checked and the examiner's signature. it does..printed and put in my wallet..thanks |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 5:35:18 PM EDT
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My E-file Form 1 was approved 12/18 but the approved form and stamp are no where to be found. It shows approved in the E-forms but when I view the form it displays the submitted form not the approved one
Have E-mail in to Gary S and a VM into Jason Bowers who I believe is my examiner. Mary at the NFA branch confirmed it was approved. I think everyone is on Christmas vacation....agghhh |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 5:41:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My E-file Form 1 was approved 12/18 but the approved form and stamp are no where to be found. It shows approved in the E-forms but when I view the form it displays the submitted form not the approved one Have E-mail in to Gary S and a VM into Jason Bowers who I believe is my examiner. Mary at the NFA branch confirmed it was approved. I think everyone is on Christmas vacation....agghhh |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 9:38:07 PM EDT
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well examiner sent an e-mail saying the prefix "SBR" was indeed part of the serial number and i fessed up to her that i had also typed in the serial number wrong resubmitted and she forwarded it to her supervisor to work out the bugs. there was a problem with the model # i clicked on st-15 and it populated SBR. this lower is becoming a headache. if this one can't or won't get fixed i may just use a different lower and start at the beginning. i have a couple that are just sitting in the safe wanting to be built.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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she was saying the "SBR" was the problem but i was just looking at the form and i also entered the serial number wrong. so i am partly to the blame. sent a new e-mail showing the serial # and pointing out my goof also. sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you just are. i feel a little embarrassed but hey i outed myself on a public forum. so i will have to re-submit anyway but i am going to wait for clarification on the number/SBR deal.
Not too bad. Once you resubmit, you can probably get approved within 48 hours by Ted. They need to get this junk straightened out. Because technically, if they make you submit without the SBR prefix, and you build the firearm, you have an SBR that doesn't match the paperwork...thus a $250K/10-year unregistered weapon. I see their side of it...as the SBR looks positioning similar to the CAL/MOD below it. Again, if it was any other three letters it wouldn't be questioned, only because you're making an SBR do they think you're doing something wrong. I may go ahead and send an email to Gary & Ted as a heads up about this, and maybe they can notify the examiners & research assistants. As info... Sent an email to Ted, Gary and Kimberly. Gary replied to say "thanks" and that he forwarded the info to the NFA Branch Chief. well examiner sent an e-mail saying the prefix "SBR" was indeed part of the serial number and i fessed up to her that i had also typed in the serial number wrong resubmitted and she forwarded it to her supervisor to work out the bugs. there was a problem with the model # i clicked on st-15 and it populated SBR. this lower is becoming a headache. if this one can't or won't get fixed i may just use a different lower and start at the beginning. i have a couple that are just sitting in the safe wanting to be built.all is well here! ted did get me through the craziness! received approval this morning. i did email H. Thompson the original examiner and told her i really appreciated the help and all the work they all did for me. Lesson learned from this...attach a pic of the lowers serial number. |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 9:40:38 PM EDT
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all is well here! ted did get me through the craziness! received approval this morning. i did email H. Thompson the original examiner and told her i really appreciated the help and all the work they all did for me. Lesson learned from this...attach a pic of the lowers serial number. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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she was saying the "SBR" was the problem but i was just looking at the form and i also entered the serial number wrong. so i am partly to the blame. sent a new e-mail showing the serial # and pointing out my goof also. sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you just are. i feel a little embarrassed but hey i outed myself on a public forum. so i will have to re-submit anyway but i am going to wait for clarification on the number/SBR deal.
Not too bad. Once you resubmit, you can probably get approved within 48 hours by Ted. They need to get this junk straightened out. Because technically, if they make you submit without the SBR prefix, and you build the firearm, you have an SBR that doesn't match the paperwork...thus a $250K/10-year unregistered weapon. I see their side of it...as the SBR looks positioning similar to the CAL/MOD below it. Again, if it was any other three letters it wouldn't be questioned, only because you're making an SBR do they think you're doing something wrong. I may go ahead and send an email to Gary & Ted as a heads up about this, and maybe they can notify the examiners & research assistants. As info... Sent an email to Ted, Gary and Kimberly. Gary replied to say "thanks" and that he forwarded the info to the NFA Branch Chief. well examiner sent an e-mail saying the prefix "SBR" was indeed part of the serial number and i fessed up to her that i had also typed in the serial number wrong resubmitted and she forwarded it to her supervisor to work out the bugs. there was a problem with the model # i clicked on st-15 and it populated SBR. this lower is becoming a headache. if this one can't or won't get fixed i may just use a different lower and start at the beginning. i have a couple that are just sitting in the safe wanting to be built.all is well here! ted did get me through the craziness! received approval this morning. i did email H. Thompson the original examiner and told her i really appreciated the help and all the work they all did for me. Lesson learned from this...attach a pic of the lowers serial number. E-MAIL TO EXAMINER.......Hi Heather, I just want say thank you for the help this week with my form 1 fiasco. A person hears horror stories about working with the "ATF" but I have to say the last couple months have been an eye opener. Every person in the ATF that I have spoken to or E-mailed has been super. You were especially helpful and a pleasure to work with. Again,thank you very much and have a great holiday and new year.......David McClendon |
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Posted: 12/19/2014 9:54:29 PM EDT
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Send Ted Clutter an email, he will fix it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My E-file Form 1 was approved 12/18 but the approved form and stamp are no where to be found. It shows approved in the E-forms but when I view the form it displays the submitted form not the approved one
Have E-mail in to Gary S and a VM into Jason Bowers who I believe is my examiner. Mary at the NFA branch confirmed it was approved. I think everyone is on Christmas vacation....agghhh Email sent, I'm hoping he's working Monday and Tuesday... |
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Posted: 12/20/2014 1:49:24 AM EDT
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Approved form showed up at 11:04 tonight.. Bravo Mr Clutter, you rock! 32 days to approval, 34 to get stamp in hand.
Now we need Form 4's in the e-forms system. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 5:04:14 PM EDT
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Ill add to this Spikes "SBR" issue. i had a form 1 E-file approved in October. when i submitted the SN i put SBR in the prefix (it is part of the SN) the form 1 came back approved but without the SBR in the serial number.
i emailed the ask the experts on that within the day of the approval on the error, and heard no response. i also mailed in a correction to the NFA branch, but when i called they said they had not received it (this was in early December.) so i mailed in a second one and expecting the longer wait for correction. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 5:17:00 PM EDT
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If Form 4's were that fast, I'd be broke. Thats the truth truf |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 4:04:01 PM EDT
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I mailed my Form in like a dummy, but I couldn't get my NFA Trust to load on the E Form. I realized that I only sent in one copy of the Form and not in duplicate. I emailed Ted about it and his response was:
Good Morning – Simply MAIL the duplicate Form to the address BELOW, will include as part of the file… 201551859 VA32203 LW****** Thank you cooperation, and compliance… Semper Fi, He relied back to me at 0620 on a Sunday. I emailed him the Saturday night before. I mailed in the duplicate Form 1 and print out of the email correspondent today priority mail. Hopefully I will get the approval within a month |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 9:34:22 AM EDT
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Ill add to this Spikes "SBR" issue. i had a form 1 E-file approved in October. when i submitted the SN i put SBR in the prefix (it is part of the SN) the form 1 came back approved but without the SBR in the serial number. i emailed the ask the experts on that within the day of the approval on the error, and heard no response. i also mailed in a correction to the NFA branch, but when i called they said they had not received it (this was in early December.) so i mailed in a second one and expecting the longer wait for correction. Weird, the Form 1 I got back approved on 11/10 still had the "SBR" prefix in the serial number. |
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