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Posted: 9/9/2014 11:03:56 AM EDT
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IDENT: Pros - With IDENT, I simply built the lower as everything was perfect. IDENT's website allows you to do more online when ordering (describing the work you want done, payment via CC available online, etc.). Cons - I was quoted a 2-3 week turn-around. Overall - 9.9  Gray Laser: Pros - Complete transaction took 4 business days. Friendly CS. Sharp small font (though not as sharp as IDENT's). Cons - Engraving was not fully colored in and that there were some handling marks on the outside of the lower (i'm guessing where a piece of machinery clamped on to the lower). They call you when they get the lower and that's when you pay with CC over the phone (not cool if they get the lower while you are in a meeting-filled day). Feels more like a mom-n-pop business. Before Cleanup:   After hitting the lower with rubbing alcohol, and Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black/Cold water a couple of times.  Overall - 9.5 Keep in mind, both of these places are heads and shoulders above any other engraving work I have had done on a lower. I would not hesitate to use either one. The only reason I took the chance on Gray was b/c I accidentally got a lower approved in 2 days! |
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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:30:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoa! Is that engraving inside a FIXED triggerguard I see, or is it an optical illusion and/or I'm hallucinating? That's what I've been trying to find everywhere. I have a Balios-Lite receiver I need engraved, and I want it inside the fixed guard. This receiver is like jewelry to me, and I don't marks out in the open. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here are a few by Jeff at US Tactical in Oakton VA... https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5569/15178325621_07cb61178f.jpg Whoa! Is that engraving inside a FIXED triggerguard I see, or is it an optical illusion and/or I'm hallucinating? That's what I've been trying to find everywhere. I have a Balios-Lite receiver I need engraved, and I want it inside the fixed guard. This receiver is like jewelry to me, and I don't marks out in the open. |
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Posted: 9/10/2014 5:51:18 AM EDT
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Thank you Sir! I'll get a hold of them pronto. My quest may end victorious after all.
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Posted: 9/20/2014 6:45:59 PM EDT
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"Jeff" at US Tactical (in Oakton VA) engraved my lower today. He sent pics and some really cool videos of the work being done. I wish I could post the vids, but I can't without broadcasting my name and home location. FWIW, it was awesome looking!LOL
Here is a crappily edited pic while it was still in the white. 
He charges more ($80), but for great communication, good looking work, and getting it done under a fixed trigger guard (when no one else I could find would) --- it's an excellent deal in my book. Thank you again "jdhill" and Jeff.  
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Posted: 9/20/2014 9:27:04 PM EDT
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My sbr lower was done by thunderbeast arms in Cheyenne. I drove up there and they did it for $65 while I had lunch. I'm very pleased and referred a friend but apparently they're no longer doing engraving. It was neat to see suppressos getting made Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 9:41:01 PM EDT
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Got mine done by Veritas Machining here in Michigan : http://veritasmachiningllc.com/ . Took about 4 days total.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 4:42:36 AM EDT
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I went through Ident with my SBR. Sent it in first week of August and had it by the end of the third week of August. Not bad turn around considering I was told 4-6 weeks minimum.
Not to mention their customer support is great. They answered my emails within the same day. I will definitely be returning to them for my next SBR. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 10:47:46 AM EDT
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Got mine done by Veritas Machining here in Michigan : http://veritasmachiningllc.com/ . Took about 4 days total. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/d_clark/media/securedownload2_zpsd40d30a4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/securedownload2_zpsd40d30a4.jpg</a> Is that a flared magwell like a noveske? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:16:02 PM EDT
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Wanted to add another example to this thread. I sent my PS90 receiver to CS223 based on his prior work. He normally engraves them in a single line above the charging handle. However, I taped up the receiver trying to keep all the springs in place after I removed the barrel, and told him to just pick somewhere. He put it right above the SN. Looks great. (In case you haven't seen one up close, the finish on a PS90 looks like a kindergartner was in charge...mine has actual paint runs, or whatever the finish is).
The raw engraving: 
After reblackening: 
You can see some of the poor finish in those pics. Here's one shot I had of the runs in the finish: 
 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:46:30 PM EDT
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Is that a flared magwell like a noveske? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got mine done by Veritas Machining here in Michigan : http://veritasmachiningllc.com/ . Took about 4 days total. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/d_clark/media/securedownload2_zpsd40d30a4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/securedownload2_zpsd40d30a4.jpg</a> Is that a flared magwell like a noveske? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, is a Spikes lower. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:02:44 PM EDT
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How many prosecuted for not engraving?
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:30:38 PM EDT
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How many prosecuted for not engraving? I'm more interested in what you are actually charged with for not engraving. What about half engraving? i.e., the maker puts the name and city and serial number but forgets the caliber and model... |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 2:53:10 PM EDT
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I'm more interested in what you are actually charged with for not engraving. What about half engraving? i.e., the maker puts the name and city and serial number but forgets the caliber and model... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many prosecuted for not engraving? I'm more interested in what you are actually charged with for not engraving. What about half engraving? i.e., the maker puts the name and city and serial number but forgets the caliber and model... I can understand for missing caliber and all main information to identifying a weapon but what if one sbr a exisiting firearms? All the important information to match the weapon is on there. Original MFG, caliber, serial and gun model. I don't see why a sbr must have the new makers information. It's not like the atf doesn't know who that gun belonged to if anything serious happened. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 8:00:09 PM EDT
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I've been charging $40 for locals. and once the FFL arrives, it'll be the same for everyone else. I prefer to do 1/16" size just to make sure some agent having a bad day decides to be an arse....I also engrave deeper, about .012" so if you ever refinish the lower and it gets sand blasted, the laser engraving stays clean and crisp. I gotta -redo one of mine Wed and and reark a supressor so the info will be visible when I mount it....will post the pics....
I can engrave smaller then is comfortable to read. was doing some takedown pins today with 2.5 pt arial font....wow, the took a minute to focus on. |
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Posted: 11/11/2014 4:10:43 PM EDT
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I went with Veritas Machining, and I love their work. Phil is a great guy to deal with. $40 + shipping each way. It took about a week.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 12:12:01 AM EDT
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Why don't people just buy a really cheap barrel and engrave on that? I would do that rather than engrave on an expensive lower. :)
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Posted: 11/12/2014 12:23:53 AM EDT
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Why don't people just buy a really cheap barrel and engrave on that? I would do that rather than engrave on an expensive lower. :) I can think of two reasons: 1. I'd rather have a nice barrel and a cheap lower than vice versa. 2. Firearm has to always be marked, so those people that swap uppers would have to engrave every barrel. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 10:32:37 AM EDT
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Got mine done by Veritas Machining here in Michigan : http://veritasmachiningllc.com/ . Took about 4 days total. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/d_clark/media/securedownload2_zpsd40d30a4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/d_clark/securedownload2_zpsd40d30a4.jpg</a> That looks great. I like the font, adds a little class 
Is the lip of the magwell getting engraved kosher? Would the ATF try to screw you on it and say it's not plainly visible or whatever the language in the reg is? Also, $40 and shipping is a pretty good price. On down the line if (or more likely, when ) I decide to make another SBR, I think I'll try them out. Loved CS223's work, and call me a nerd, but I like that Times New Roman-looking font.
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Posted: 11/12/2014 10:41:19 AM EDT
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Is the lip of the magwell getting engraved kosher? Would the ATF try to screw you on it and say it's not plainly visible or whatever the language in the reg is? "Conspicuously placed" is the wording. Last discussion I saw on this mentioned you'd never hand an ATF agent your AR with a mag in it, so it's visible when they look. Not going to say that's right or wrong, it's just the defense presented by some of those that have it done. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 11:41:56 AM EDT
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Just got this back from Ident Dennis |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 2:29:49 PM EDT
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"Conspicuously placed" is the wording. Last discussion I saw on this mentioned you'd never hand an ATF agent your AR with a mag in it, so it's visible when they look. Not going to say that's right or wrong, it's just the defense presented by some of those that have it done. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the lip of the magwell getting engraved kosher? Would the ATF try to screw you on it and say it's not plainly visible or whatever the language in the reg is? "Conspicuously placed" is the wording. Last discussion I saw on this mentioned you'd never hand an ATF agent your AR with a mag in it, so it's visible when they look. Not going to say that's right or wrong, it's just the defense presented by some of those that have it done. That's how I did mine. I really like it inside the magwell. And it's plain as day if you invert the rifle with mag out. |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 2:52:03 PM EDT
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Awesome, that's how I'll get my next one done then.
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