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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:02:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kyoami]
Here is a form version of the NEW 5330.20, Certificate of Compliace.
ETA 15 MAY 2015: You can now download it directly from the ATFE. I'll leave the first link for anyone that needs it. Let me know if you see any issues - like tab order, obscured text, etc. ETA 22 DEC 2012: Replaced with slightly modified version. I made the text slightly smaller, since in a couple tools the fonts rendered ON TOP of the form elements, instead of BETWEEN them. I was never happy with how the checkboxes looked, so I just took them out. ETA 19 APR 2013: using the tip below, forced all of the text boxes to uppercase; also, added form elements for questions about immigration. Still working on the check boxes. ETA 23 APR 2013: thanks to Engineer, checkboxes! ETA 06-AUG-2013: changed trust name field to auto-size font |
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:08:06 AM EDT
[#1]
When did the ATF take down the fillable version?
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Posted: 12/4/2012 11:43:38 AM EDT
[#2]
No idea. Someone pointed out the form had changed, as was no longer fillable.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 7:03:27 PM EDT
[#3]
What actual proof do we have to include with this form?
FYI: I am doing a Trust, but it seems like it depends upon which examiner is reviewing your paperwork as to whether this is needed for a Trust or not...? Thanks KingOfTheBumps |
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Posted: 12/16/2012 7:32:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kyoami]
[#4]
The form is the proof.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 8:55:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 57Strat]
[#5]
Did you create this form to make it fillable or is this the exact form that the BATF offered for download?
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:17:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kyoami]
[#6]
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
Did you create this form to make it fillable or is this the exact form that the BATF offered for download? I edited the form they provided. I used a tool to remove the lock on editing, they I used Adobe Acrobat to edit it and add fillable text blocks. ETA: I want to be explicit here. I used the "mupdf" tool for OS X to remove the protection from the original document. I then added (manually) fields and ordered them. I used to use Acrobat checkboxes to replace the checkboxes in the form, but I discovered they rendered differently in different viewers/editors, so I removed them. My feeling is the minority of users will have wanted those checkboxes. |
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Posted: 12/27/2012 9:23:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Worked perfectly for me today. Thank you very much for taking the time to do this!
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:08:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Are they 'only' accepting this style form now- after a certain date? Is the old form like this going to get kicked back?
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:44:23 PM EDT
[#9]
look at the Note: all the way at the top. that can be interpreted in many ways. i think the ATF made it that way for a reason.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2013 5:46:16 PM EDT
[#10]
it says this at top of page, (All entries Must be in ink, printed in CAPITAL LETTERS, and legible.)
does this mean it will get kicked back if I didnt fill it in with ink and a major question I havent seen answered, well 2 questions, does this have to go with my form1 with a trust and do I write the trust name in the section after my name for corporation, partnership or association, thanks for your help |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:46:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Scott_S]
[#11]
Originally Posted By tjstntbug:
it says this at top of page, (All entries Must be in ink, printed in CAPITAL LETTERS, and legible.) does this mean it will get kicked back if I didnt fill it in with ink and a major question I havent seen answered, well 2 questions, does this have to go with my form1 with a trust and do I write the trust name in the section after my name for corporation, partnership or association, thanks for your help If you're asking if you can use a pencil, I'd say no. If you're asking if a version from a printer will suffice, I'd say yes (that's what I'm doing). Regarding your question about the section for the corporation, I googled "aft 5330.20 trust" and discovered that in section 1 you leave the last, first, and middle initial fields blank and enter your trust name in the corporation field. Section 2 is where you include your name. I sure as hell hope that's how it's done, because my paperwork is going off tomorrow with that info! |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2013 8:06:35 AM EDT
[#12]
although i think typing and printing would be MUCH neater, i would do what the paper work says, if it says only use printed ink in capital letters, i would do that...as far as filing this out with a trust, you are correct, leave the first line blank and put your trust name beside it and then put your full name on the second line that ask for your name
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Posted: 3/24/2013 8:47:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By Scott_S:
Originally Posted By tjstntbug:
it says this at top of page, (All entries Must be in ink, printed in CAPITAL LETTERS, and legible.) does this mean it will get kicked back if I didnt fill it in with ink and a major question I havent seen answered, well 2 questions, does this have to go with my form1 with a trust and do I write the trust name in the section after my name for corporation, partnership or association, thanks for your help If you're asking if you can use a pencil, I'd say no. If you're asking if a version from a printer will suffice, I'd say yes (that's what I'm doing). Regarding your question about the section for the corporation, I googled "aft 5330.20 trust" and discovered that in section 1 you leave the last, first, and middle initial fields blank and enter your trust name in the corporation field. Section 2 is where you include your name. I sure as hell hope that's how it's done, because my paperwork is going off tomorrow with that info! I print this form out with name and that stuff and just hand sign and date. One stamp has already came back and two more are pending. No problems yet. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2013 1:37:07 PM EDT
[#14]
My trust name is long enough that it wraps. And when that happens, it doesn't print correctly.
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Posted: 3/26/2013 2:14:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kyoami]
[#15]
Originally Posted By 58sniper:
My trust name is long enough that it wraps. And when that happens, it doesn't print correctly. I would like to fix this for you. Would you be willing to send me an email ([email protected]) with your trust name so I may send you some different versions of the form to see what works for you? ETA: the fix for this was 58sniper downloaded the current version of the form from my website. If anyone else is running into problems with formatting please let me know and I will bust ass to fix them. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2013 12:16:11 AM EDT
[#16]
I JUST noticed that the form required ALL CAPS. Will my applications get rejected if I didn't do that (I did it for my Trust name....just not may name in the 2nd line for the Trustee)
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Posted: 4/19/2013 12:28:06 AM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By cnas122:
I JUST noticed that the form required ALL CAPS. Will my applications get rejected if I didn't do that (I did it for my Trust name....just not may name in the 2nd line for the Trustee) I couldn't find a way to force this to happen. I will look into it again. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2013 12:30:12 AM EDT
[#18]
Thanks. But I guess my questions is whether I will get all of my apps rejected because I wrote my name, as Trustee, in regular font "i.e. Smith, John, C." instead of "SMITH, JOHN, C."
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USA
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Posted: 4/19/2013 11:00:38 PM EDT
[#19]
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By cnas122:
I JUST noticed that the form required ALL CAPS. Will my applications get rejected if I didn't do that (I did it for my Trust name....just not may name in the 2nd line for the Trustee) I couldn't find a way to force this to happen. I will look into it again. Use a custom format script:
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Posted: 4/19/2013 11:29:44 PM EDT
[#20]
Originally Posted By kiel1:
Originally Posted By RyJones:
Originally Posted By cnas122:
I JUST noticed that the form required ALL CAPS. Will my applications get rejected if I didn't do that (I did it for my Trust name....just not may name in the 2nd line for the Trustee) I couldn't find a way to force this to happen. I will look into it again. Use a custom format script: event.value = event.value.toUpperCase(); Thank you, sir, I have updated the form on the website. |
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Posted: 4/23/2013 11:23:50 AM EDT
[#21]
Engineer provided a version with checkboxes; it's up now!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2013 2:22:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Just caught wind of this thread. Thanks a million! I had a blank one printed out ready to slap on the squadron typewriter until i found this... However i think I'm running into the issue of having too long of a trust name (35 characters + 5 spaces). Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 7/29/2013 3:28:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kyoami]
[#23]
fixed
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Posted: 8/6/2013 11:48:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kyoami]
[#24]
Ladies and gentlemen,
I have uploaded a new version which allows the font in the trust name box to auto-scale. There is a downside: apparently, when you first tab into the field, it sets the font size to like 1 point. After you type something and tab out, it uses a sensible default. I also made the box a little wider and a little shorter. I can get about 60 characters in there before the font starts getting too small. PLEASE try it out and let me know if you have any difficulties with this change. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2014 7:23:33 AM EDT
[#25]
Thanks a lot for taking the time to do this. I'm sending mine out this afternoon.
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Posted: 4/10/2014 8:56:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Page will not print in landscape form, it prints Portrait
any way to rotate it? |
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Posted: 4/10/2014 11:40:14 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Recusance:
Page will not print in landscape form, it prints Portrait any way to rotate it? what are you using to fill it in and print it? |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 5:42:27 PM EDT
[#28]
Works great, thanks!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2014 11:20:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TallPine]
[#29]
The form is now fillable straight from BATFE website.....and it prints in landscape.
Just remember to follow instructions.....everything must be typed in all capital letters. Here's a link to their forms page...this form is toward the bottom of page: BATFE Forms web link |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:27:34 AM EDT
[#30]
LOL what's the purpose of using all CAPS on just this specific form?
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Posted: 8/20/2014 12:59:13 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TallPine:
The form is now fillable straight from BATFE website.....and it prints in landscape. Just remember to follow instructions.....everything must be typed in all capital letters. Here's a link to their forms page...this form is toward the bottom of page: BATFE Forms web link No where in the instructions for filling out this form does it set forth a requirement to type everything in all caps. Where did you get the info that it does? |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:15:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hydguy: No where in the instructions for filling out this form does it set forth a requirement to type everything in all caps. Where did you get the info that it does? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hydguy: Originally Posted By TallPine: The form is now fillable straight from BATFE website.....and it prints in landscape. Just remember to follow instructions.....everything must be typed in all capital letters. Here's a link to their forms page...this form is toward the bottom of page: BATFE Forms web link No where in the instructions for filling out this form does it set forth a requirement to type everything in all caps. Where did you get the info that it does? |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 2:07:59 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaPaul:
The all caps requirement is printed near the top of the first page... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaPaul:
Originally Posted By Hydguy:
Originally Posted By TallPine:
The form is now fillable straight from BATFE website.....and it prints in landscape. Just remember to follow instructions.....everything must be typed in all capital letters. Here's a link to their forms page...this form is toward the bottom of page: BATFE Forms web link No where in the instructions for filling out this form does it set forth a requirement to type everything in all caps. Where did you get the info that it does? My bad... I had in my head the .20 I haven't ever filled out a Cert of Compliance as I use a trust... |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2015 4:49:56 PM EDT
[#34]
General question regarding the form....
What exactly goes in Block 1 and Block 2? I'm selling a SBR to an individual in my state and using a Form 4 (individual to individual-No Trust) Can't figure out what he puts in Block 1 and 2? His name in both? Thanks |
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Posted: 1/12/2015 12:44:23 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AndyMcNabb: General question regarding the form.... What exactly goes in Block 1 and Block 2? I'm selling a SBR to an individual in my state and using a Form 4 (individual to individual-No Trust) Can't figure out what he puts in Block 1 and 2? His name in both? Thanks |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2015 2:08:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Thanks
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USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 7:14:49 AM EDT
[#37]
Okay, maybe I overlooked this answer, but in filing as an individual, whether on F-1 or F-4, you're required to file only ONE copy of your citizenship certification form, correct? Not in duplicate as with the F-1/F-4 applications and the FP cards, right? Thanks.
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Posted: 5/20/2015 8:10:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Yes, just one CoC...
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USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 8:19:41 AM EDT
[#39]
Thanks.
Okay, I'm ready to mail off a F-1 and a F-4. Have made out both checks to BATFE, not DOJ - also correct? Years ago when I did my first F-1, the check was made payable to DOJ, and it was accepted. But I guess that part's been changed? Been out of the NFA game a while. Thanks for your help. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2015 9:33:52 AM EDT
[#40]
The newest version of the Form 1 eliminates the CoC form.
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Posted: 5/20/2015 9:47:15 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Thanks. Okay, I'm ready to mail off a F-1 and a F-4. Have made out both checks to BATFE, not DOJ - also correct? Years ago when I did my first F-1, the check was made payable to DOJ, and it was accepted. But I guess that part's been changed? Been out of the NFA game a while. Thanks for your help. The F1, even the new one with the CoC included, has "DOJ" on page 1 and BATFE in the Remittance portion of the instructions. They'll cash them either way. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/23/2015 10:25:07 AM EDT
[#42]
In question 2, the form requires the name of person, including the middle initial. Pretty straight forward. Except, sometimes, people don't have a middle name (NMN). In my experience, the mil and other govt forms, that can require the person to use "NMN" in that block. I'm not sure if I should leave the "middle initial" block empty or use:
NMN NONE (NO MIDDLE NAME) or, leave the block blank... leaving it blank seems like the kiss/of/death or disapproval. Anyone have some insight into this question? I have two From4s to get mailed-off today, my first NFA/suppressors! |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 12:51:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Form no longer required. The CoC questions have been added to the 41F versions of the NFA Forms. I'm going to unstick this topic and lock it, but will toggle it to not archive, so it'll be in the last page eventually.
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Posted: 7/13/2016 12:52:18 PM EDT
[#44]
See above
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